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Penpot - Design Freedom for Teams

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    Open source Figma!? Can dreams come true? 🌈 ✨

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      Open source Figma!? Can dreams come true? 🌈 ✨

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      @yusf Yes they can!

      The people in Kaleidos are good people. They've really put efforts into Penpot.

      They came to our FOSDEM devroom last year explaining how a French company started contributing to penpot (Then called UXBOX) and they got "embarrassed" that someone else was contributing when they weren't!

      Here's the talk from last year: https://archive.fosdem.org/2020/schedule/event/uxbox_open_source_online_prototyping_platform/

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        There’s frigging LDAP support already 🀯

        Let’s get this packaged!

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          1000000000% yes I would definitely use this

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            Oh wow - open-source is coming of age! 😍

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            Life https://marcusquinn.com

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              Hi!! We are super honoured to be considered a cloudron package!!
              You already packaged our other product, Taiga, by the way.

              Cheers!

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              • diacriticaD diacritica

                Hi!! We are super honoured to be considered a cloudron package!!
                You already packaged our other product, Taiga, by the way.

                Cheers!

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                @diacritica Hey @diacritica fantastic work! Great to see you here and I hope you're enjoying Cloudron and the community. Big fan of your work.

                Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                Development https://brandlight.org
                Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                • diacriticaD diacritica

                  Hi!! We are super honoured to be considered a cloudron package!!
                  You already packaged our other product, Taiga, by the way.

                  Cheers!

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                  @diacritica Honestly loving Taiga. Excellent work! πŸ™‚

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                    Super helpful too, these guys. I found this on Reddit, poked around on their repository but couldn't find the info for self-hosting, asked about it and just a short while later they replied! https://github.com/penpot/penpot/blob/develop/docs/00-Getting-Started.md

                    Yes, this does look pretty good. They share tuts here:

                    (they shared the link)

                    A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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                      This is on my radar for packaging, though at the moment I'm holding off until the codebase is more stable, unless consensus build that packaging sooner is a good idea

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                      • jimcavoliJ jimcavoli

                        This is on my radar for packaging, though at the moment I'm holding off until the codebase is more stable, unless consensus build that packaging sooner is a good idea

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                        @jimcavoli said in Penpot - Design Freedom for Teams:

                        I'm holding off until the codebase is more stable, unless consensus build that packaging sooner is a good idea

                        It's now on 1.3 alpha:
                        https://github.com/penpot/penpot/releases/tag/1.3.0-alpha

                        But I guess by "more stable" you mean "not alpha"? πŸ™‚

                        Personally I think it'd be fine to package sooner and just publish and unstable. But I would say that as I like new toys and am not a packager myself πŸ˜›

                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                        • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                          @jimcavoli said in Penpot - Design Freedom for Teams:

                          I'm holding off until the codebase is more stable, unless consensus build that packaging sooner is a good idea

                          It's now on 1.3 alpha:
                          https://github.com/penpot/penpot/releases/tag/1.3.0-alpha

                          But I guess by "more stable" you mean "not alpha"? πŸ™‚

                          Personally I think it'd be fine to package sooner and just publish and unstable. But I would say that as I like new toys and am not a packager myself πŸ˜›

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                          @jdaviescoates Yes, "not alpha" is very much the thing I was talking about πŸ™‚

                          Certainly nothing wrong with getting it packaged unstable and so on while it's still under more active development, but my experience with how much of the critical components of an app that can break the building of a package are much more likely in alpha-land than in beta-land at least. YMMV, and words are made up with different meanings to different teams/people, especially in this one, but that's where my brain's at presently.

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                          • jimcavoliJ jimcavoli

                            @jdaviescoates Yes, "not alpha" is very much the thing I was talking about πŸ™‚

                            Certainly nothing wrong with getting it packaged unstable and so on while it's still under more active development, but my experience with how much of the critical components of an app that can break the building of a package are much more likely in alpha-land than in beta-land at least. YMMV, and words are made up with different meanings to different teams/people, especially in this one, but that's where my brain's at presently.

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                            It's clearly more than a typical alpha in terms of stability, but they still have some missing features that are needed to make it useful for all (like custom fonts).

                            At this point, they encourage users to use their hosted version, so they get better logs, etc. I agree with that logic, and they have for now my trust to do the right thing, based on Taiga experience.

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                              It's clearly more than a typical alpha in terms of stability, but they still have some missing features that are needed to make it useful for all (like custom fonts).

                              At this point, they encourage users to use their hosted version, so they get better logs, etc. I agree with that logic, and they have for now my trust to do the right thing, based on Taiga experience.

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                              @ruihildt Yeah the moment I realized it was the same team behind Taiga I was on board. I don't mind a hosted version but I do always try to minimize what I have hosted that isn't on my cloudron dashboard. Makes it easier to keep track of things. Curious to see where this project goes though.

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                              • jimcavoliJ jimcavoli

                                @jdaviescoates Yes, "not alpha" is very much the thing I was talking about πŸ™‚

                                Certainly nothing wrong with getting it packaged unstable and so on while it's still under more active development, but my experience with how much of the critical components of an app that can break the building of a package are much more likely in alpha-land than in beta-land at least. YMMV, and words are made up with different meanings to different teams/people, especially in this one, but that's where my brain's at presently.

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                                Hi @jimcavoli is there any movement on packaging Penpot for Cloudron? Is there anything you need, could do with help on?

                                I'm a UX designer and I use Penpot for my work, and I run my own Cloudron hosted services.

                                If there's anything I can do to help in the packaging, please let me know.

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                                  I feel that there's more great FOSS webapps being created than there are already on Cloudron.

                                  How do we make sure gems like this get packaged in a reasonable time?

                                  I'm gonna be dead before you get anywhere near half-way through that Wishlist.

                                  Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                                  Development https://brandlight.org
                                  Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                                    I feel that there's more great FOSS webapps being created than there are already on Cloudron.

                                    How do we make sure gems like this get packaged in a reasonable time?

                                    I'm gonna be dead before you get anywhere near half-way through that Wishlist.

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                                    @marcusquinn Cloudron should offer one month free for each app packaged and published then see how many apps you would get 😊

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                                      @marcusquinn Cloudron should offer one month free for each app packaged and published then see how many apps you would get 😊

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                                      @adeelahmad nice idea .... although Cloudron Q&A would be swamped with stuff that doesn't work fully

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                                        @adeelahmad nice idea .... although Cloudron Q&A would be swamped with stuff that doesn't work fully

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                                        @timconsidine right, but it could be that apps published by other folks can be released as alpha releases which could be tested and votted for normal releases by other people.

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                                          @marcusquinn Cloudron should offer one month free for each app packaged and published then see how many apps you would get 😊

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                                          @adeelahmad said in Penpot - Design Freedom for Teams:

                                          Cloudron should offer one month free for each app packaged

                                          I think the work involved in packaging has significantly more value than $15/30 so potential quality problems aside I'm not sure how much of an incentive that'd be.

                                          Easier to just use referral codes to refer a few people (I've not had to pay anything for my Cloudron for a while because I've referred so many people! πŸ™‚ )

                                          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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