Regular App Packaging Event
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Not use VSC but guess that has something similar?
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@robi both - such inception!
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A couple of VS Code chat options:
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Can we get back to this and start packaging Apps?
Who's in?
Any progress we make will help @staff not have to start from scratch and gets us closer to an app in the App Store.
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@robi I'd be delighted to get any help available to wrap up paperlessng - it seems pretty straight forward (still working through it), leverages many of the features we need across many apps (supervisor, pgsql, redis), fun with sed, sadly no ldap auth... if we can find a good time, i'd be happy to do the event and walk through how I package up to the point I'm stuck haha - stuck just do to time, but perhaps we could crowdsource getting it across the goal line
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@doodlemania2 Roughly how long do you think a session would be? I can try and gather a number of devs, they are on the timezone GMT +3. From experience working across timezones something like 2-3pm GMT tends to cover most from west to east.
We're not here for a long time - but we are here for a good time :)
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@doodlemania2 I'd be happy to (try and) help! I'm on EST so weekday evenings are good typically or weekend mornings. I'm not super proficient with packaging apps but have done a few before so can try and help get you through where you're stuck.
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@marcusquinn I'd say let's start with a one hour session and then we can work async offline to push it through if there is sufficient interest?
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@thetomester13 feel free to jump in on the repo if you'd like to help out - i can do it all, just haven't had the time. Whatever's left when we do the packaging event can be spent going through it from start to finish, talking about best practices (of which I am by no means the authority) and where we want to go from here.
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@doodlemania2 tbh, I was hoping to go through it during the live session, debugging in tandem can be pretty powerful. That being said, if I get a chance between now and then, what hiccups exactly are you coming across? Haven't cloned it and ran it yet, but looks to be a good amount of the way there!
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@thetomester13 you bet - you're welcome of course to wait. No hiccups, just haven't had time to finish it and thought this might be a good one to get into the store.
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Good example of when having Croodle available would be good for polling preferred times & days
We're not here for a long time - but we are here for a good time :)
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@marcusquinn You can use the polls app in nextcloud and chuck out a public link, obviously not quite as simple as croodle, but nice if you are already using nextcloud
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@marcusquinn one app at a time
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Time to rip the bandaid off!
I'll start at 3PM EST this Friday and broadcast for one hour. Might even record it if I can find a button for that. Will send out a link later in the week to this thread on how to join. Will walk through how I package, what I'm currently packaging and how (paperlessng), my current state, and where I'm currently at. Can crowdsource after the fact. -
@doodlemania2 please do record! Would be great to get it up on https://videos.cloudron.io/
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Here's to easily check what time it will be on your timezone:
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20210115T200000&p1=tz_et&p2=tz_cet
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@doodlemania2 love it! I plan on being there and can try and help and chip in where needed!
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@doodlemania2 Great stuff, it's in my calendar and have asked a bunch of devs I work with to join hopefully.
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@marcusquinn said in Regular App Packaging Event:
Good example of when having Croodle available would be good for polling preferred times & days
Doesn't someone already have Croodle installed? I remember seeing it in the screen shots thread as a new unfamiliar icon.
Who wants to ping them to help us use it for this purpose?
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@robi I'm happy to use someone's Croodle, or, I can use my Jitsee meet (or cloudron's)
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@doodlemania2 @robi @murgero has packaged it and has it installed here:
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@jdaviescoates Can yall share? Would like to put it on my CR to play with prior to.
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@doodlemania2 given I shared @murgero's demo install in my previous post, I guess you mean share the repo?
I just found this on git.cloudron.io:
https://git.cloudron.io/murgero/croodle-app
Hope that helps!
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@jdaviescoates oh yes, that's perfect - another plug for the "even before unstable" version of the app store hehe
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@doodlemania2 tried to cloudron build it:
100 13.0M 100 13.0M 0 0 4132k 0 0:00:03 0:00:03 --:--:-- 4132k
Removing intermediate container 6684e9348f66
---> 23d4aadc0809
Step 20/41 : ADD supervisor/ /etc/supervisor/conf.d/
---> 8328f9ec7f6b
Step 21/41 : RUN sed -e 's,^logfile=.*$,logfile=/run/supervisord.log,' -i /etc/supervisor/supervisord.conf
---> Running in 48ee763eaf86
Removing intermediate container 48ee763eaf86
---> d5bddbe7e79c
Step 22/41 : COPY start.sh config.php crontab.template credentials.template /app/code/
COPY failed: stat /var/snap/docker/common/var-lib-docker/tmp/docker-builder262714778/config.php: no such file or directory
child_process.js:669
throw err;
^Error: Command failed: docker build -t doodlemania/croodle:20210112-194232-3228285bb -f Dockerfile /home/derek/croodle-app
at checkExecSyncError (child_process.js:629:11)
at execSync (child_process.js:666:13)
at buildLocal (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/cloudron/src/build-actions.js:180:5)
at Command.build (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/cloudron/src/build-actions.js:327:9)
at Command.listener [as _actionHandler] (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/cloudron/node_modules/commander/index.js:426:31)
at Command._parseCommand (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/cloudron/node_modules/commander/index.js:1002:14)
at Command._dispatchSubcommand (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/cloudron/node_modules/commander/index.js:953:18)
at Command._parseCommand (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/cloudron/node_modules/commander/index.js:970:12)
at Command.parse (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/cloudron/node_modules/commander/index.js:801:10)
at Object.<anonymous> (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/cloudron/bin/cloudron:256:9) -
@doodlemania2 That can sometimes happen if server ran out of disk space.
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@girish only at 24% used space... still looking - wondering if I'm on a different Ubuntu box version if that matters or something.
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doink - config.php isn't in the repo and it is wanting one - will try to drum one up
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@doodlemania2 Everyone okay with Jitsee Meet for this? I can use mine or we can use @girish 's on the main CR if that'd be more appropriate. Not sure if it supports recording though...
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@doodlemania2 If anyone is still interested, I'm game to doing another event. Maybe only loosely related to app packaging, maybe we do an educational series or something about how to use the CR.
As an aside, you are all now welcome to use my BBB/Greenlight I have up and running!
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Shall we continue with these?
The more we do, the more progress we'll make on our fav App Wishlist and getting them to a stable state.
Doing these in multiple regions also multiplies our progress.
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@robi I don't think I have the time or energy to plan or organize one but I will gladly join. Its just been a rough year...
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I can't believe I missed this thread originally. I'm up for participating somehow.
I couldn't make out how the last one was actually hosted and recorded (the one by @doodlemania2 ) - did he use his, or someone else's BBB? Croodle? And where is the finished movie of the packaging, for reference?
A life lived in fear is a life half-lived
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@scooke The first one we did on Peertube and I uploaded it to Cloudron's Peertube instance. Interactivity was via Matrix. The second one we did was done on BBB (someone loaned us a code). Now that I have a BBB for anyone to use, welcome to host you all any time. You can also use my BBB for your Greenlight app (as long as you don't crater it)
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Shall we circle back to this and do more?
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@robi Missed the original discussions, but great idea and would like to watch, in order to learn. Look forward to a next date.
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yes please. and we should bring @jsuto into the loop to have #piler in the app store
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Shall we resume these events?
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Feels like it's time for more of these events!
Who's in?
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@robi How do we choose an app?
A life lived in fear is a life half-lived
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@scooke However you like!
If it's an in-person meetup or online, there is a host who is organizing and setting up the event, maybe recording it, etc.
They can choose an app they want for the event or another person like an app dev can choose one.
Or you make a deal with both to separate duties, while you try the packaging yourself with guidance from others. Fun!
The idea is to choose one we haven't done before, perhaps in a different language than before, so we cover more of the spectrum.
Just choose one, any one in the App Requests will do and move things forward.
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@scooke I vote for Zabbix
totally not because I had no time to finish my development of the app.
https://git.cloudron.io/BrutalBirdie/zabbix-appAlso Zabbix is just awesome
and I would start sharing my Cloudron Templates for Zabbix Monitoring via API.
So everyone could monitor their own Cloudron . . . until it goes offline and then takes Zabbix with it
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@BrutalBirdie said in Regular App Packaging Event:
So everyone could monitor their own Cloudron . . . until it goes offline and then takes Zabbix with it
Nice, we can do better, monitoring ours and each others for a few key services to avoid being notificationless
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I would be up for such a session as well, but currently I don’t have an app that I would like to package for myself.
PS: you guys only have a single cloudron?
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@fbartels How about one or more of the Wireguard Apps?
That's another good topic, show and tell on how you do 3rd party monitoring with flies, haha.
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@robi regarding fly.io: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/7100/free-off-site-monitoring-with-fly-io-and-uptime-kuma/ or with a few more details at https://noted.lol/easy-off-site-monitoring-with-fly-io-and-uptime-kuma/
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@fbartels Thanks for the reminder!
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Penpot would be nice. Or egroupware.
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@robi said in Regular App Packaging Event:
@fbartels How about one or more of the Wireguard Apps?
That's another good topic, show and tell on how you do 3rd party monitoring with flies, haha.
bzzzzOne of those easy to implement Wireguard solutions would be awesome, e.g. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/7571/netbird-foss-noconf-mesh-vpn-using-wireguard-alternative-to-zerotier-tailscale-omniedge-netmaker-etc/
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I am up for it as well
Anytime in Oct works. @luckow (/ @BrutalBirdie) has helped organize these in the past, so I will ask their help again... -
Maybe https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/4355/penpot-design-freedom-for-teams could be interesting to look at. Their backend is unfortunately Java.
I got reminded of Penpot through todays annoucement of the aquisition of Figma through Adobe. I have used Figma in the past and it was an interesting tool, I would like to use it sometime again.
Their Docker source is available at https://github.com/penpot/penpot/tree/develop/docker/images and looks quite clean and nicely structured.
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I'd like to watch and eventually join in the development when I'm more familiar with packaging apps for Cloudron.
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@colonelpanic I think such an event would be the best place to learn packaging.
So feel free to attend and ask as many questions as possible.More appdevs more apps for Cloudron
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robi
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If anyone is willing to package the public reg app I published I think that could be a good "intro" or starting point since its built on top of the LAMP app
Will have an update soon (admin dash for env vars and legal docs)
Regardless I want to learn and look forward to this
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When is the next event?
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@robi afaik not set yet.
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How are we doing?
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