Hoarder (Now, Karakeep) - Mymind alternative - The Ultimate All-In-One Bookmark and Note Taking App

[ekevu123]

@girish The other apps Cloudron has in this regard are not really good... judged by user-friendliness and mobile support.

[swheeler78]

Add me to the list of people wanting this added.

[scooke]

Yeah, I don't know. The amount of space the saved items take for display is off-putting. Only 3 across.

And the tagging relies on OpenAi. The blurb for this boomarker says " Though, roughly, You'll be able to generate tags for almost 3000+ bookmarks for less than $1." The problem is, as I understand it, there is a Free tier for OpenAI, and a $20/month tier. No $1 tier.

Have you not tried ArchiveBox? It's a Bookmark app, and more. I like that it saves the entire page, in various formats, rather than just the url. It's got tags galore, just like Hoarder. And you can view your saved items in a icon view, or list view, if you really need an icon view like Hoarder. ArchiveBox has browser extensions - very user-friendly. Basically, I don't see what Hoarder would bring, other than more bills I need to pay (OpenAI).

EDIT: I added the two views ArchiveBox gives. I like it.

[robi]

@scooke Avoid using OpenAI, try XAI (Grok) or Deepseek & others

[SansGuidon]

I dont see the absolute need of AI for tagging really, it's so personal and can be achieved without AI, without losing accuracy. Wallabag does it with their tag engine. Cheaper and more accurate and ecological so than any AI.
AI makes also the results very random and unpredictable in terms of quality and makes such apps very dependent on something else. Why not local models?

[jdaviescoates]

In other news, Hoarder are being attacked by patent trolls https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/1i29pi1/hoarder_the_name_is_being_stolen_from_me/

[scooke]

@robi My point was the need to use OpenAI was a negative.

[robi]

@scooke I know.

Not all AI services are paid was my point.

[randyjc]

I’ve been testing this app on PikaPods, and I immediately fell in love with it. It’s super easy to use, and the variety of things you can do is amazing. It’s basically an ‘app hoarder’ you can store bookmarks, take notes, save images and quotes, and even archive stuff via HTML or screenshots. Plus, you can create lists and track everything with RSS feeds, making it a damn useful all-in-one solution. If I could host it on my own Cloudron environment, it would definitely be my main go-to.

Example:
I wanted to use a smart list that automatically includes anything tagged with music, but smart lists don’t allow wildcards or partial tag matching. To solve this, I added a custom AI prompt to ensure music-related content is always tagged correctly:

If the content is about music (songs, artists, albums, concerts, or playlists), always add the tag "music".  
If it's specifically a music video, also add "music video".  
Include relevant genres like "rock", "pop", or "jazz" when identifiable.  
Do not tag unrelated content.  
Ensure all tags are in English.

And voilà problem solved! Now, my smart list works exactly as I wanted, making the app even more powerful for organizing content.

[ekevu123]

I have also tested it on Pikapods right now, and I can say it's better than the current alternatives on Cloudron. I would even suggest that the current apps that do something similar on Cloudron could be discontinued to support this, which seems to be by far better.

[swheeler78]

@scooke You don't need Open AI or any AI to tag. It's just optional.

[seeker]

it has changed its name to (I assume) deal with the patent issues
https://docs.karakeep.app/administration/hoarder-to-karakeep-migration/

[LoudLemur]

@robi Yes! Or use a service with an "OpenAI compatible" API, e.g. https://gab.ai

In any case, please add me to this growing list of "we want Karakeep" people. Thank you to @jagan too for so wholeheartedly recommending this application.

I remember when somebody got me onto Shaarli! I was delighted. Then @timeconsidine tuned me onto Linkwarden, which was a bit more advanced. Hearing @jagan raving about how it helps tidy up your notes, well, I just want to try this.

I hope we support it soon.

[necrevistonnezr]

With linkding possibly abandoned (see https://github.com/sissbruecker/linkding/issues/1367), Karakeep would be a strong contestant for an app release!
Singlefile is now built-in as well.

[GregY]

@necrevistonnezr said:

With linkding possibly abandoned (see https://github.com/sissbruecker/linkding/issues/1367)

[LoudLemur]

One nice feature about https://karakeep.app/ is that it automatically tags your bookmarks for you. This can be very handy if you are trying to rapidly research several new sites. It can also help keep your tags better organized.

I hope we support karakeep.

I am still quite a way behind everybody else. I still have fond memories of how much Shaarli helped and am just getting used to the warm glow of using linkwarden.

️ Bookmark importers from Chrome, Pocket, Linkwarden, Omnivore, Tab Session Manager.

https://docs.karakeep.app/

[necrevistonnezr]

@girish said:

This whole forum will rain down on me if we release another notes/link/bookmark app

Maybe we can revisit this as Linkding‘s author still seems to be MIA (https://github.com/sissbruecker/linkding/issues/1367)….

[andreasdueren]

@necrevistonnezr @loudlemur @jagan @scooke @jdaviescoates @gregy @swheeler78 @ekevu123

I packaged this for now. But I'm honestly a bit underwhelmed by it.Was hoping it would be more useful as a note taking app, but it's practically only for bookmarks. https://ca.cloudron.io/app/karakeep

[timconsidine]

@andreasdueren looks nice though
good job, thank you

[necrevistonnezr]

Thank you very much!