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Cloudron Backup for Moving to Another VPS

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    leemuljadi
    wrote last edited by leemuljadi
    #6

    Thanks all for the response!

    @BrutalBirdie is this how to install cloudron with specific version?

    wget https://cloudron.io/cloudron-setup
    chmod +x cloudron-setup
    ./cloudron-setup --version x.y.z
    

    and how to check the fresh version installed in the fresh server?
    I use Vultr and install Cloudron from the marketplace but when checking with

    cloudron --version
    

    it shows

    cloudron: command not found
    
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    • L leemuljadi

      Thanks all for the response!

      @BrutalBirdie is this how to install cloudron with specific version?

      wget https://cloudron.io/cloudron-setup
      chmod +x cloudron-setup
      ./cloudron-setup --version x.y.z
      

      and how to check the fresh version installed in the fresh server?
      I use Vultr and install Cloudron from the marketplace but when checking with

      cloudron --version
      

      it shows

      cloudron: command not found
      
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      BrutalBirdie
      Partner
      wrote last edited by
      #7

      @leemuljadi said in Cloudron Backup for Moving to Another VPS:

      is this how to install cloudron with specific version?

      According to the official documentation:
      https://docs.cloudron.io/backups/#restore-cloudron

      wget https://cloudron.io/cloudron-setup
      chmod +x cloudron-setup
      ./cloudron-setup --version x.y.z # version must match your backup version
      

      If you run:

      cloudron-support --send-diagnostics
      

      It will generate all information needed for support and give you an URL to view all the information.
      Will look something like this:

      ========================================================
      Linux
      ========================================================
      
      Linux my-DOMAIN-TLD 6.8.0-60-generic #63-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Tue Apr 15 19:04:15 UTC 2025 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
      
      ========================================================
      Ubuntu
      ========================================================
      
      Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
      Description:	Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS
      Release:	24.04
      Codename:	noble
      
      ========================================================
      Cloudron
      ========================================================
      
      Cloudron version: 8.3.2
      Dashboard domain: DOMAIN.TLD
      
      [...]
      

      @leemuljadi said in Cloudron Backup for Moving to Another VPS:

      use Vultr and install Cloudron from the marketplace

      I am not sure this type of setup offers a version selection on installation.
      Time to get your own hands dirty (= If you need any help, let the forum know.

      Like my work? Consider donating a drink. Cheers!

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      • L leemuljadi

        Thanks all for the response!

        @BrutalBirdie is this how to install cloudron with specific version?

        wget https://cloudron.io/cloudron-setup
        chmod +x cloudron-setup
        ./cloudron-setup --version x.y.z
        

        and how to check the fresh version installed in the fresh server?
        I use Vultr and install Cloudron from the marketplace but when checking with

        cloudron --version
        

        it shows

        cloudron: command not found
        
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        wrote last edited by
        #8

        @leemuljadi said in Cloudron Backup for Moving to Another VPS:

        I use Vultr and install Cloudron from the marketplace but when checking with

        The marketplace only has the latest version of Cloudron. They don't have a way to select old versions. On Vultr, the cloudron version is 8.3.2

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          leemuljadi
          wrote last edited by leemuljadi
          #9

          Alright cool thanks guys, I made to install Cloudron on new ubuntu server.

          Now based on:
          @jdaviescoates https://docs.cloudron.io/backups/#dry-run

          I tried several times of this dry-run steps but it will still pointing to the old server IP, any idea why?

          and what is gonna happened if I just restore without a dry run?

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          • L leemuljadi

            Alright cool thanks guys, I made to install Cloudron on new ubuntu server.

            Now based on:
            @jdaviescoates https://docs.cloudron.io/backups/#dry-run

            I tried several times of this dry-run steps but it will still pointing to the old server IP, any idea why?

            and what is gonna happened if I just restore without a dry run?

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            joseph
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            wrote last edited by
            #10

            @leemuljadi said in Cloudron Backup for Moving to Another VPS:

            and what is gonna happened if I just restore without a dry run?

            With dry run, it won't update your DNS. Without dry run, it will update your DNS .

            (assuming, you are using one of the programmatic DNS providers)

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            • L leemuljadi

              Alright cool thanks guys, I made to install Cloudron on new ubuntu server.

              Now based on:
              @jdaviescoates https://docs.cloudron.io/backups/#dry-run

              I tried several times of this dry-run steps but it will still pointing to the old server IP, any idea why?

              and what is gonna happened if I just restore without a dry run?

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              jdaviescoates
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              #11

              @leemuljadi said in Cloudron Backup for Moving to Another VPS:

              I tried several times of this dry-run steps but it will still pointing to the old server IP, any idea why?

              To access your new server before updating DNS edit your local hosts file (e.g on Linux it's /etc/hosts) to trick your local machine to go to the new IP address.

              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                leemuljadi
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                #12

                @jdaviescoates yes I have updated /etc/hosts on my Mac local machine, but seems no effect. Could you please share what it suppose to look like? And after adding the new IP address and domain name run the dry-run it should connect the Cloudron to the new VPS IP right?

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                • L leemuljadi

                  @jdaviescoates yes I have updated /etc/hosts on my Mac local machine, but seems no effect. Could you please share what it suppose to look like? And after adding the new IP address and domain name run the dry-run it should connect the Cloudron to the new VPS IP right?

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                  james
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                  @leemuljadi said in Cloudron Backup for Moving to Another VPS:

                  Could you please share what it suppose to look like?

                  The /etc/hosts file is structured in the following way:

                  IP sub.domain.tld
                  

                  So lets say your DNS name is my.awesome.it and the official IP from the DNS is 64.26.12.63
                  Offical DNS can be checked with e.g:

                  # get IPv4 for Domain from Cloudflare DNS
                  dig A my.awesome.it +short @1.1.1.1
                  
                  # get IPv6 for Domain from Cloudflare DNS
                  dig AAAA my.awesome.it +short @1.1.1.1
                  

                  Now you have set up a new server with the IP 53.82.33.6. You have run the Cloudron restore with the dry run option.

                  Now you need to edit your /etc/hosts file and add the following line:

                  53.82.33.6 my.awesome.it
                  

                  You should now be able to access my.awesome.it and see your dry run restored Cloudron.
                  Watch out tho! Browsers have DNS Cache! You might want to use a private / incognito windows to access my.awesome.it to avoid the DNS cache.
                  One more note.
                  If you have set up IPv4 and IPv6 for your Cloudron and do a dry run restore and only set the IPv4 in your /etc/hosts file you might still get served the old one if your browser decided it uses IPv6 first.
                  So it might be best to set both in /etc/hosts.

                  ~Cheers!

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                    leemuljadi
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                    #14

                    @james thanks for the thorough explanations. so I have done this part:
                    example: 53.82.33.6 my.awesome.it and adding in the /etc/hosts file
                    but probably still got that browser cache. So I already open it and stuck in this page when opening through the new server IP:
                    Screenshot 2025-05-22 at 11.30.22 pm.png
                    How do I manage this?

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                    • L leemuljadi

                      @james thanks for the thorough explanations. so I have done this part:
                      example: 53.82.33.6 my.awesome.it and adding in the /etc/hosts file
                      but probably still got that browser cache. So I already open it and stuck in this page when opening through the new server IP:
                      Screenshot 2025-05-22 at 11.30.22 pm.png
                      How do I manage this?

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                      jdaviescoates
                      wrote last edited by
                      #15

                      @leemuljadi don't go to the IP go to the URL. If you've correctly done the hosts thing the URL will go to the new IP

                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                        leemuljadi
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                        #16

                        Screenshot 2025-05-27 at 3.56.45 pm.png
                        Hi all, got issues while restoring to a new VPS, anyone got this before?

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                          @leemuljadi I forked your question here
                          https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/13846/backup-restore-error-route-unavailable-post-activation
                          Since this is now another question and issue than before.
                          For the sake of keeping topics and solutions clean, please contiune in the new topic.

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