Hello,
I just saw that Ghost, WordPress and Grav are supported, furthermore Kirby 3 being discussed. Thus I thought maybe Statamic 3 would be an idea as well. I have no experience with it but I thought about trying out Grav or Statamic 3 as they are quite similar to Kirby 3 and it might give some nice impressions to learn more like how other similar CMS' work.
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Hello,
I think a low priority improvement would be if the App Store page gets some sort of caching. Right now, it always loads multiple seconds on my system and after that it also loads the icons of the apps in the New apps section for a few seconds. In general the performance of that page isn't great and caching at least the text and logos shouldn't cause a problem as they change very seldom.
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@lukas Nope, there's no monitoring on their side for all hardware topics as far as I know. I remember from other cases that the support had to be contacted by customer and in some cases they requested proofs that something is wrong with the hardware before they check or replace it. Same with network issues on their side: You can't say "It's broken" when it is on their side and then they check it, agree and fix it. You have to send them monitoring logs. That's what I dislike about them. Beside of that, replacing faulty hardware is of course free of charge.
My recommendations so far:
Contabo is top notch. Never had any issue with their hardware (1 HW replacement in several years) and their support replies within minutes in case of technical issues on their side. Just perfect for a great price. Netcup is fine as well and good support in case of emergencies as well.
Hello,
the Domain Setup documentation at https://docs.cloudron.io/installation/#domain-setup is outdated. Some providers are not named and some option was added that isn't self-explaining:
E. g. Netcup and "No-op (only for development)" are missing. I suspect the later one is usable in case you just try out the tool and don't want to change DNS settings at your domain registrar yet? That would be good because I would like to evaluate it first before I do DNS changes.
Thank you for updating this.
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@timconsidine said in LT = waste of time:
limited desktop support (only BigTech doc formats)
I never used LanguageTool with Cloudron or last 1-2 yrs but when I used it 3-4 years ago regularly it provided excellent results and there was a LibreOffice plug-in so it's not limited to .docx.
Hello,
I just noticed that the memory usage column of the Services page is not helpful. You have no information how much % and RAM is taken. Just a green bar with no hover information and no text.
I think it should show the memory usage in % and in MB/GB as text on the bar.
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@timconsidine said in Abuse report received:
I know some people love it, but I hate Wordpress almost as much as I hate <insert favourite satan>.
I wouldn't be surprised if a WordPress instance caused it. WordPress is a security nightmare and if it's unmaintained, it's even more. Sadly popularity of a software doesn't requires a proper software quality . . .
I'm curious as well. If Cloudron is deciding about the whole environment it runs on, it must provide proper tools. Furthermore it also needs ways to include security or monitoring tools that are common but not supported officially. Otherwise we have in general some kind of compliance or security issue in general someday.
@girish said in Suggestion for prereleases:
7.5 is actually not released but is offered as a pre-release. Did you upgrade from 7.4 to 7.5 ? It should have informed you that this is unstable. Can you tell me how your upgrade flow (as in, how did you end up with 7.5)?
I started with 7.4.x and read in the forum that it fixed something that did annoy me during the evaluation of the product so I thought that a upgrade sounds good and I just checked the logs: Looks like it did update itself via cronjob:
25.06.2023 cron Cloudron updated to version 7.5.0
(Like others reported.) In general v7.5 looks like a good improvement to v7.4 although some stuff is a bit broken (nothing too critcial).
I doubt that you are talking about the software Cloudron nor an app that you host via Cloudron so this sounds like you are in the wrong forum.
Hello,
I just noticed that the Teamspeak server app and MonicaHQ for example have lines like this:
This app packages MonicaHQ 4.0.0
This app packages MonicaHQ 3.6.0.
Are these copy and paste errors? My understanding is that an app package can just package 1 version.
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I see what you mean. It somehow fits to the clean UI approach. In my pov I don't think the clean UI approach is a good idea in general because most of the times things lack while I rarely feel that I'm overwhelmed by details or options. We are far away from that for the Cloudron UI.
@girish said in PHP8.1 outdated (PHP v8.1.19 current):
I assume you are asking this for security reasons.
Hey @girish. Thanks for your reply. Actually it depends!
For MySQL: It's a matter of running not into backup import/export stuff or facing data losses because of some DBMS bug. So there I just prefer to having a up2date DBMS because in the past I faced one or two major issues with productive software where patching the systems could have prevented it.
For apache2: Yes, I think no application really relies on the version nor it's super likely to hit a bug in it. Of course I faced apache2/nginx module bugs in the past but that's quite rare. Nevertheless it would help to have an up2date version at that point as well to prevent cases like that and sometimes security issues are fixed there as well.
For PHP: Indeed this is the most relevant part for your deployed websites. In the past I just had to care about major PHP releases; minor versions never broke anything for me and had never been a requirement for any software I saw. Of course, security matters here as well.
Thanks for clarifying which software of LAMP is managed by the platform/OS and which is managed by Cloudron itself. That gave a better insight for me.
All the integrations/AI features need an extra App, yes.
Sounds good to me. It looks like they ship PHP 8.1 with their own docker while they recommend PHP 8.2. That's a bit weird.
Excellent, nice to hear! I'm really excited about some of the features!
I just upvoted this because I use Kirby 3 for a project of mine.
Regarding requiring a license: As far as I know you can develop local, do some personal/private local page and try out the CMS as long as you don't publish it public. Additionally, the Kirby team does provide free licenses in case your page/project belongs to some specific context, e. g. is beneficial to the public/society.
See the FAQ for details: https://getkirby.com/buy
Not sure whether and how this applies in the upcoming Kirby 4 release.
Hello,
I just noticed in the audit log (/settings/audit) of BookStack that the timezone is in UTC + the logged IP address is an internal one:
Maybe during the setup the timezone UTC should be updated to fit the one of the admin user in Cloudron + the real IP address being logged. (And maybe a note in the BookStack documentation of Cloudron; for other apps it's documented but not for this one).
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Hello,
I come from managing Linux servers on my own and having experience with server control panels like DirectAdmin, Plesk, cPanel and so on. At the moment I think about converting to cloudron because I have one or two applications that cause a maintenance nightmare, e. g. where maintaining them causes so much workload that it's not feasible anymore due to quick release cycles, complex update or upgrade processes and so on.
For now, I understand that Cloudron does take care of the OS and the specific apps it supports so I have no work with that. I also found out that I can use so-called add-ons to use e. g. one PostgreSQL instance for multiple apps to save hardware resources.
What I don't see: Is it possible to operate a standalone, open source, stable mailserver solution like mailcow, exim/postfix, etc.? I read that Cloudron has an own mailserver in the paid license but no information on what it relies on and I dislike to have mails in Cloudron's UI itself. I prefer to have an own email app to make sure I can have a dedicated email environment.
Does something like this exist? If not, what would be a solution here? Using e. g. plesk + cloudron doesn't sound like it's supported or a good idea.
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@girish I checked the logs of Nextcloud or Collabora back then and noticed that it was wrong by ~ 2 hours if I remember right. Thus I changed the timezone setting in the Settings view of Cloudron from Los Angeles (whyever that was chosen) to Europe/Berlin and it was fine.
I was curious about this tool. Looks like one of those tools that are perfect to get into legal troubles, isn't it? It reminds me of the cases where tools like this recorded credit card input and other sensitive data by accident or even shared it with third partys. Furthermore a privacy policy from 2021 (with standard texts it seems) doesn't sound like they have a clue about GDPR or privacy-driven products. I didn't even find out the company behind this (just some relationship to US and France).
(At least they try to mention it and cover it under https://openreplay.com/session-replay-guide.html#importance-of-data-privacy-in-session-replay so theoretically it could be done properly at least for such basic cases)