@scooke what are your concerns with Taobao Mirror?

This sounds good. I use cloudinary.com for all my media serving (in html emails, and blog posts) as various attempts at using Minio or S3 were just too clunky or required wizard-level luck. File sharing options also don't seem to work as well. Other PHP options like ResourceSpace or even Wordpress also just don't satisfy me. If this works (I've spent the morning trying various apps, unrelated, using Docker and docker compose up and it is eye-opening and frustrating how many DO NOT "just work") and could be made available on Cloudron, I'd be so happy.

Tried this on Yunohost and REALLY liked it. MUCH easier to manage than Invoice Ninja.

@LoudLemur Yeah AnythingLLM is amazing, I believe much cleaner and intuitive than Open WebUI. One can install it online as well via Coolify or EasyPanel and it's quite impressive out of the box too. Thanks for sharing this summary.

I just got asked about installing this https://docs.decidim.org/en/develop/develop/docker.html

It would be a good thing to have a data warehouse like clickhouse on the same sever as superset or metabase and n8n.

I tried fizzy; overall it’s very simple, and it keeps our minds from being distracted by too many features. However, I think that at its current stage of development, the chance that the Cloudron team will package this app is extremely low.

Hi, me too! We use Freescout and want to host this on our Freescount VM so we keep our data in house.

@LoudLemur I haven't touched it in a while, but you're welcome to update it and test it out, back then everything was working except email, but that was 4 years ago, so it probably evolved and made it work

@girish Glad to serve. If the goal is an addon, then... I think the backup piece should be straight-forward? (I have some more info in the packaging thread about this.) Essentially, you want to make sure the SQLite DB is backed up, and then you backup the filesystem. I have questions about what happens if (say) a restore happens (e.g. what if the filesystem path changes?), but those things can be explored. There is an administrative API that (once you generate a secret/trusted admin API token) lets you do everything administratively via that API (bucket creation, etc.). As to a web interface, I would not recommend you create one for end-users. (I suspect this is not what you mean.) You have NextCloud, XBackBone, and other apps that can talk to an S3-compatible backend for file browsing. What people might need/want is a way to: Create/remove buckets (which, on the backend, you'd use your secret admin key) Create/remove keys and attach them to buckets Create/remove administrative keys (for superusers who want to script things against the backend) Bonus: the ability to designate a bucket as a static site, and then you do the DNS work on the backend to point either a subsubdomain at it (e.g. site.s3.example.com) or a whole new domain (e.g. someothersite.com -> site.s3.example.com) I suspect you could iterate towards this, if you wanted to. Release it with terminal-only management to start, and work towards an admin interface for common bucket creation/removal-type tasks. There are things that Garage does not do (e.g. lifecycle rules), so this is not a "full" S3 clone (the way Minio aspired to be). In this regard, SeaweedFS might offer more features (and a built-in admin UI)... so, it might be worth doing a spike to explore it as well. At a glance, it is similar, but it also is intended to scale (e.g. it does Raft consensus and Reed-Solomon EC if you want it) in a way that Garage does not. This might also be a reason to not use Seaweed. I can poke it with a stick if it would be valuable. Update, a few hours later: I would recommend sticking with Garage.

@composer nice. you compared to Element recently? any deal-breaker differences?

The library is also usable in nextcloud: https://github.com/nextcloud/whiteboard/blob/main/README.md I use it (not in cloudron) with a simple docker-compose: services: whiteboard: image: ghcr.io/nextcloud-releases/whiteboard restart: always # ports: # - 3002:3002 environment: - NEXTCLOUD_URL=https://your.nextcloud.url - JWT_SECRET_KEY=KEYsome-strong-one

https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/9857/webtrees-web-based-family-history-software?_=1765106819684

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