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What's coming in 8.2

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  • girishG girish

    We will be working on the following for 8.2:

    • (9.0) Backup integrity - store size and checksum of backups. Also provide a way to "verify" backup integrity in the remote.
    • (9.0) Show backup/restore progress
    • (9.0) Multiple Backup Destinations
    • (9.0) Granular Backup schedule
    • Fix issue with removal of stale/failed/partial backups
    • Add sqlite3 addon
    • Remove the global lock for backups.
    • App archival?
    • VM mode for apps?
    • Branding of OIDC button
    • Add more notification methods
    • Don't run du for small disks (see)
    • Mail attachment search

    This used to 8.1 but see this post

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    @girish said in What's coming in 8.2:

    Mail attachment search

    This is now implemented with Tika support in the mail server.

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    • girishG girish

      We will be working on the following for 8.2:

      • (9.0) Backup integrity - store size and checksum of backups. Also provide a way to "verify" backup integrity in the remote.
      • (9.0) Show backup/restore progress
      • (9.0) Multiple Backup Destinations
      • (9.0) Granular Backup schedule
      • Fix issue with removal of stale/failed/partial backups
      • Add sqlite3 addon
      • Remove the global lock for backups.
      • App archival?
      • VM mode for apps?
      • Branding of OIDC button
      • Add more notification methods
      • Don't run du for small disks (see)
      • Mail attachment search

      This used to 8.1 but see this post

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      girish
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      wrote on last edited by
      #62

      @girish said in What's coming in 8.2:

      Branding of OIDC button

      Implemented in https://git.cloudron.io/platform/box/-/commit/872705d58d3146ec6b6a5ac5aed6adbe9e245ab9 . The Cloudron name is used as the OIDC provider name as well. The apps will be adjusted one by one to make use of this new environment variable CLOUDRON_OIDC_PROVIDER_NAME

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      • girishG girish

        We will be working on the following for 8.2:

        • (9.0) Backup integrity - store size and checksum of backups. Also provide a way to "verify" backup integrity in the remote.
        • (9.0) Show backup/restore progress
        • (9.0) Multiple Backup Destinations
        • (9.0) Granular Backup schedule
        • Fix issue with removal of stale/failed/partial backups
        • Add sqlite3 addon
        • Remove the global lock for backups.
        • App archival?
        • VM mode for apps?
        • Branding of OIDC button
        • Add more notification methods
        • Don't run du for small disks (see)
        • Mail attachment search

        This used to 8.1 but see this post

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        wrote on last edited by
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        @girish said in What's coming in 8.2:

        VM mode for apps?

        We will re-evaluate this in some future release. For the moment, this is out of scope. It's too complicated to implement a VM like system that allow readwrite containers and further allow users to define backup directories, services, exposed ports etc. We will stick to pre-packaged apps for the moment.

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        • girishG girish

          @girish said in What's coming in 8.2:

          VM mode for apps?

          We will re-evaluate this in some future release. For the moment, this is out of scope. It's too complicated to implement a VM like system that allow readwrite containers and further allow users to define backup directories, services, exposed ports etc. We will stick to pre-packaged apps for the moment.

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          @girish how’s it going with multiple backup destinations? I’m really looking forward to this.

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            #65

            @girish is there gonna be any feature to backup email separately

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            • firmansiF firmansi

              @girish is there gonna be any feature to backup email separately

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              @firmansi internally, email is already backed up separately. You will find mail.tar.gz in your backups, for example. Or are you thinking of something else?

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                @girish well...i mean to back up differently (independent backup), currently, correct me if i am wrong, the backups involve the applications backup, so it turns out if i only want to backup email, i have to backup the app first then uninstall apps then back up cloudron along with the the email.

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                  @firmansi right.. there is no way to trigger a backup separately for just the mail right now. It's easy to add the button but implementing just restoring of mail server data also has to be implemented for completeness. But yeah, this is not there yet.

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                  • girishG girish

                    @firmansi right.. there is no way to trigger a backup separately for just the mail right now. It's easy to add the button but implementing just restoring of mail server data also has to be implemented for completeness. But yeah, this is not there yet.

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                    @girish have you encountered any hiccups regarding the multiple backup destinations or is it coming along smoothly?

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                      @humptydumpty it's not implemented yet, so.. sorry, no update on that front.

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                      • girishG girish

                        @humptydumpty it's not implemented yet, so.. sorry, no update on that front.

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                        @girish said in What's coming in 8.2:

                        @humptydumpty it's not implemented yet, so.. sorry, no update on that front.

                        FYI I'm really hoping that it won't just be multiple backup destinations, but also multiple backup formats, e.g. rsync to destination 1, tarball to destination 2

                        Perhaps it would also be good to be able to specifc type of back-up on a per-app basis. From the little I understand some apps suit rsync/ tarball better than others?

                        (although I have to admit I'm not at all clear on which apps suit which type - e.g. I used to think "lots of files -> rsync" but sometimes it seems "lots of files -> tarball (because it takes ages for it to check which files have actually changed)" 🤷

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                          #72

                          8.2 will also get initial support to mount any device from the host into the container. This is mostly done for home automation apps, but may also be relevant for AI apps, which need access to special devices, exposed by the GPU, from the host.

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                          • girishG girish

                            We will be working on the following for 8.2:

                            • (9.0) Backup integrity - store size and checksum of backups. Also provide a way to "verify" backup integrity in the remote.
                            • (9.0) Show backup/restore progress
                            • (9.0) Multiple Backup Destinations
                            • (9.0) Granular Backup schedule
                            • Fix issue with removal of stale/failed/partial backups
                            • Add sqlite3 addon
                            • Remove the global lock for backups.
                            • App archival?
                            • VM mode for apps?
                            • Branding of OIDC button
                            • Add more notification methods
                            • Don't run du for small disks (see)
                            • Mail attachment search

                            This used to 8.1 but see this post

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                            wrote on last edited by girish
                            #73

                            @girish said in What's coming in 8.2:

                            Remove the global lock for backups.

                            Finally, the global lock is gone. Practically, what this means is: Backups and Updates do not block app configuration anymore.

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                            • girishG girish

                              @girish said in What's coming in 8.2:

                              Remove the global lock for backups.

                              Finally, the global lock is gone. Practically, what this means is: Backups and Updates do not block app configuration anymore.

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                              @girish Amazing!

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                              • girishG girish

                                We will be working on the following for 8.2:

                                • (9.0) Backup integrity - store size and checksum of backups. Also provide a way to "verify" backup integrity in the remote.
                                • (9.0) Show backup/restore progress
                                • (9.0) Multiple Backup Destinations
                                • (9.0) Granular Backup schedule
                                • Fix issue with removal of stale/failed/partial backups
                                • Add sqlite3 addon
                                • Remove the global lock for backups.
                                • App archival?
                                • VM mode for apps?
                                • Branding of OIDC button
                                • Add more notification methods
                                • Don't run du for small disks (see)
                                • Mail attachment search

                                This used to 8.1 but see this post

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                                @girish said in What's coming in 8.2:

                                App archival?

                                This is implemented now. In the Uninstall section, there is an option to archive.

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                                In the Backups view, there is a listing of archives. You can unarchive them from there.

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                                Archiving means:

                                • App gets uninstalled freeing up space on server
                                • App won't be in the main dashboard
                                • The latest backup of the app is kept "forever". Not affected by backup cleaning policies.
                                • Can be unarchived. If you delete the archive entry itself, the associated backup will eventually go away based on cleanup policy.
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                                  Wow this can be super useful.
                                  Awesome 👍🏻❤️

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                                  • girishG girish

                                    We will be working on the following for 8.2:

                                    • (9.0) Backup integrity - store size and checksum of backups. Also provide a way to "verify" backup integrity in the remote.
                                    • (9.0) Show backup/restore progress
                                    • (9.0) Multiple Backup Destinations
                                    • (9.0) Granular Backup schedule
                                    • Fix issue with removal of stale/failed/partial backups
                                    • Add sqlite3 addon
                                    • Remove the global lock for backups.
                                    • App archival?
                                    • VM mode for apps?
                                    • Branding of OIDC button
                                    • Add more notification methods
                                    • Don't run du for small disks (see)
                                    • Mail attachment search

                                    This used to 8.1 but see this post

                                    girishG Offline
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                                    @girish said in What's coming in 8.2:

                                    Add more notification methods

                                    The notification stuff has been refactored now. For a start, each user (only admins) can decide what they want to get notified about by email. If you want notification about specific things, happy to add more but we just added the basics right now.

                                    5973fb16-7fd3-4b92-8947-1f1613f093fa-image.png

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                                      Making more change to backup stuff relies on getting the global lock changes out and well tested before we make more changes here. We will get 8.2 out in the coming week(s). Apart from backups, I think we implemented all the features listed initially. Will also help us get out Formbricks, Wallos and some other apps which rely on 8.2 features.

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                                      • girishG girish

                                        @girish said in What's coming in 8.2:

                                        Add more notification methods

                                        The notification stuff has been refactored now. For a start, each user (only admins) can decide what they want to get notified about by email. If you want notification about specific things, happy to add more but we just added the basics right now.

                                        5973fb16-7fd3-4b92-8947-1f1613f093fa-image.png

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                                        @girish About "app is down", I'm interested in a way to tune "restart automatically" for app being down. It's not the first time I notice an app is down or not responding because it crashed during the night and in the morning I have to manually restart it.
                                        it happened for instance that my wordpress blog was stopped due to high traffic because of being on the frontpage of hacker news... and so was down for several hours... what a pity 😛

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                                        • SansGuidonS SansGuidon

                                          @girish About "app is down", I'm interested in a way to tune "restart automatically" for app being down. It's not the first time I notice an app is down or not responding because it crashed during the night and in the morning I have to manually restart it.
                                          it happened for instance that my wordpress blog was stopped due to high traffic because of being on the frontpage of hacker news... and so was down for several hours... what a pity 😛

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                                          @SansGuidon I think we can add an automatic restart (one time when health check fails) next release. I guess we can make this hardcoded/automatic in the platform itself.

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