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Full disk + failed update -> no more accessible dashboard

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    wrote on last edited by girish
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    Dear Community,

    I launched an upgrade to my Cloudron today and realized afterwards my disk was full (5G of log of a failed upgrade, 26G of Overlay2). I was not able to clean up the space taken by docker (despite running only two low usage app). By removing the 5G of logs I was able to re-run the upgrade and get my apps back up and running.

    Nowhoever I can't access my Cloudron dashboard anymore. The URL at which I was getting my dashboard now redirect to one of my app with an invalid cert.

    I wanted to disable the app in question but can't login via Cloudron CLI.

    What can I do get back access to the dashboard? The DNS didn't change but it seems the routing in Cloudron was affected by the update.

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      Have you seen https://docs.cloudron.io/troubleshooting/ and tried to walk though that?

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      • nebulonN nebulon

        Have you seen https://docs.cloudron.io/troubleshooting/ and tried to walk though that?

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        @nebulon I had followed the troubleshooting there to no avail. Deleting the root.key as mentionned in other posts was successfull but I still lost data in the mean time. Please improve how Cloudron deals with a disk getting full. That was subpar.

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          @nebulon I had followed the troubleshooting there to no avail. Deleting the root.key as mentionned in other posts was successfull but I still lost data in the mean time. Please improve how Cloudron deals with a disk getting full. That was subpar.

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          @vwvw sounds like we should soon at least get better notifications:

          @girish said in Expose disk usage / free space to API (preferably with a readonly token):

          @msbt ah ok, so you just want better notifications . Can do that.

          In 7.3.4 atleast, we started collecting du information in a cron job (every 24 hours).

          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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          • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

            @vwvw sounds like we should soon at least get better notifications:

            @girish said in Expose disk usage / free space to API (preferably with a readonly token):

            @msbt ah ok, so you just want better notifications . Can do that.

            In 7.3.4 atleast, we started collecting du information in a cron job (every 24 hours).

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            wrote on last edited by timconsidine
            #5

            @jdaviescoates said in Full disk + failed update -> no more accessible dashboard:

            sounds like we should soon at least get better notifications:

            notifications from Cloudron are great, but users are responsible for their own systems. I recommend STRONGLY that system health and disk usage are monitored independently. Yet another shout out for ntfy.sh either in their hosted version or your own self-hosted version.

            Accidents will always happen, but there is no excuse for not proactively monitoring, e.g.

            11/01/2023, 06:05
            
            TC-MSI
            Wed 11 Jan 06:05:01 UTC 2023
            *** System restart required ***
            Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
            /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-ubuntu--lv 109G 20G 84G 19% /
            
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            • timconsidineT timconsidine

              @jdaviescoates said in Full disk + failed update -> no more accessible dashboard:

              sounds like we should soon at least get better notifications:

              notifications from Cloudron are great, but users are responsible for their own systems. I recommend STRONGLY that system health and disk usage are monitored independently. Yet another shout out for ntfy.sh either in their hosted version or your own self-hosted version.

              Accidents will always happen, but there is no excuse for not proactively monitoring, e.g.

              11/01/2023, 06:05
              
              TC-MSI
              Wed 11 Jan 06:05:01 UTC 2023
              *** System restart required ***
              Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
              /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-ubuntu--lv 109G 20G 84G 19% /
              
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              @timconsidine yeah, I don't (yet) have any such monitoring in place, but having previously suffered the woes of a full disk I now:

              1. have a massive drive with loads of free space, and
              2. very often manually check on that

              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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              • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                @timconsidine yeah, I don't (yet) have any such monitoring in place, but having previously suffered the woes of a full disk I now:

                1. have a massive drive with loads of free space, and
                2. very often manually check on that
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                @jdaviescoates I didn't mean to direct my post at you !
                Just replied to and didn't remove the @
                Hope no offence caused
                It was a general comment
                Do automate the checking ... saves oodles of time and brainwaves.

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                  @timconsidine no offense caused, I realised what had happened 🙂

                  I need to work out best way to get those notifications alerts set-up...

                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                  • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                    @timconsidine no offense caused, I realised what had happened 🙂

                    I need to work out best way to get those notifications alerts set-up...

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                    @jdaviescoates you could set up a cron that gets usage info, and prints out a webpage you can monitor with Kuma for a keyword. When a threshold is met, you add/remove the keyword and fire off an alert via TG.

                    Similar for monitoring something with change detection app or n8n workflow.

                    Conscious tech

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