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For context, I want to replace the Chat Trigger node with my own chat interface to chat with AI agents. thanks

Hi,

I am interested to see how the community has been able to build a chat frontend inside Cloudron for n8n workflows, with the current limitation.

I have thought about using Streamlit but the LAMP app is only for web apps so it won't work. Some of you will probably tell me to code one myself and host it inside LAMP but I'm not a dev. I can code simple apps with AI but that's about it.

Streamlit libraries offer everything and its super simple to create small apps... I'm just not sure how I can host a Streamlit app inside Cloudron without creating a custom app. Any suggestion?

Thanks!

Nice! Thanks for sharing

IMHO the biggest strength of Google Workspace is email deliverability. That is the first thing I would consider before switching.

I don't understand why you guys are spending your resources to add another note-taking app. We already have Outline & Etherpad which are excellent so why add another one?

That is disappointing. Please add apps for businesses and bring diversity in new apps.

A few suggestions:

• CRMs
  Twenty: https://github.com/twentyhq/twenty
  ERPNext: https://github.com/frappe/erpnext

• AI Agentic Platforms:
  Langflow (https://github.com/langflow-ai/langflow)
  Flowise (https://github.com/FlowiseAI/Flowise)

• No-code Apps Builder:
  Budibase (https://github.com/Budibase/budibase)
  Appsmith (https://github.com/appsmithorg/appsmith)

Etc... And please don't tell me to vote for these apps. They've already been voted on and are on the wish list. You don't care much about the votes anyway.

I am a paid customer. I love Cloudron... but I do check weekly the forum to see new apps with the hope of seeing more business-oriented apps that could help me scale my business but instead, you are just adding apps that nobody cares about.

Had to share my disappointment... and I am sure I'm not alone.

@timconsidine Yes I have no doubt it requires a lot of times.

My point is that the apps added are so random... You try to please everyone but the paid subscription is more adapted to business users.

If you would focus on adding more apps that can help business growth and save money, you would have much more paid users.

I own many businesses and there are a lot of open source apps that can help us scale and minimize our costs. Some have been voted many times here, but despite this, they never been added.

I understand you may want to prioritize simpler apps to manage but is it the main point of paying Cloudron, to get complex apps fully managed?

I have seen a lot of users posting on this forum and say they would pay a higher subscription to have access to more business-oriented apps but all these replies seem ignored.

I'm not saying increase your price (pls folks don't throw me rocks lol) but if you limit good apps just because you feel we don't pay enough to justify the maintenance costs, then I believe you should really considering a new plan that give access to those premium apps. What you have to lose doing this? For a business paying 30$ or 40$ it's nothing. More revenue for you, make your business users happy.

Seem a win-win.

okay thanks!

Wait... I think when you install Directus with Cloudron, it comes automatically with PostgreSQL. Does Cloudron team can confirm?

Hi,

I install Directus in Cloudron to create custom apps but I need to connect a database. I looked at Cloudron apps marketplace but I don't see any database such as MySQL, MangoDB or PostgreSQL, so how I can have a database for Directus?

By doing a search online I have found the PostgreSQL addon but this seems to be only a way to connect to the app's database, so it's not what I need.

I also found this https://registry.hub.docker.com/r/cloudron/postgresql but I have no idea what it's purpose.

So my question is, how to deploy PostgreSQL inside Cloudron? Thanks!

@SansGuidon That would be indeed amazing! I know we have the capabilities of adding custom apps but this is not everyone that has the skill to do so.

I am sure a lot of people are like me and decided to subscribe to Cloudron because they don't know about installing and managing apps, that's the main point of using Cloudron (At least for me).

I agree that having a roadmap would be awesome! I looked at the announcement of new apps and the average is 2-3 new apps monthly... but it's now almost 1 month since the last app and we haven't seen any new apps added yet. I can't wait to see what the team will add... I just hope it's a popular requested app. There are a lot of apps with a lot of votes that look amazing.

I subscribed to Cloudron about 2 months ago and loved its simplicity. So to start, I want to say how much I love the product.

However, let's be honest... You are lagging in terms of adding new apps. The amount of apps in the marketplace isn't great compared to other solutions. Or maybe I should say it differently... We are in 2024 and there are a lot of apps that are exploding in popularity and it seems Cloudron doesn't bother to add them. To name a few:

AppSmith, Budibase, ERPNext, AppFlowy, Supabase, Plane, and popular agentic platforms such as Autogen, Langflow, etc....

All these apps could play a big role in any business and despite having all the requirements to be added to Cloudron, they are still not there despite the amount of votes.

So being forced to install some of these apps to boost the productivity of my company, I decided to set up a new VPS and install some of the other Cloudron alternatives like Dokploy, CapRover, and Coolify.

These solutions are not beginner-friendly at all... How to update the apps installed? How to back up them? Brief... They are far behind Cloudron in terms of ease of use and features.

So this post is not meant to say bad things about Cloudron because it's an amazing product... but I would highly appreciate it if Cloudron could stop being so restrictive on the apps they add and try to be more "open-minded".

I have seen on another thread a staff confirming adding new apps were not in their priorities and that they were focusing on maintaining current apps. Damn... it's so bad because there are so many good apps in the open-source community and there is no way to install them easily.

That would be great too to see what others think about my post, maybe if we are more people sharing the same thoughts, Cloudron may be more receptive.

Finger crossed

@marcusquinn Yes I understand... but AppSmith have everything that Cloudron requires so why 3 years later this is still not integrated?

AppSmith or Budibase are an excellent complementary of N8N... They added the backend but they haven't added any Frontend/UI builder to complement with N8N. This doesn't make much sense to me.

@eddowding Yes I would pay an extra to have more apps. I understand some apps requires more work so why not adding a "premium apps" add-on. I would definitely pay the extra. I have no problem paying their times... Cloudron is amazing and I don't want to use anything else, but now I'm at a stage where I'm blocked because some important apps are not available on Cloudron.

@timconsidine We votes but we see other apps added every month with much fewer votes. I feel Cloudron prioritize new apps using other criteria than community votes, which is sad and remove the purpose of voting...

I see this being requested since 2021... What's the current state of this integration?

Thanks @LoudLemur for this summary.

Autogen has docker support https://microsoft.github.io/autogen/docs/installation/Docker/#step-1-install-docker

Crew AI doesn't seem as of now, you're right.

Please add agentic platforms. A few name:

Crew AI
Langflow
Autogen

They have all a version with UI, and docker. It would be amazing to have this inside Cloudron!

Hi,

With all the hype around AI and AI agents, that would be awesome if Cloudron could add a few agentic platforms apps to it's marketplace.

• Crew AI
• Langflow
• Autogen

To name a few. Is it on your plan guys? Thx!

Hi,

Currently, Open Web UI appears as "Unstable" in the apps store. Does this has been resolved with the recent update (4 days ago) ?

Thanks!

Great thanks @joseph ! Will do that and keep you posted

Hi,

Currently, I have a NocoDB instance hosted on Pikapods and I would like to migrate it to my Cloudron server.

Pikapods use PostgreSQL for NocoDB, which is the same DB as Cloudron. Based on their documentation, it is possible to have access to the database using this guide.

Does anyone already moved its NocoDB instance to Cloudron, and could share his process, or any guide/tutorial he followed? That would be greatly appreciated!

Also, I have a few automations already set up in Zapier using NocoDB webhooks, if I keep the same domain and same DB, will my automation still work after migrating?

I am not an expert and don't know much about PostgreSQL but the way I think I can do it (I may be totally wrong though) is that I can dump the SQL data from Pikapod in a single file (E.g. nocodb.sql), then rename it the same as Cloudron SQL (Let's say that after creating my instance of NocoDB in Cloudron, the SQL file that has been created is named "cloudron-nocodb.sql", then I can simply rename nocodb.sql to cloudron-nocodb.sql and replace it with the one on the server via ssh or file manager??), and then just update the PostgreSQL user and password in the ENV setting inside Cloudron.

Does my plan make sense? Thanks