Penpot - Design Freedom for Teams
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I just came across this via the announcement about Taiga 6 (it's by the same people).
"Penpot is the first Open Source design and prototyping platform meant for cross-domain teams. Non dependent on operating systems, Penpot is web based and works with open web standards (SVG). For all and empowered by the community."
https://penpot.app/
https://github.com/penpot/penpotThe alpha 1.0.0 release came out yesterday!
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Honestly, I'm not a Taiga user, but this one may come in handy ! It does look very nice
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Free software Figmalike, I'm starstruck.
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If you're interested in penpot, then you should probably attend their talk at our Open Source Design (cough shameless plug opensourcedesign.net/ cough) devroom at FOSDEM this weekend.
https://fosdem.org/2021/schedule/event/penpot_design_freedom_for_teams/
I reaaaaaaally want to see penpot and presentator on Cloudron.
It would make me very happy, in a world currently full of
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Open source Figma!? Can dreams come true?
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@yusf Yes they can!
The people in Kaleidos are good people. They've really put efforts into Penpot.
They came to our FOSDEM devroom last year explaining how a French company started contributing to penpot (Then called UXBOX) and they got "embarrassed" that someone else was contributing when they weren't!
Here's the talk from last year: https://archive.fosdem.org/2020/schedule/event/uxbox_open_source_online_prototyping_platform/
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Thereβs frigging LDAP support already π€―
Letβs get this packaged!
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1000000000% yes I would definitely use this
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Oh wow - open-source is coming of age!
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Hi!! We are super honoured to be considered a cloudron package!!
You already packaged our other product, Taiga, by the way.Cheers!
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@diacritica Hey @diacritica fantastic work! Great to see you here and I hope you're enjoying Cloudron and the community. Big fan of your work.
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@diacritica Honestly loving Taiga. Excellent work!
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Super helpful too, these guys. I found this on Reddit, poked around on their repository but couldn't find the info for self-hosting, asked about it and just a short while later they replied! https://github.com/penpot/penpot/blob/develop/docs/00-Getting-Started.md
Yes, this does look pretty good. They share tuts here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfT-G7N8lb4&list=PLgcCPfOv5v57cJS0im5FYFwbsu6X5mkNq (they shared the link)
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This is on my radar for packaging, though at the moment I'm holding off until the codebase is more stable, unless consensus build that packaging sooner is a good idea
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@jimcavoli said in Penpot - Design Freedom for Teams:
I'm holding off until the codebase is more stable, unless consensus build that packaging sooner is a good idea
It's now on 1.3 alpha:
https://github.com/penpot/penpot/releases/tag/1.3.0-alphaBut I guess by "more stable" you mean "not alpha"?
Personally I think it'd be fine to package sooner and just publish and unstable. But I would say that as I like new toys and am not a packager myself
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@jdaviescoates Yes, "not alpha" is very much the thing I was talking about
Certainly nothing wrong with getting it packaged unstable and so on while it's still under more active development, but my experience with how much of the critical components of an app that can break the building of a package are much more likely in alpha-land than in beta-land at least. YMMV, and words are made up with different meanings to different teams/people, especially in this one, but that's where my brain's at presently.
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It's clearly more than a typical alpha in terms of stability, but they still have some missing features that are needed to make it useful for all (like custom fonts).
At this point, they encourage users to use their hosted version, so they get better logs, etc. I agree with that logic, and they have for now my trust to do the right thing, based on Taiga experience.
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@ruihildt Yeah the moment I realized it was the same team behind Taiga I was on board. I don't mind a hosted version but I do always try to minimize what I have hosted that isn't on my cloudron dashboard. Makes it easier to keep track of things. Curious to see where this project goes though.
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Hi @jimcavoli is there any movement on packaging Penpot for Cloudron? Is there anything you need, could do with help on?
I'm a UX designer and I use Penpot for my work, and I run my own Cloudron hosted services.
If there's anything I can do to help in the packaging, please let me know.
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I feel that there's more great FOSS webapps being created than there are already on Cloudron.
How do we make sure gems like this get packaged in a reasonable time?
I'm gonna be dead before you get anywhere near half-way through that Wishlist.
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@marcusquinn Cloudron should offer one month free for each app packaged and published then see how many apps you would get
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@adeelahmad nice idea .... although Cloudron Q&A would be swamped with stuff that doesn't work fully
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@timconsidine right, but it could be that apps published by other folks can be released as alpha releases which could be tested and votted for normal releases by other people.
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@adeelahmad said in Penpot - Design Freedom for Teams:
Cloudron should offer one month free for each app packaged
I think the work involved in packaging has significantly more value than $15/30 so potential quality problems aside I'm not sure how much of an incentive that'd be.
Easier to just use referral codes to refer a few people (I've not had to pay anything for my Cloudron for a while because I've referred so many people!
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I will be attempting to package this app this weekend. I will post updates in this thread.
Founder & OpenSource Lover. My Cloudron Apps
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@nj wonderful! This makes me very happy! If you'd like some help testing I'm very happy to.
Btw at our Open Source Design devroom at Fosdem this year Clara from Penpot will be talking about how they gather and implement user feedback.
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I've used this on Caprover, very nice. It'd be great to have it on Cloudron!
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@nj said in Penpot - Design Freedom for Teams:
I will be attempting to package this app this weekend. I will post updates in this thread.
Are we there yet?
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@nj In the spirit of Lunar New Year, ε ζ²ΉοΌ (JiΔyΓ³u! This literally means, "add oil", but in every day use it's shouted as encouragement to competitors, a race, some event needing great effort.)
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@ei8fdb said in Penpot - Design Freedom for Teams:
@nj said in Penpot - Design Freedom for Teams:
I will be attempting to package this app this weekend. I will post updates in this thread.
Are we there yet?
Not yet.
Had to re-package Keycloak to support the latest version that broke everything. I'm into penpot rn.Founder & OpenSource Lover. My Cloudron Apps
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@nj May I humbly ask that env variables to enable and disable both registration and the Demo User be included please? I've been trying this out on Caprover, and this is an ongoing request on that platform. So far we can turn off Registration, but the Demo User option remains. Yikes. Thank you again!
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@nj Great news. That was an attempt at a joke. I'll be very grateful with whatever progress you make.
If I can help please let me know.
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I would absolutly love to see penpot here. It's going to be the perfect figma alternative.
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would be a wonderful addition to Taiga, everything required for development in one package!
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@nj Did you ever get any further with this?
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Has anyone made any progress on Penpot? I'm still happy to help out any way I can.
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Since the news on Adobe purchasing Figma, there seems to have been a significant movement of people looking for an alternative, and sub-set looking for an open-source alternative:
Getting Penpot into the Cloudron App Store would be a big win right now.
We're not here for a long time - but we are here for a good time :)
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@marcusquinn I agree. For many users Penpot seems like an excellent alternative to Figma, particularly because Adobe purchased Figma back in September 2022.
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@marcusquinn At the moment I use Caprover because it already has Penpot. If I could move my work to my Cloudron that would be super.
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@scooke I see. I read that CapRover hasn't been updated much lately. Are you looking to move away from CapRover because it hasn't been updated much lately?
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@yeku I use it mostly for a few apps that Cloudron doesn't have, but also because the server my Cloudron is on wouldn't be enough to host all the apps I like to use. So I'm spreading things out.
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@scooke Oh. I see. That makes sense.
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Penpot is packaged and ready - https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/penpot-app . But, it requires redis 6. So, we are working on getting 7.4 out asap (new discourse also needs the updated redis).
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@girish Whoa ! That's huge !
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@girish absolutly fantastic... for almaost any development a vaiable alternative to figma...you guys are awsome...
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@girish I woke up this morning, as though from a feverish dream, thinking to myself, "Did I really read something about penpot last night on the forum?" I went to work, and now, late, just had time to enter "penpot" in the forum search, and discover that it was not just a dream.
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@girish This is great news. For Adobe purchased Figma, lot's of people would like to jump on the Penpot train.
