Cloudron won't update - No backup site for update

[swheeler78]

@joseph Thanks. That was it. I had a backup setup and working but even when I told it to skip backup on the upgrade it still gave me an error. Had to check the box for storing automatic backups even though I chose to skip the backup.

[goseph10]

Same problem for me but i don't have a Backup set up at all.
"Skip Backup" does nothing and does not let me update. Can you please fix that?

And i don't need a backup since i use Proxmox Backup Server.

[girish]

@goseph10 that was a bug. I have fixed this in https://git.cloudron.io/platform/box/-/commit/1594d190eb29071c0aa11ff0a0e48554bb5fc04f

You can edit /home/yellowtent/box/src/updater.js and fix line 229:

    if (!options.skipBackup && sites.length === 0) throw new BoxError(BoxError.BAD_STATE, 'No backup site is enabled to store automatic-update backups. Enable this in a backup site to continue.');

After that systemctl restart box

[potemkin_ai]

@girish , thanks! Is there an estimate which version will fix that?
"Next one" is fine for me

[potemkin_ai]

Cloudron 9.1.5 - seems to have the patch in place?

[joseph]

Yes, it's already 9.1.7 now

[potemkin_ai]

Thanks. Since missing backup blocks automatic updates, platform update get blocked as well...

[potemkin_ai]

I'm still getting this error... =/

[nebulon]

can you double check if any of your configured backup sites have that app included and also have set the checkbox to use for automatic updates?

[potemkin_ai]

ahm... there are no backup sites...

[nebulon]

that would explain it, then you have to first add a backup site. Any auto-update will only work if a backup can be made.

[potemkin_ai]

but I don't need a backup for that site... any way to specify some kind of /dev/null for such a case?

[robi]

@potemkin_ai you try local?

[potemkin_ai]

apart from the fact that it's not needed - there is not enough space for that

[nebulon]

So Cloudron will always require a backup for auto-updates, there is no way to skip that unless you update manually.

[potemkin_ai]

Ok... it's a pity thought...

[goseph10]

@potemkin_ai Idea: Use Amazon S3 Glacier Deep Archive. Its only 1$ per 1TB. Adds some more cheap Backup.

Or local should work, just exclude your Apps and only backup Cloudron. Its small.

[potemkin_ai]

@joseph , thank you! It's not that I don't have space (I have a few TBs idle) - it's that I don't need it.

Local won't work - because the server has not enough space for the local. And Amazon is only cheap, unless you really start to use it

[robi]

@potemkin_ai then install rustfs, minio, or seaweedfs on another Cloudron with space and do a backup. Easy peasy.

Even as a one time thing the demo server can help.

[potemkin_ai]

@robi like I’ve told - I do have where (few TBs served via S3).

It’s just that I do not need a backup for that.
Given that I can do update skipping the backup, an artificial limit on automatic backup is something I’m not clear about.