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Hoarder (Now, Karakeep) - Mymind alternative - The Ultimate All-In-One Bookmark and Note Taking App

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  • robiR
    robiR
    robi
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    #18

    @scooke Avoid using OpenAI, try XAI (Grok) or Deepseek & others

    Conscious tech

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    • SansGuidonS
      SansGuidonS
      SansGuidon
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      #19

      I dont see the absolute need of AI for tagging really, it's so personal and can be achieved without AI, without losing accuracy. Wallabag does it with their tag engine. Cheaper and more accurate and ecological so than any AI.
      AI makes also the results very random and unpredictable in terms of quality and makes such apps very dependent on something else. Why not local models?

      About me / Now

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      • jdaviescoatesJ
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        jdaviescoates
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        #20

        In other news, Hoarder are being attacked by patent trolls https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/1i29pi1/hoarder_the_name_is_being_stolen_from_me/

        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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        • robiR robi

          @scooke Avoid using OpenAI, try XAI (Grok) or Deepseek & others

          scookeS
          scookeS
          scooke
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          #21

          @robi My point was the need to use OpenAI was a negative.

          A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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          • scookeS scooke

            @robi My point was the need to use OpenAI was a negative.

            robiR
            robiR
            robi
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            #22

            @scooke I know. šŸ˜‰

            Not all AI services are paid was my point.

            Conscious tech

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            • randyjcR
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              randyjc
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              #23

              I’ve been testing this app on PikaPods, and I immediately fell in love with it. It’s super easy to use, and the variety of things you can do is amazing. It’s basically an ā€˜app hoarder’ you can store bookmarks, take notes, save images and quotes, and even archive stuff via HTML or screenshots. Plus, you can create lists and track everything with RSS feeds, making it a damn useful all-in-one solution. If I could host it on my own Cloudron environment, it would definitely be my main go-to.

              Example:
              I wanted to use a smart list that automatically includes anything tagged with music, but smart lists don’t allow wildcards or partial tag matching. To solve this, I added a custom AI prompt to ensure music-related content is always tagged correctly:

              If the content is about music (songs, artists, albums, concerts, or playlists), always add the tag "music".  
              If it's specifically a music video, also add "music video".  
              Include relevant genres like "rock", "pop", or "jazz" when identifiable.  
              Do not tag unrelated content.  
              Ensure all tags are in English.
              

              And voilĆ  problem solved! Now, my smart list works exactly as I wanted, making the app even more powerful for organizing content.

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                #24

                I have also tested it on Pikapods right now, and I can say it's better than the current alternatives on Cloudron. I would even suggest that the current apps that do something similar on Cloudron could be discontinued to support this, which seems to be by far better.

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                • scookeS scooke

                  @robi My point was the need to use OpenAI was a negative.

                  swheeler78S
                  swheeler78S
                  swheeler78
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                  #25

                  @scooke You don't need Open AI or any AI to tag. It's just optional.

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                    seeker
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                    #26

                    it has changed its name to (I assume) deal with the patent issues
                    https://docs.karakeep.app/administration/hoarder-to-karakeep-migration/

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                    • robiR robi

                      @scooke Avoid using OpenAI, try XAI (Grok) or Deepseek & others

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                      LoudLemur
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                      #27

                      @robi Yes! Or use a service with an "OpenAI compatible" API, e.g. https://gab.ai

                      In any case, please add me to this growing list of "we want Karakeep" people. Thank you to @jagan too for so wholeheartedly recommending this application.

                      I remember when somebody got me onto Shaarli! I was delighted. Then @timeconsidine tuned me onto Linkwarden, which was a bit more advanced. Hearing @jagan raving about how it helps tidy up your notes, well, I just want to try this.

                      I hope we support it soon.

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                      • necrevistonnezrN
                        necrevistonnezrN
                        necrevistonnezr
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                        #28

                        With linkding possibly abandoned (see https://github.com/sissbruecker/linkding/issues/1367), Karakeep would be a strong contestant for an app release!
                        Singlefile is now built-in as well.

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                        • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                          With linkding possibly abandoned (see https://github.com/sissbruecker/linkding/issues/1367), Karakeep would be a strong contestant for an app release!
                          Singlefile is now built-in as well.

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                          GregY
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                          #29

                          @necrevistonnezr said:

                          With linkding possibly abandoned (see https://github.com/sissbruecker/linkding/issues/1367)

                          😧

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                            LoudLemur
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                            #30

                            One nice feature about https://karakeep.app/ is that it automatically tags your bookmarks for you. This can be very handy if you are trying to rapidly research several new sites. It can also help keep your tags better organized.

                            I hope we support karakeep.

                            I am still quite a way behind everybody else. I still have fond memories of how much Shaarli helped and am just getting used to the warm glow of using linkwarden.

                            ā¬‡ļø Bookmark importers from Chrome, Pocket, Linkwarden, Omnivore, Tab Session Manager.

                            https://docs.karakeep.app/

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                            • girishG girish

                              This whole forum will rain down on me if we release another notes/link/bookmark app šŸ˜›

                              necrevistonnezrN
                              necrevistonnezrN
                              necrevistonnezr
                              wrote on last edited by necrevistonnezr
                              #31

                              @girish said:

                              This whole forum will rain down on me if we release another notes/link/bookmark app šŸ˜›

                              Maybe we can revisit this as Linkdingā€˜s author still seems to be MIA (https://github.com/sissbruecker/linkding/issues/1367)….

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                              • andreasduerenA
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                                andreasdueren
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                                @necrevistonnezr @loudlemur @jagan @scooke @jdaviescoates @gregy @swheeler78 @ekevu123

                                I packaged this for now. But I'm honestly a bit underwhelmed by it.Was hoping it would be more useful as a note taking app, but it's practically only for bookmarks. https://ca.cloudron.io/app/karakeep

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                                • andreasduerenA andreasdueren

                                  @necrevistonnezr @loudlemur @jagan @scooke @jdaviescoates @gregy @swheeler78 @ekevu123

                                  I packaged this for now. But I'm honestly a bit underwhelmed by it.Was hoping it would be more useful as a note taking app, but it's practically only for bookmarks. https://ca.cloudron.io/app/karakeep

                                  timconsidineT
                                  timconsidineT
                                  timconsidine
                                  App Dev
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #33

                                  @andreasdueren looks nice though
                                  good job, thank you

                                  Indie app dev, scratching my itches : communityapps.appx.uk, portfolio at myca.appx.uk

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                                  • necrevistonnezrN
                                    necrevistonnezrN
                                    necrevistonnezr
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                                    #34

                                    Thank you very much!

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                                    • robiR
                                      robiR
                                      robi
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                                      Can this keep track of browsing history or only booked bookmarks?

                                      I'd love to reduce the many tabs I have, if they would be searchable later.

                                      Conscious tech

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                                      • robiR robi

                                        Can this keep track of browsing history or only booked bookmarks?

                                        I'd love to reduce the many tabs I have, if they would be searchable later.

                                        jdaviescoatesJ
                                        jdaviescoatesJ
                                        jdaviescoates
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                                        #36

                                        @robi I use OneTab for that, although I don't think it searches within the pages.

                                        https://www.one-tab.com/

                                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                        • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                          @robi I use OneTab for that, although I don't think it searches within the pages.

                                          https://www.one-tab.com/

                                          robiR
                                          robiR
                                          robi
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #37

                                          @jdaviescoates Thanks for the reminder.. I used to use it a long time ago.

                                          Installed it, had 860+ tabs to organize.

                                          I just wish it would restore tab groups in sleep state instead of loading them all at once.

                                          Conscious tech

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