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What's coming in Cloudron 9

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  • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

    @girish said in What's coming in Cloudron 9:

    Also, still don't have an exact date for Cloudron 9 but the testing has been going on very well. I am hoping mid July we can publish the unstable.

    Hi Girish. How's it going?

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    @humptydumpty Getting there... Last week we landed the support for multiple backup destinations with independent backup schedules. Backups also now link internally to the backup destination. This way, if you delete a backup destination, it's clear that Cloudron has lost track of backups that were made in that destination i.e those backup entries are removed and are not listed in the UI (unlike now where they linger but it's actually not possible to restore).

    Currently, working on adding integrity checks and better progress. With that we are done.

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      @girish 👏👏👏💪💪

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        An update on backup integrity: integrity information is now stored in .backupinfo files in the remote along side the backups . The file contains sha256 of the backup . For tgz, it's a single hash. For rsync, it contains individual hashes. Further, the backupinfo file is signed using a private key and the signature is stored in Cloudron database. Using this setup, we can verify the authenticity and integrity of backupinfo file (i.e it was created by the Cloudron backup system and was not altered) and we can also check the backups itself are not corrupt using the sha256.

        While implementing this, I have also added fileCount and size to each of the backup entries. So, you can get an idea of how many files are in the backup and the total aggregated size of an individual backup.

        Currently, working on the integrity verifier i.e you can click some button to say "Check integrity" and it will verify the integrity of the backup. This is a bit complicated because you have to download the backup to check the integrity...

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        • girishG girish

          An update on backup integrity: integrity information is now stored in .backupinfo files in the remote along side the backups . The file contains sha256 of the backup . For tgz, it's a single hash. For rsync, it contains individual hashes. Further, the backupinfo file is signed using a private key and the signature is stored in Cloudron database. Using this setup, we can verify the authenticity and integrity of backupinfo file (i.e it was created by the Cloudron backup system and was not altered) and we can also check the backups itself are not corrupt using the sha256.

          While implementing this, I have also added fileCount and size to each of the backup entries. So, you can get an idea of how many files are in the backup and the total aggregated size of an individual backup.

          Currently, working on the integrity verifier i.e you can click some button to say "Check integrity" and it will verify the integrity of the backup. This is a bit complicated because you have to download the backup to check the integrity...

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          @girish Well done! This is an additional layer of security.

          We can't wait for the test results and the update rollout 👏💪

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          • girishG girish

            An update on backup integrity: integrity information is now stored in .backupinfo files in the remote along side the backups . The file contains sha256 of the backup . For tgz, it's a single hash. For rsync, it contains individual hashes. Further, the backupinfo file is signed using a private key and the signature is stored in Cloudron database. Using this setup, we can verify the authenticity and integrity of backupinfo file (i.e it was created by the Cloudron backup system and was not altered) and we can also check the backups itself are not corrupt using the sha256.

            While implementing this, I have also added fileCount and size to each of the backup entries. So, you can get an idea of how many files are in the backup and the total aggregated size of an individual backup.

            Currently, working on the integrity verifier i.e you can click some button to say "Check integrity" and it will verify the integrity of the backup. This is a bit complicated because you have to download the backup to check the integrity...

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            @girish said in What's coming in Cloudron 9:

            This is a bit complicated because you have to download the backup to check the integrity...

            Why not have a simpler level 1 integrity light check that is online only, with the file sizes and any files one doesn't need to download for example.

            The level 2 deep check is to download and sift through all files.

            Conscious tech

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              Level 1 sounds better for our 400GB Nextclouds... 🙂

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              • girishG girish

                An update on backup integrity: integrity information is now stored in .backupinfo files in the remote along side the backups . The file contains sha256 of the backup . For tgz, it's a single hash. For rsync, it contains individual hashes. Further, the backupinfo file is signed using a private key and the signature is stored in Cloudron database. Using this setup, we can verify the authenticity and integrity of backupinfo file (i.e it was created by the Cloudron backup system and was not altered) and we can also check the backups itself are not corrupt using the sha256.

                While implementing this, I have also added fileCount and size to each of the backup entries. So, you can get an idea of how many files are in the backup and the total aggregated size of an individual backup.

                Currently, working on the integrity verifier i.e you can click some button to say "Check integrity" and it will verify the integrity of the backup. This is a bit complicated because you have to download the backup to check the integrity...

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                @girish said in What's coming in Cloudron 9:

                This is a bit complicated because you have to download the backup to check the integrity...

                @robi said in What's coming in Cloudron 9:

                Why not have a simpler level 1 integrity light check that is online only, with the file sizes and any files one doesn't need to download for example.

                Yeah, couldn't Level 1 "Check integrity" just essentially be "do the hashes match"? (although presumably they always will otherwise the backup wouldn't be marked as having successfully completed? 🤷 )

                And a Level 2 "Full Integrity Check" (this will take a Long Time as it requires downloading the full back-up to ensure..."

                🤷

                Either way, all sounds like great progress, thanks!

                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                  The idea was to check for bitrot and give a good feel about the backup. Just checking the sizes doesn't mean much. AFAIK, file metadata is also stored in different sectors of the disk compared to the real data. So accessing file sizes and them matching doesn't mean much. (For tgz, there is also only one file size to check).

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                    Hello @girish ,

                    May I kindly ask when version 9 is expected to be released?

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                      Hello @girish ,

                      May I kindly ask when version 9 is expected to be released?

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                      @CBCUN Any minute now..
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