icedrive as backup solution?
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Looks interesting, nice to see a UK offering in this area.
For price-comparison, worth a look at iDrive e2: https://www.idrive.com/e2/pricing
Usual cautions on any race-to-the-bottom pricing models with startups. Who's "lifetime"? Yours or theirs?
@marcusquinn said in icedrive as backup solution?:
Usual cautions on any race-to-the-bottom pricing models with startups. Who's "lifetime"? Yours or theirs?
Hahah! Great one!
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@RazielKanos said in icedrive as backup solution?:
150 GB just cost a bit more than 20€ a year
Contabo Object Storage is a similar price per GB, but the minimum you can order is 250GB (which is £2.79+VAT per month, so £40.20/yr including VAT)
Not S3 Object Storage (but then neither is icedrive, and as @girish and @robi have pointed out icedrive doesn't appear to be an option for servers, at least not yet), but pretty hard to beat Hetzner's Storage Box pricing too: €3.84 including VAT per month for 1TB. I've got a 5TB one for all my backups which are currently €13.08/mo
Scaleway Object Storage Buckets also pretty cheap. 150GB is €2.19/mo (not sure if that is including VAT or not). You can even get 75GB for free if you opt for Single-AZ (Availability Zones) instead of Multi-AZ (whatever that means! Something to do better data replication, I think, but S3 is all new to me so I've no idea really)
@jdaviescoates About "Hetzner's Storage Box", it seems they are limiting transfer bandwidth in night time: do you have any feedback on this?
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@jdaviescoates About "Hetzner's Storage Box", it seems they are limiting transfer bandwidth in night time: do you have any feedback on this?
@p44 said in icedrive as backup solution?:
@jdaviescoates About "Hetzner's Storage Box", it seems they are limiting transfer bandwidth in night time: do you have any feedback on this?
No. How/ where have you seen that?
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@p44 said in icedrive as backup solution?:
@jdaviescoates About "Hetzner's Storage Box", it seems they are limiting transfer bandwidth in night time: do you have any feedback on this?
No. How/ where have you seen that?
@jdaviescoates About 43Gb to backup, in day day time it takes 55 minutes, night time 2 hours... very strange...
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@jdaviescoates About 43Gb to backup, in day day time it takes 55 minutes, night time 2 hours... very strange...
@p44 said in icedrive as backup solution?:
@jdaviescoates About 43Gb to backup, in day day time it takes 55 minutes, night time 2 hours... very strange...
What time zone? Is your night time the same as Hetzner's night time?
I think my backups take ages too, but they happen when I'm asleep so I don't really notice and it doesn't bother me.
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@p44 said in icedrive as backup solution?:
@jdaviescoates About 43Gb to backup, in day day time it takes 55 minutes, night time 2 hours... very strange...
What time zone? Is your night time the same as Hetzner's night time?
I think my backups take ages too, but they happen when I'm asleep so I don't really notice and it doesn't bother me.
@jdaviescoates Same timezone of Hetzner ... very strange. It seems they're limiting bandwidth in night time.
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@jdaviescoates Same timezone of Hetzner ... very strange. It seems they're limiting bandwidth in night time.
@p44 said in icedrive as backup solution?:
@jdaviescoates Same timezone of Hetzner ... very strange. It seems they're limiting bandwidth in night time.
Have you asked them about it?
Perhaps it just that everyone everywhere is backing up stuff to Hetzner Storage Boxes at night and their networks are actually much busier at night?
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@p44 said in icedrive as backup solution?:
@jdaviescoates Same timezone of Hetzner ... very strange. It seems they're limiting bandwidth in night time.
Have you asked them about it?
Perhaps it just that everyone everywhere is backing up stuff to Hetzner Storage Boxes at night and their networks are actually much busier at night?
@jdaviescoates I'll ask ...
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I just signed up for iDrive now, atleast basic backup on Cloudron works with the s3 compatible provider.
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I just signed up for iDrive now, atleast basic backup on Cloudron works with the s3 compatible provider.
@girish Just noting; icedrive.net and idrive.com/e2/ are different providers, given it's a post @RazielKanos started for Icedrive, but in it I mention IDrive for price comparison.
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@girish Just noting; icedrive.net and idrive.com/e2/ are different providers, given it's a post @RazielKanos started for Icedrive, but in it I mention IDrive for price comparison.
@marcusquinn ah yes, indeed. I didn't try out icedrive but idrive.
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I just signed up for iDrive now, atleast basic backup on Cloudron works with the s3 compatible provider.
@girish said in icedrive as backup solution?:
I just signed up for iDrive now, atleast basic backup on Cloudron works with the s3 compatible provider.
How did you manage that? I have tried to find it in the docs and couldn't see it. I asked idrive support how to connect a Cloudron to their idrive storage and they said:
IDrive is a backup/restore solution where we can only save the backups on IDrive cloud, External drive or network drive. Any other locations cannot be accessed neither can be connected.
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@p44 said in icedrive as backup solution?:
@jdaviescoates Same timezone of Hetzner ... very strange. It seems they're limiting bandwidth in night time.
Have you asked them about it?
Perhaps it just that everyone everywhere is backing up stuff to Hetzner Storage Boxes at night and their networks are actually much busier at night?
@jdaviescoates said in icedrive as backup solution?:
Perhaps it just that everyone everywhere is backing up stuff to Hetzner Storage Boxes at night and their networks are actually much busier at night
Haha! This is so funny! The sys admins using Hetzner think to themselves, I will do the backups at night, when nobody else is using it. They don't think that the only people likely to be using Hetzner are also all sys admins, all thinking to themselves they will backup at night!
This is hilarious! Good insight!
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@girish said in icedrive as backup solution?:
I just signed up for iDrive now, atleast basic backup on Cloudron works with the s3 compatible provider.
How did you manage that? I have tried to find it in the docs and couldn't see it. I asked idrive support how to connect a Cloudron to their idrive storage and they said:
IDrive is a backup/restore solution where we can only save the backups on IDrive cloud, External drive or network drive. Any other locations cannot be accessed neither can be connected.
@LoudLemur You want their e2 offering, it's a separate login: https://www.idrive.com/object-storage-e2/
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@LoudLemur You want their e2 offering, it's a separate login: https://www.idrive.com/object-storage-e2/
@marcusquinn said in icedrive as backup solution?:
@LoudLemur You want their e2 offering, it's a separate login: https://www.idrive.com/object-storage-e2/
Thank you very much! After you create a bucket, how do you attach it as a volume? in Cloudron?
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@marcusquinn said in icedrive as backup solution?:
@LoudLemur You want their e2 offering, it's a separate login: https://www.idrive.com/object-storage-e2/
Thank you very much! After you create a bucket, how do you attach it as a volume? in Cloudron?
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@girish said in icedrive as backup solution?:
Hey, @girish, thank you. Such rapid support! And, as ever, my question was already answered in the documentation!
I wasn't looking in the backup section. I had in mind that I would find this in the storage section, as I am wanting to try this as a means of providing additional file storage for Cloudron applications, rather than for backing up Cloudron. I hope this will be OK.
How would marking the bucket on idrive e2 as private rather than public effect usage with applications on the Cloudron?
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@girish said in icedrive as backup solution?:
Hey, @girish, thank you. Such rapid support! And, as ever, my question was already answered in the documentation!
I wasn't looking in the backup section. I had in mind that I would find this in the storage section, as I am wanting to try this as a means of providing additional file storage for Cloudron applications, rather than for backing up Cloudron. I hope this will be OK.
How would marking the bucket on idrive e2 as private rather than public effect usage with applications on the Cloudron?
@LoudLemur said in icedrive as backup solution?:
How would marking the bucket on idrive e2 as private rather than public effect usage with applications on the Cloudron?
With object storage, public buckets mean it's accessible via HTTP to anyone.
Some people use it to host web assets or even entire static websites.
