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    • jdaviescoates
      jdaviescoates last edited by

      I just came across this via the announcement about Taiga 6 (it's by the same people).

      "Penpot is the first Open Source design and prototyping platform meant for cross-domain teams. Non dependent on operating systems, Penpot is web based and works with open web standards (SVG). For all and empowered by the community."

      https://penpot.app/
      https://github.com/penpot/penpot

      The alpha 1.0.0 release came out yesterday!

      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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      • mehdi
        mehdi App Dev last edited by

        Honestly, I'm not a Taiga user, but this one may come in handy ! It does look very nice πŸ™‚

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        • ruihildt
          ruihildt @mehdi last edited by

          Free software Figmalike, I'm starstruck.

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          • ei8fdb
            ei8fdb @ruihildt last edited by

            If you're interested in penpot, then you should probably attend their talk at our Open Source Design (cough shameless plug opensourcedesign.net/ cough) devroom at FOSDEM this weekend.

            https://fosdem.org/2021/schedule/event/penpot_design_freedom_for_teams/

            I reaaaaaaally want to see penpot and presentator on Cloudron.

            It would make me very happy, in a world currently full of πŸ’©.

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            • yusf
              yusf last edited by

              Open source Figma!? Can dreams come true? 🌈 ✨

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              • ei8fdb
                ei8fdb @yusf last edited by

                @yusf Yes they can!

                The people in Kaleidos are good people. They've really put efforts into Penpot.

                They came to our FOSDEM devroom last year explaining how a French company started contributing to penpot (Then called UXBOX) and they got "embarrassed" that someone else was contributing when they weren't!

                Here's the talk from last year: https://archive.fosdem.org/2020/schedule/event/uxbox_open_source_online_prototyping_platform/

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                • yusf
                  yusf last edited by

                  There’s frigging LDAP support already 🀯

                  Let’s get this packaged!

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                  • ?
                    A Former User last edited by

                    1000000000% yes I would definitely use this

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                    • marcusquinn
                      marcusquinn last edited by

                      Oh wow - open-source is coming of age! 😍

                      We're not here for a long time - but we are here for a good time :)
                      Jersey/UK
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                      Personal & Software Tips: https://marcusquinn.com

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                      • diacritica
                        diacritica last edited by

                        Hi!! We are super honoured to be considered a cloudron package!!
                        You already packaged our other product, Taiga, by the way.

                        Cheers!

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                        • marcusquinn
                          marcusquinn @diacritica last edited by marcusquinn

                          @diacritica Hey @diacritica fantastic work! Great to see you here and I hope you're enjoying Cloudron and the community. Big fan of your work.

                          We're not here for a long time - but we are here for a good time :)
                          Jersey/UK
                          Work & Ecommerce Advice: https://brandlight.org
                          Personal & Software Tips: https://marcusquinn.com

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                            A Former User @diacritica last edited by

                            @diacritica Honestly loving Taiga. Excellent work! πŸ™‚

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                            • scooke
                              scooke last edited by scooke

                              Super helpful too, these guys. I found this on Reddit, poked around on their repository but couldn't find the info for self-hosting, asked about it and just a short while later they replied! https://github.com/penpot/penpot/blob/develop/docs/00-Getting-Started.md

                              Yes, this does look pretty good. They share tuts here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfT-G7N8lb4&list=PLgcCPfOv5v57cJS0im5FYFwbsu6X5mkNq (they shared the link)

                              A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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                              • jimcavoli
                                jimcavoli App Dev last edited by

                                This is on my radar for packaging, though at the moment I'm holding off until the codebase is more stable, unless consensus build that packaging sooner is a good idea

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                                • jdaviescoates
                                  jdaviescoates @jimcavoli last edited by

                                  @jimcavoli said in Penpot - Design Freedom for Teams:

                                  I'm holding off until the codebase is more stable, unless consensus build that packaging sooner is a good idea

                                  It's now on 1.3 alpha:
                                  https://github.com/penpot/penpot/releases/tag/1.3.0-alpha

                                  But I guess by "more stable" you mean "not alpha"? πŸ™‚

                                  Personally I think it'd be fine to package sooner and just publish and unstable. But I would say that as I like new toys and am not a packager myself πŸ˜›

                                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                  • jimcavoli
                                    jimcavoli App Dev @jdaviescoates last edited by

                                    @jdaviescoates Yes, "not alpha" is very much the thing I was talking about πŸ™‚

                                    Certainly nothing wrong with getting it packaged unstable and so on while it's still under more active development, but my experience with how much of the critical components of an app that can break the building of a package are much more likely in alpha-land than in beta-land at least. YMMV, and words are made up with different meanings to different teams/people, especially in this one, but that's where my brain's at presently.

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                                    • ruihildt
                                      ruihildt @jimcavoli last edited by

                                      It's clearly more than a typical alpha in terms of stability, but they still have some missing features that are needed to make it useful for all (like custom fonts).

                                      At this point, they encourage users to use their hosted version, so they get better logs, etc. I agree with that logic, and they have for now my trust to do the right thing, based on Taiga experience.

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                                      • ?
                                        A Former User @ruihildt last edited by A Former User

                                        @ruihildt Yeah the moment I realized it was the same team behind Taiga I was on board. I don't mind a hosted version but I do always try to minimize what I have hosted that isn't on my cloudron dashboard. Makes it easier to keep track of things. Curious to see where this project goes though.

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                                        • ei8fdb
                                          ei8fdb @jimcavoli last edited by ei8fdb

                                          Hi @jimcavoli is there any movement on packaging Penpot for Cloudron? Is there anything you need, could do with help on?

                                          I'm a UX designer and I use Penpot for my work, and I run my own Cloudron hosted services.

                                          If there's anything I can do to help in the packaging, please let me know.

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                                          • marcusquinn
                                            marcusquinn last edited by

                                            I feel that there's more great FOSS webapps being created than there are already on Cloudron.

                                            How do we make sure gems like this get packaged in a reasonable time?

                                            I'm gonna be dead before you get anywhere near half-way through that Wishlist.

                                            We're not here for a long time - but we are here for a good time :)
                                            Jersey/UK
                                            Work & Ecommerce Advice: https://brandlight.org
                                            Personal & Software Tips: https://marcusquinn.com

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                                              adeelahmad @marcusquinn last edited by

                                              @marcusquinn Cloudron should offer one month free for each app packaged and published then see how many apps you would get 😊

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                                              • timconsidine
                                                timconsidine App Dev @adeelahmad last edited by

                                                @adeelahmad nice idea .... although Cloudron Q&A would be swamped with stuff that doesn't work fully

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                                                  adeelahmad @timconsidine last edited by

                                                  @timconsidine right, but it could be that apps published by other folks can be released as alpha releases which could be tested and votted for normal releases by other people.

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                                                  • jdaviescoates
                                                    jdaviescoates @adeelahmad last edited by

                                                    @adeelahmad said in Penpot - Design Freedom for Teams:

                                                    Cloudron should offer one month free for each app packaged

                                                    I think the work involved in packaging has significantly more value than $15/30 so potential quality problems aside I'm not sure how much of an incentive that'd be.

                                                    Easier to just use referral codes to refer a few people (I've not had to pay anything for my Cloudron for a while because I've referred so many people! πŸ™‚ )

                                                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                                    • nj
                                                      nj last edited by

                                                      I will be attempting to package this app this weekend. I will post updates in this thread.

                                                      Founder & OpenSource Lover. My Cloudron Apps

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                                                      • ei8fdb
                                                        ei8fdb @nj last edited by

                                                        @nj wonderful! This makes me very happy! If you'd like some help testing I'm very happy to.

                                                        Btw at our Open Source Design devroom at Fosdem this year Clara from Penpot will be talking about how they gather and implement user feedback.

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                                                        • scooke
                                                          scooke last edited by

                                                          I've used this on Caprover, very nice. It'd be great to have it on Cloudron!

                                                          A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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                                                          • ei8fdb
                                                            ei8fdb @nj last edited by

                                                            @nj said in Penpot - Design Freedom for Teams:

                                                            I will be attempting to package this app this weekend. I will post updates in this thread.

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                                                            Are we there yet? πŸ˜„

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                                                            • scooke
                                                              scooke @nj last edited by

                                                              @nj In the spirit of Lunar New Year, 加油! (Jiāyóu! This literally means, "add oil", but in every day use it's shouted as encouragement to competitors, a race, some event needing great effort.)

                                                              A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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                                                              • nj
                                                                nj @ei8fdb last edited by

                                                                @ei8fdb said in Penpot - Design Freedom for Teams:

                                                                @nj said in Penpot - Design Freedom for Teams:

                                                                I will be attempting to package this app this weekend. I will post updates in this thread.

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                                                                Are we there yet? πŸ˜„

                                                                Not yet. πŸ™‚ Had to re-package Keycloak to support the latest version that broke everything. I'm into penpot rn.

                                                                Founder & OpenSource Lover. My Cloudron Apps

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                                                                • scooke
                                                                  scooke @nj last edited by

                                                                  @nj May I humbly ask that env variables to enable and disable both registration and the Demo User be included please? I've been trying this out on Caprover, and this is an ongoing request on that platform. So far we can turn off Registration, but the Demo User option remains. Yikes. Thank you again!

                                                                  A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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                                                                  • ei8fdb
                                                                    ei8fdb @nj last edited by

                                                                    @nj Great news. That was an attempt at a joke. I'll be very grateful with whatever progress you make.

                                                                    If I can help please let me know.

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                                                                      m-si last edited by

                                                                      I would absolutly love to see penpot here. It's going to be the perfect figma alternative.
                                                                      +1

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                                                                      • potemkin_ai
                                                                        potemkin_ai last edited by

                                                                        would be a wonderful addition to Taiga, everything required for development in one package!

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                                                                        • marcusquinn
                                                                          marcusquinn last edited by

                                                                          @nj Did you ever get any further with this?

                                                                          We're not here for a long time - but we are here for a good time :)
                                                                          Jersey/UK
                                                                          Work & Ecommerce Advice: https://brandlight.org
                                                                          Personal & Software Tips: https://marcusquinn.com

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                                                                          • ei8fdb
                                                                            ei8fdb last edited by

                                                                            Has anyone made any progress on Penpot? I'm still happy to help out any way I can.

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                                                                            • marcusquinn
                                                                              marcusquinn last edited by marcusquinn

                                                                              Since the news on Adobe purchasing Figma, there seems to have been a significant movement of people looking for an alternative, and sub-set looking for an open-source alternative:

                                                                              • https://twitter.com/penpotapp

                                                                              Getting Penpot into the Cloudron App Store would be a big win right now.

                                                                              We're not here for a long time - but we are here for a good time :)
                                                                              Jersey/UK
                                                                              Work & Ecommerce Advice: https://brandlight.org
                                                                              Personal & Software Tips: https://marcusquinn.com

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                                                                                yeku @marcusquinn last edited by

                                                                                @marcusquinn I agree. For many users Penpot seems like an excellent alternative to Figma, particularly because Adobe purchased Figma back in September 2022.

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                                                                                • scooke
                                                                                  scooke @marcusquinn last edited by

                                                                                  @marcusquinn At the moment I use Caprover because it already has Penpot. If I could move my work to my Cloudron that would be super.

                                                                                  A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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                                                                                    yeku @scooke last edited by yeku

                                                                                    @scooke I see. I read that CapRover hasn't been updated much lately. Are you looking to move away from CapRover because it hasn't been updated much lately?

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                                                                                    • scooke
                                                                                      scooke @yeku last edited by

                                                                                      @yeku I use it mostly for a few apps that Cloudron doesn't have, but also because the server my Cloudron is on wouldn't be enough to host all the apps I like to use. So I'm spreading things out.

                                                                                      A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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                                                                                        yeku @scooke last edited by

                                                                                        @scooke Oh. I see. That makes sense.

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                                                                                        • girish
                                                                                          girish Staff last edited by

                                                                                          Penpot is packaged and ready - https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/penpot-app . But, it requires redis 6. So, we are working on getting 7.4 out asap (new discourse also needs the updated redis).

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                                                                                          • timconsidine
                                                                                            timconsidine App Dev @girish last edited by

                                                                                            @girish Whoa ! That's huge ! 🍾
                                                                                            Well done, and look forward to it.

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                                                                                              m-si @girish last edited by

                                                                                              @girish absolutly fantastic... for almaost any development a vaiable alternative to figma...you guys are awsome...

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                                                                                              • scooke
                                                                                                scooke @girish last edited by

                                                                                                @girish I woke up this morning, as though from a feverish dream, thinking to myself, "Did I really read something about penpot last night on the forum?" I went to work, and now, late, just had time to enter "penpot" in the forum search, and discover that it was not just a dream.
                                                                                                Can't wait!

                                                                                                A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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                                                                                                  rstockm @girish last edited by

                                                                                                  @girish This is great news. For Adobe purchased Figma, lot's of people would like to jump on the Penpot train.

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