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Ente is a service that provides a fully open source, end-to-end encrypted platform for you to store your data in the cloud without needing to trust the service provider. On top of this platform, we have built two apps so far: Ente Photos (an alternative to Apple and Google Photos) and Ente Auth (a 2FA alternative to the deprecated Authy).

This monorepo contains all our source code - the client apps (iOS / Android / F-Droid / Web / Linux / macOS / Windows) for both the products (and more planned future ones!), and the server that powers them.

Our source code and cryptography have been externally audited by Cure53 (a German cybersecurity firm, arguably the world's best), Symbolic Software (French cryptography experts) and Fallible (an Indian penetration testing firm).

Learn more at ente.io.

Link: https://github.com/ente-io/ente

Grocy is a web-based self-hosted groceries & household management solution for your home.

There are two dockers repo recommended by Grocy:

• https://github.com/grocy/grocy-docker
• https://github.com/linuxserver/docker-grocy

(while I don't feel the need for such an app, maybe some people would like it )

"Leantime is an open source project management system for small teams and startups."

Website: leantime.io
Docker: https://github.com/Leantime/docker-leantime

"Code-server is VS Code running on a remote server, accessible through the browser."

https://github.com/codercom/code-server

Try it out

docker run -p 127.0.0.1:8443:8443 -v "${PWD}:/root/project" codercom/code-server code-server --allow-http --no-auth

From the notion-like thread, "Twake covers all of your organizational needs through a single platform".

Integrates in a single interface:

• Messaging
• Calendar
• Documents
• Tasks
• Smartphone apps

It was a startup with a closed-source product which was bought by Linagora (open source company providing dev for french gov, big companies, etc.).

I asked on their chat, and they plan to integrate it to open paas and keep a standalone version in parallel.

I'm pretty excited by this, it looks really good and the fact it's supported by an open source shop is even better.

Install guide (docker compose): https://github.com/TwakeApp/Twake/blob/master/documentation/INSTALL.md

Language Tool is a Grammar, Style and Spell Checker. LanguageTool checks your writing in more than 20 languages.

See: https://languagetool.org/

You can run it from your server directly, instructions: https://dev.languagetool.org/http-server

And there are two docker implementations listed in their doc:

• https://github.com/Erikvl87/docker-languagetool
• https://github.com/silvio/docker-languagetool

Grow your contact lists, use custom data, and send your campaigns with Keila.
Proudly Open Source, made in Germany and hosted in the EU

Website: https://www.keila.io/
Github: https://github.com/pentacent/keila

This purpose to be a Malchimp replacement, features:

• Compose hybrid text & HTML emails with Markdown.
• Compose plain-text emails with support for Liquid templating.
• Send emails with SMTP, Sendgrid, Mailgun, AWS SES.
• Create & design your own signup forms.
• Import existing subscribers from CSV.
• Protect your forms against spammers with hCaptcha.
• One-click unsubscriptions.
• Click & open tracking of campaigns.
• Automatic contact quality monitoring & bounce handling.
• Powerful segmentation and custom fields.
• Fully-featured API for sending campaigns and syncing contacts

WIP:

• A/B tests
• Upload images & file attachments.
• Create custom HTML templates with reusable blocks.
• Powerful email automations.

I currently believe the real reason for not changing the license is very simple: if it's not broken, don't fix it.

And when you think like this, then Cloudron is working as intended:

• provides stable income for @girish and @nebulon
• self-hosting apps (mostly free software) becomes a solved problem
• platforms continuously gets updated and improved
• customers are happy, even if some like me and @jdaviescoates are not happy with the license, yet continue to use it.

The only problem that was set to be solved and currently isn't is the idea of providing financial support to upstream apps.

And I can't blame anyone for thinking like this, outside of ideological reasons and values.

A community fork has been gathering steam and is being actively developed:

https://github.com/subspacecommunity/subspace

Might be worth revisiting for potential packagers.

I was a happy Gandi customer, but now they got sold and domain prices will rise and they removed the 2 free emails per domain from April, and if you already had them, well you'll either have to pay or migrate emails.

They were already quite expensive, so this move does sound bullshit to me, unfortunately.

I was reading on NameSilo and Porkbun, any feedback on them? Any other suggestion outside of Cloudflare and OVH?

The value of Cloudron and why we pay a license is the appstore. So my naive person think that changing the platform code back to free software wouldn't affect negatively Cloudron business model.

It seems to me part of the reasoning to the license change was there wasn't much contribution to the platform anyway. I believe the same argument can be used to change it back to free software.

I'm sad not to be able to recommend Cloudron as the best open source paas since the license change.
It has in effect changed my relation to the project, from an invested advocate to a simple client.

Moving Cloudron back to free software would bring much needed positivity to 2020.

Postmill is a link aggregator that you can install on your own server. Tired of letting companies mine your data and make profit from your posts? This is a ready-to-use solution to bootstrap your community, including all the features that you've come to expect.

Basically a board like reddit, but selfhosted.
Example(and main deployment): https://raddle.me/

The software is actively developed.

Gitlab: https://gitlab.com/postmill
Docker: https://gitlab.com/postmill/Postmill/-/wikis/docker

https://garagehq.deuxfleurs.fr/

Alternative to Minio, specially made for selfhosting setup.

See: https://garagehq.deuxfleurs.fr/blog/2022-introducing-garage/
Code: https://git.deuxfleurs.fr/Deuxfleurs/garage

Forgejo is a self-hosted lightweight software forge.
Easy to install and low maintenance, it just does the job.

Brought to you by an inclusive community under the umbrella of Codeberg e.V., a democratic non-profit organization, Forgejo can be trusted to be exclusively Free Software. It includes and cooperates with hundreds of projects (Gitea, Git, ...) and is focused on scaling, federation and privacy.

Website: https://forgejo.org
Docker: https://forgejo.org/download/

This has been fully open sourced very recently: https://ente.io/blog/open-sourcing-our-server/

It has been externally audited, which is rare enough in the self-host scene to be underlined.

@atridad Uptime is only an aspect of it. Self hosted email system is resilient enough to allow for downtime up to a week.

I'm much more fearful of getting cut by an email provide: I have some protonmail email that was cut for an unknown reason, and let's not talk about Google horror stories where falling foul of any policy in any of their service will cut you off without appeal.

The key is to have control about the domain name, so you can reroute wherever you want at any point in time.

I'd like to suggest moving notifications to the main menu, in order to make it more accessible.

It may also be due to my light OCD which make me unable to live with unread notifications, I'm one of those inbox zero people.

Warning, it's a bit long.

I have whiteout some apps (mostly wordpress), because privacy. It's a mix of personal, test and client apps.

The meeting with Cloudron enthusisats we had on Workadventure and reading the following article by ERP Next developers made me remember about this thread.

When this discussion started back in July 2020, nebulon said "we will answer in more details", but since then, we haven't heard from him and girish directly on whether Cloudron could become fully open source again.

@nebulon @girish With the time passed and the discussions, is it a question you feel ready to answer?

@my1water Language Tool could be packaged for Cloudron.