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  • philkunzP Offline
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    philkunz
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    As a consequence I think, two things should be changed:

    1. Create a working container first before deleting the old one.
    2. Verify backups automatically after creating them.
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      Otherwise this can end in a true shit show if someone relies on backups that are not working.

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        Hello @philkunz
        Really sorry to read that you had such an unpleasant experience with the backup and restore process.
        In Cloudron 9 the whole backup and restore process was overhauled with more integrity checks which should also minimize some of the issue you had here.

        @philkunz said in Restoring Backups fails:

        Why is the cloudron cli required for decrypting backups? It should be standard and documented. Am I missing something?

        Here is the documentation: https://docs.cloudron.io/guides/decrypt-backups/

        Can you maybe download the older backup that did not work and try to decrypt it locally?


        Regarding the unmounting exists mount and remounting.
        This can also be an issue related to your backup provider.

        @philkunz said in Restoring Backups fails:

        Clicking the Remount Storage button meanwhile works without any error?

        Would have been good to see what the box.log wrote when this happened.

        @philkunz said in Restoring Backups fails:

        Create a working container first before deleting the old one.

        I understand your sentiment, in the meanwhile, if you want to be extra careful, you can clone the app from a backup to ensure everything is working.

        @philkunz said in Restoring Backups fails:

        Verify backups automatically after creating them.

        This is done in Cloudron 9

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        • philkunzP philkunz

          Seems like other people had the same problem before. For me everything runs on Zen 4c infra with ecc, zfs... It for sure is not hardware related. Backups worked until a few days ago. Something must have happened on cloudron's die, weird race condition, something. This needs checking, and backups need to be tested every single time automatically by cloudron to find the pattern and cause. It can't be that a tar is corrupted. If the source is corrupted, the tar should still be ok by itself.

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          @philkunz said in Restoring Backups fails:

          Seems like other people had the same problem before. For me everything runs on Zen 4c infra with ecc, zfs...

          Is ZFS supported now?

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            zfs is on the host. cloudron uses non-cow inside the vm.

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              cloudron_tarExtract_Pipeline error.png

              Experiencing the same issue with CIFS mounts. Creating backups work seamlessly. When you go to restore it attempts to restore a small subset of files 3 times before displaying the error. I noticed when I go to restore the app it doesn't prompt for an encryption password, perhaps an internal issue with storing of the encryption hash?

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                cloudron_tarExtract_Pipeline error.png

                Experiencing the same issue with CIFS mounts. Creating backups work seamlessly. When you go to restore it attempts to restore a small subset of files 3 times before displaying the error. I noticed when I go to restore the app it doesn't prompt for an encryption password, perhaps an internal issue with storing of the encryption hash?

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                @dylightful Which provider are you using to backup files? What version of Cloudron are you using?

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                  @dylightful Which provider are you using to backup files? What version of Cloudron are you using?

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                  @p44

                  CIFS Mount to storage provider - Version 9.0.13

                  Backups work fine, restoration gives the above error.

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                    @dylightful the verification signature is now saved but there is no UI yet .

                    Can you check if you have a .backupinfo file next to your .tar.gz ? Inside .backupinfo there will be a sha256 checksum. Can you check if sha256 sum matches with the .tar.gz file ?

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                      @p44

                      CIFS Mount to storage provider - Version 9.0.13

                      Backups work fine, restoration gives the above error.

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                      @dylightfu That is the main problem.... the restoration, not the backup... Can you give us storage provider company name?

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                        @dylightfu That is the main problem.... the restoration, not the backup... Can you give us storage provider company name?

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                        @p44

                        It is to a self hosted SAN

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                          @dylightful if there's a setup where we can debug, would be great since we are unable to reproduce it .

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                            @p44

                            It is to a self hosted SAN

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                            @dylightful ok. it could be useful to follow @joseph advice, to try to reproduce issue...

                            I had the same problem with Hetzner Storage Box via CIFS mount...

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                              @dylightful ok. it could be useful to follow @joseph advice, to try to reproduce issue...

                              I had the same problem with Hetzner Storage Box via CIFS mount...

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                              @p44 tried hetzner now too. Same issue - backups fine, unable to restore (20GB LAMP stack)

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                                @p44 tried hetzner now too. Same issue - backups fine, unable to restore (20GB LAMP stack)

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                                @dylightful Please share logs or other infos with @joseph so we can finally understand what’s going on... this is a very important problem to understand ASAP. I had this problem too.

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                                  @dylightful Please share logs or other infos with @joseph so we can finally understand what’s going on... this is a very important problem to understand ASAP. I had this problem too.

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                                    Log file for @joseph

                                    It displays this error 3 times

                                    Dec 16 00:01:24 box:backupformat/tgz Attempt 2 failed. Will retry: tarExtract pipeline error: invalid stored block lengths
                                    

                                    After the 3rd time, it times out and fails with

                                    Dec 16 00:01:49 box:apptask run: app error for state pending_restore: BoxError: tarExtract pipeline error: invalid stored block lengths at tarExtract (/home/yellowtent/box/src/backupformat/tgz.js:231:26) at process.processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:105:5) at async /home/yellowtent/box/src/backupformat/tgz.js:252:9 at async promiseRetry (/home/yellowtent/box/src/promise-retry.js:17:20) at async Object.download (/home/yellowtent/box/src/backupformat/tgz.js:248:5) at async download (/home/yellowtent/box/src/backuptask.js:129:5) at async Object.downloadApp (/home/yellowtent/box/src/backuptask.js:169:5) at async installCommand (/home/yellowtent/box/src/apptask.js:350:9) { reason: 'External Error', details: {} }
                                    Dec 16 00:01:49 box:tasks setCompleted - 21001: {"result":null,"error":{"message":"tarExtract pipeline error: invalid stored block lengths","reason":"External Error"},"percent":100}
                                    Dec 16 00:01:49 box:tasks updating task 21001 with: {"completed":true,"result":null,"error":{"message":"tarExtract pipeline error: invalid stored block lengths","reason":"External Error"},"percent":100}
                                    Dec 16 00:01:49 box:taskworker Task took 57.836 seconds
                                    Dec 16 00:01:49 BoxError: tarExtract pipeline error: invalid stored block lengths
                                    Dec 16 00:01:49 at tarExtract (/home/yellowtent/box/src/backupformat/tgz.js:231:26)
                                    Dec 16 00:01:49 at process.processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:105:5)
                                    Dec 16 00:01:49 at async /home/yellowtent/box/src/backupformat/tgz.js:252:9
                                    Dec 16 00:01:49 at async promiseRetry (/home/yellowtent/box/src/promise-retry.js:17:20)
                                    Dec 16 00:01:49 at async Object.download (/home/yellowtent/box/src/backupformat/tgz.js:248:5)
                                    Dec 16 00:01:49 at async download (/home/yellowtent/box/src/backuptask.js:129:5)
                                    Dec 16 00:01:49 at async Object.downloadApp (/home/yellowtent/box/src/backuptask.js:169:5)
                                    Dec 16 00:01:49 at async installCommand (/home/yellowtent/box/src/apptask.js:350:9)
                                    Dec 16 00:01:49 Exiting with code 0
                                    
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                                      @dylightful If we can have access to your setup, can you write to me at support@cloudron.io ? Would love to debug and figure out why it's failing . Is this reproducible easily - meaning if you take a backup and restore, it fails?

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