Blackhole for Bad Bots - proposing this as a default install
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@d19dotca I hear you.. tough but still worth doing the correlation for other insights.
The other thing you can look into is post comment/form filtering. Perhaps add your own question to solve that is accepted either way, but later helps tell you if you're dealing with a bot or human.
From there there may be a few other things to try
@robi Actually you lead me onto a great idea. I went and did some RBL checks on those IP addresses I see sending the forms, and sure enough most of the recent ones are in the Spamhaus XBL list. Now to see if I can somehow get that data into Cloudron as a large listing or something, may be a huge help in reducing spam / bots to the websites.
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@robi Actually you lead me onto a great idea. I went and did some RBL checks on those IP addresses I see sending the forms, and sure enough most of the recent ones are in the Spamhaus XBL list. Now to see if I can somehow get that data into Cloudron as a large listing or something, may be a huge help in reducing spam / bots to the websites.
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Interesting plugin, hadn't seen that before. Looks promising and seems logical too in it's approach.
@marcusquinn - In your experience using this plugin, has this been seen to reduce spam in forms by any chance? That's a problem I've been having lately on a few sites, not a big deal as I don't get too much but maybe a few a week use a form on a website that's just spam. Even using Google reCAPTCHA and honeypot form fields won't do the trick for some reason. When I checked Google reCAPTCHA it saw those as basically perfectly valid, so if I were to up the score limit it may start to have false positives which I don't want to risk for some of my clients.
@d19dotca not had any spam issues TBH, so I think so. Like I say, we have the pro version but not harm in trying the free.
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@robi Actually you lead me onto a great idea. I went and did some RBL checks on those IP addresses I see sending the forms, and sure enough most of the recent ones are in the Spamhaus XBL list. Now to see if I can somehow get that data into Cloudron as a large listing or something, may be a huge help in reducing spam / bots to the websites.
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Interesting plugin, hadn't seen that before. Looks promising and seems logical too in it's approach.
@marcusquinn - In your experience using this plugin, has this been seen to reduce spam in forms by any chance? That's a problem I've been having lately on a few sites, not a big deal as I don't get too much but maybe a few a week use a form on a website that's just spam. Even using Google reCAPTCHA and honeypot form fields won't do the trick for some reason. When I checked Google reCAPTCHA it saw those as basically perfectly valid, so if I were to up the score limit it may start to have false positives which I don't want to risk for some of my clients.
@d19dotca I always install Wordfence which I really like. You could also try https://wordpress.org/plugins/goodbye-captcha/
The idea of bringing in spam IP lists sounds like a good plan too.
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@d19dotca I always install Wordfence which I really like. You could also try https://wordpress.org/plugins/goodbye-captcha/
The idea of bringing in spam IP lists sounds like a good plan too.
@jdaviescoates Looking at WP Bruiser I can't tell what it does.. there's a lot of marketing around it but it also seems like a lot of cloak and dagger.
It would be nice to know how it works.
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@jdaviescoates Looking at WP Bruiser I can't tell what it does.. there's a lot of marketing around it but it also seems like a lot of cloak and dagger.
It would be nice to know how it works.
@robi We use WP Bruiser with a bunch of add-on licences, generally we check everything for performance and code quality before committing to a choice, so it was a while back now but I don't recall any issues since.
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@robi We use WP Bruiser with a bunch of add-on licences, generally we check everything for performance and code quality before committing to a choice, so it was a while back now but I don't recall any issues since.
@marcusquinn that's nice. do you know what it does to stop bots?
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@marcusquinn that's nice. do you know what it does to stop bots?
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@marcusquinn it's ok to say you don't know how it works too
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@marcusquinn it's ok to say you don't know how it works too
@robi I truly don't care how it works. I care about how things work that no-one else has solved
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@jdaviescoates Looking at WP Bruiser I can't tell what it does.. there's a lot of marketing around it but it also seems like a lot of cloak and dagger.
It would be nice to know how it works.
@robi I've no idea how it works either!
