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@timconsidine

This could be a good alternative to SimpleLogin. They have a dockerfile available as well!

Not sure about the issue of it possibly clashing with the cloudron email service though

@timconsidine to specify: my goal is having the support system with projects/tickets directly integrated with the invoicing.

Then I don't have to switch between systems and manually copy/paste data from one to the other, and the customer has the option to login to one portal and see everything.

@luckow I will check out if n8n can do some "magic". Thanks for your input.

Prefex CRM looks like the better deal though, for the price of only two years for InvoiceNinja.

@ccfu thanks! Looks like a solid CRM tool - will check it out further

For the none financial side of things I am planning on using:

• LAMP/Surfer for the Website
• Git to store the website and scripts for projects
• Uptime Kuma for monitoring

I have a registered business in Germany (Kleinunternehmen) so I can provide IT services to companies/people that ask and provide them with an invoice, and to pay taxes.

Now I would consider myself a part time perfectionist, and would like to have the best experience for any potential customer (and myself) in regards to the formalities with invoices and payments etc.. But due to the extremely(!) low, if any, yearly revenue which I generate, it should be really low budget as well

I have tried Lexware Office, which was OK, but the price of 13€/Month was needlessly high. I am thinking about using Apps available on Cloudron (which I want to use anyway for private projects) for this (and more).

Ideal features would be:

• Ticketing/Request-System from which an offer/invoice can be triggered by mail, which provides direkt payment options for the customer, and marks the invoice automatically as paid
• Customer Portal which lists past projects with invoices etc. and potentially allow mail to ticket for new requests.

I looked into InvoiceNinja and Espo CRM, and Espo looks promising but their Sales Pack (for invoicing/payment method) costs ~20€/Month...

Instead of reinventing the wheel, does anybody have experience (positive or negative) with certain apps for the described usage scenario?

So I (a sysadmin) dipped my toes into seeing what needs to be done to package Checkmk as a Cloudron App.

Sadly having a ready made docker image does not help much, because Cloudron Packages are specifically crafted docker images which get generated by the Cloudron CLI from a dockerfile.

Source dockerfiles for Checkmk are available on Github but there they even mention that building from source is not trivial:

"We're building the Checkmk packages within specific docker images for the different distros. Please find the Dockerfiles under buildscripts/infrastructure/build-nodes/ in order to get an idea what's needed to build it locally. However, keep in mind that those Dockerfiles are heavily relying on our infrastructure and won't build from scratch on your machine."

To me the dockerfile seems pretty complicated, but maybe a developer / Cloudron Packager could chime in on this

@girish

sounds great! for app support you could maybe add a "support" entry for each app in the "configure app" settings which displays the contact information (mail or link to support page) of the maintainer.

something to keep in mind of course is to make it clear who support what.
cloudron system issues -> cloudron.
app updates or issues of the app running on cloudron -> maintainer
issues with the app itself -> app developers

marking the apps with a little icon to indicate who is maintaining it or maybe if the maintainers are somehow "verified"/"trusted" would be nice.

alternative is ofcourse to allow custom apps but make it abundantly clear that cloudron will not support any issues. could be a red indicator in the "support" tab like "not officially supported by cloudron. please contact support@maintainer.com for assistance or ask in the forum."

either way i would love to see custom app support!

maybe hiding the option for custom apps/app repos under "developer options" or something similar could be a start, so it has to be explicitly activated. here you could also add the info "activate at your own risk. custom apps are not supported by the cloudron team.

checkmk would be awesome to have available

@nebulon
Hi, I'm loving Cloudron so far! Could you please approve me as well so I can vote on the app wishlist?