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    • rosano
      rosano last edited by

      Hi everyone, I just launched https://easyindie.app to promote the idea of self-hosting via ‘one-click install’ systems like Cloudron, Caprover, and Yunohost. Any feedback is welcome and the code is open-source.

      Hope this encourages more people to own their data.

      https://easyindie.app

      https://github.com/0dataapp/easyindie

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      • nebulon
        nebulon Staff @rosano last edited by

        Welcome @rosano I've only yesterday come across your page, always great to have collections for promoting self-hosting!

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        • timconsidine
          timconsidine App Dev @rosano last edited by

          @rosano Great idea and initiative, well done.
          Not a fan personally of mobile width pages on a desktop, but each to their own.
          It's going to take a while to look through the list !

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          • girish
            girish Staff last edited by

            Very nice. Many of the app icons are not loading, I guess this is because it's a WIP?

            Also, for each app you can also deep link to https://www.cloudron.io/store/index.html if you want to. For example, ackee is https://www.cloudron.io/store/com.electerious.ackee.html etc. Also, if you like you can also show other related links in each app page like in https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/ackee/#about . If you like you can steal those links from our doc repo - https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/docs/-/tree/master/knowledgebase/docs/apps

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            • rosano
              rosano @nebulon last edited by

              @nebulon Thanks for the welcome! Would you mind messaging me on how to upload my avatar? I wasn't able to figure it out 🙂 Seems like this is a different forum than discourse…

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              • rosano
                rosano @timconsidine last edited by

                @timconsidine thanks! it's actually 'comfortable text reading width' which i carry over from blogging and writing, but i might want to rethink this as it's not text-based ;).

                i need to also have other options for going through the list, i never thought people would 'go through' it, assumed that people search for what they know already.

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                • rosano
                  rosano @girish last edited by

                  @girish the icons are a bit shaky, i'm trying to fetch them and serve them from my domain, but i had deployment issues and wasn't able to fix it in time. hey it works on localhost 🤷

                  hmm the deep linking is a good idea, i was more focused on making sure people install because i think the cloudron interface is excellent and will carry the rest of the way. thanks for the info will make a note for later.

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                  • rosano
                    rosano last edited by

                    thanks to everyone for the feedback, great to hear you are receptive to the idea.

                    i'm personally super excited to get cloudron working for myself, it feels like the slickest and most robust option. i had it working but i need to save up so i can purchase the full version. congrats to this community on creating something so awesome and empowering with a sustainable business model too, y'all are trailblazers.

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                    • humptydumpty
                      humptydumpty @rosano last edited by

                      @rosano I like going through lists because that's how I discover new awesome apps!

                      Here's how to edit your profile pic: Top right icon --> Edit Profile --> Change Picture

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                      • timconsidine
                        timconsidine App Dev @rosano last edited by

                        @rosano Fair point.
                        I may be a little strange, but there are so many great apps that I have not heard of before, and would never hear about without directory like yours, so looking through lists is great education for me.

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                        • timconsidine
                          timconsidine App Dev @rosano last edited by

                          @rosano I tried yunohost before and Sandstorm(??) but Cloudron is far superior and more stable (in my opinion/experience).
                          I will take another look at Yunohost if I see something interesting there which is not on Cloudron.

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                          • jdaviescoates
                            jdaviescoates @timconsidine last edited by

                            @timconsidine said in Easy Indie App—Run your own X in a few clicks:

                            I will take another look at Yunohost if I see something interesting there which is not on Cloudron.

                            Please create relevant App Wishlist posts here too 🙂

                            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                            • timconsidine
                              timconsidine App Dev @jdaviescoates last edited by

                              @jdaviescoates 👍

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                              • scooke
                                scooke @rosano last edited by

                                @rosano Yes, thank you for the list. Good work! I personally never ever install something from a page that isn't within the environment it needs to be within (the exception I suppose are Heroku links). Following one of those direcly to some install page isn't what I want, partly because I most likely don't have an account there yet and haven't decided if I want one. BUT, the info about that app, and the service (cloudron, or yunohost, etc) are super helpful and interesting. So deeplinking as @girish suggested is, for me, loads more useful. And like another comment you made, I totally browse and look for different apps, inspiration, environments. I think many people would be browsing because, despite robust communities like Cloudron's here, the idea of self-hosting is still catching on.

                                A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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                                • scooke
                                  scooke @timconsidine last edited by

                                  @timconsidine There are actually quite alot on Yunohost that aren't here. I've tried Yunohost 3 times over the years and eventually, sooner rather than later, some unsolvable glitch happens and the whole thing dies. You are right, Cloudron is just worlds ahead in terms of function, ease, stability. That said, I am trying it out, once more, to see what Plume, Write.Freely, Photonix, PhotoView, and LanguageTool Server are like. I don't know if they are on Cloudron's App Wishlist yet.

                                  A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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                                  • timconsidine
                                    timconsidine App Dev @scooke last edited by

                                    @scooke I will check them out too. I looked at Plume previously and liked it, but stopped for some reason I can't recall.

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                                    • rosano
                                      rosano @humptydumpty last edited by

                                      @humptydumpty thanks for the tip, strange that the button wasn't there before, maybe it's not enabled for new accounts or something.

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                                      • rosano
                                        rosano last edited by

                                        thanks again for all your great feedback. i have truly underestimated how important it is to browse via list and will make sure to add that next and let you all know. i actually had that working before and took it out! 🤦

                                        re: the discussion about comparing platforms, i thought i had built in a filter for platforms but apparently i didn't, so i quickly deployed that now. you can search for 'yunohost' for example and see the apps that are there. might be easier to spot which ones aren't yet on cloudron. and of course there is the export of project data https://easyindie.app/projects.json for those who like to wrangle json.

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                                        • timconsidine
                                          timconsidine App Dev @timconsidine last edited by

                                          So I just went through the Yunohost list of apps
                                          From their site, not @rosano digest
                                          I clicked on 20+ links to view docs and code for various apps
                                          Over half resulted in 404 errors
                                          This just sums up Yunohost for me.
                                          Frankly, even though I would love to love it, it suggests a hobbyist project, and doesn't give me confidence to use yunohost.
                                          I would rather invest the time in learning how to package my own apps for Cloudron.
                                          I don't like to be negative or rude, but Yunohost gives self-hosting a bad name. IMHO of course.

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                                          • rosano
                                            rosano last edited by

                                            The number one feedback from various communities is to show the apps as a list instead of icons, made a small update for this today. Hope it's easier to navigate:

                                            https://easyindie.app/glance

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                                            • girish
                                              girish Staff last edited by

                                              Just saw another list today - https://www.btw.so/open-source-alternatives

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                                              • rosano
                                                rosano @girish last edited by

                                                @girish Interesting, there seem to be many 'alternative' lists like this:

                                                • Apps – TROM-Jaro https://www.tromjaro.com/apps/
                                                • Google Alternatives 2020: Best Privacy Friendly Alternatives https://justprivacy.org/google-alternatives/
                                                • Ethical Alternatives & Resources - ethical.net https://ethical.net/resources/
                                                • switching.software | Ethical, easy-to-use and privacy-conscious alternatives to well-known software https://switching.software/
                                                • degoogle | A huge list of alternatives to Google products. Privacy tips, tricks, and links. https://degoogle.jmoore.dev/

                                                but BTW focuses on open-source. None seem to focus on 'easy to install' though…

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                                                • micmc
                                                  micmc @girish last edited by

                                                  @girish said in Easy Indie App—Run your own X in a few clicks:

                                                  Just saw another list today - https://www.btw.so/open-source-alternatives

                                                  Nice find indeed 🙂


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                                                  • jdaviescoates
                                                    jdaviescoates @rosano last edited by

                                                    @rosano said in Easy Indie App—Run your own X in a few clicks:

                                                    @girish Interesting, there seem to be many 'alternative' lists like this:

                                                    • Apps – TROM-Jaro https://www.tromjaro.com/apps/
                                                    • Google Alternatives 2020: Best Privacy Friendly Alternatives https://justprivacy.org/google-alternatives/
                                                    • Ethical Alternatives & Resources - ethical.net https://ethical.net/resources/
                                                    • switching.software | Ethical, easy-to-use and privacy-conscious alternatives to well-known software https://switching.software/
                                                    • degoogle | A huge list of alternatives to Google products. Privacy tips, tricks, and links. https://degoogle.jmoore.dev/

                                                    but BTW focuses on open-source. None seem to focus on 'easy to install' though…

                                                    https://alternativeto.net/ is handy too.

                                                    I also find https://selfhosted.libhunt.com/ useful for finding and comparing apps.

                                                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                                    • jdaviescoates
                                                      jdaviescoates @micmc last edited by

                                                      @micmc said in Easy Indie App—Run your own X in a few clicks:

                                                      @girish said in Easy Indie App—Run your own X in a few clicks:

                                                      Just saw another list today - https://www.btw.so/open-source-alternatives

                                                      Nice find indeed 🙂

                                                      Yeah btw.so itself looks/ sounds like it'll be a useful app to add to the wishlist once it's ready. I just asked and they said:

                                                      Yes, it will be possible to self-host btw and the code will available soon (we're pre-launch)!

                                                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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