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  • marcusquinnM Offline
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    I have some potential significant sponsorship interest in this if we could assemble enough people to build.

    Also worth a look for inspiration: https://www.odoo.com/app/iot

    What do you all recommend as fanless boxes to base this sort of thing?

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    • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

      I have some potential significant sponsorship interest in this if we could assemble enough people to build.

      Also worth a look for inspiration: https://www.odoo.com/app/iot

      What do you all recommend as fanless boxes to base this sort of thing?

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      @marcusquinn there's a ton out there. I bet it could be cheaper if you had a contract for bulk and care less about looks.

      https://www.amazon.com/Beelink-i5-5257u-Processor-Computer-Ethernet/dp/B08B3ZNPYZ/ref=zg_bs_13896591011_5?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=BDN24M5G51WTJ57RX0N5

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        Recent project doing something similar. I am wondering however how they really want to make this effortless for everybody. Especially since this centers on nextcloud.

        https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nextbox/nextbox-your-own-private-cloud-for-home-and-office

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        • M Mastadamus

          @marcusquinn there's a ton out there. I bet it could be cheaper if you had a contract for bulk and care less about looks.

          https://www.amazon.com/Beelink-i5-5257u-Processor-Computer-Ethernet/dp/B08B3ZNPYZ/ref=zg_bs_13896591011_5?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=BDN24M5G51WTJ57RX0N5

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          @mastadamus Nice, of course I should have searched first but wondered what people here used. I suppose anything could be co-branded with some laser etching.

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          • fbartelsF fbartels

            Recent project doing something similar. I am wondering however how they really want to make this effortless for everybody. Especially since this centers on nextcloud.

            https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nextbox/nextbox-your-own-private-cloud-for-home-and-office

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            @fbartels Interesting, although to go mass market they could do with some work on their branding and presentation.

            Roku completely nails branding and presentation, and Sky TV / Now TV are the kings of branding and packaging in the UK.

            I feel as a Consumer / Pro appliance it would need a little more curation on the apps where the best for each area were pre-configured, and there would need to be preferred partners setup for certain links (Domain/DNS/Backups) but I could see this being packaged as a box that people put alongside their main TV in homes and in their IT cupboard in offices.

            @Mastadamus Maybe we can coin a new phrase: "cloud-cutters" 🙂

            @girish @nebulon I do think the term "Private Cloud" should be used as the primary explanatory catch-phrase across your branding and presentation, and make "Self-Hosting" secondary because that is a little more intimidating.

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            • fbartelsF fbartels

              @mastadamus said in Develop and sell a "roku" like cloudron box.:

              and maybe forwarding a port or two would be golden

              Don't forget that more and more residential internet connections don't get a public ip any more (keyword cgnat). Plus forwarding ports can still be quite a challenge for the technically challenged. If you want to make it easy for everyone you would need some sort of proxying service that would provide a public endpoint for these users.

              @mastadamus said in Develop and sell a "roku" like cloudron box.:

              My home hosted cloudron actually gets 'attacked' multiple times daily

              That is most likely the usual background chatter that will happen once you expose a service to the public internet. Could as well be mitigated if you don't expose directly, but only through a third party.

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              @fbartels said in Develop and sell a "roku" like cloudron box.:

              keyword cgnat

              Carrier-grade NAT - Wikipedia
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier-grade_NAT

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              • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                @fbartels Interesting, although to go mass market they could do with some work on their branding and presentation.

                Roku completely nails branding and presentation, and Sky TV / Now TV are the kings of branding and packaging in the UK.

                I feel as a Consumer / Pro appliance it would need a little more curation on the apps where the best for each area were pre-configured, and there would need to be preferred partners setup for certain links (Domain/DNS/Backups) but I could see this being packaged as a box that people put alongside their main TV in homes and in their IT cupboard in offices.

                @Mastadamus Maybe we can coin a new phrase: "cloud-cutters" 🙂

                @girish @nebulon I do think the term "Private Cloud" should be used as the primary explanatory catch-phrase across your branding and presentation, and make "Self-Hosting" secondary because that is a little more intimidating.

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                @marcusquinn I agree emphasizing "Private Cloud" is a very good idea, everybody can get a feel for what it is, even if they have no idea of how.

                I mean, the general public doesn't even know what hosting is.^^"

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                  So this is something that I have been contemplating for about a month now.

                  My thoughts are this, you get a Nuc that supports Vtx/vtd and then you install proxmox on the device. Then set up opnsense as one vm, and cloudron as another.

                  Then do all the heavy lifting for the user ( could be a templates image installed to make this process much faster) and make it so they just have to plug and play and use the service.

                  An additional income stream could be a subscription based support level

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                  • P privsec

                    So this is something that I have been contemplating for about a month now.

                    My thoughts are this, you get a Nuc that supports Vtx/vtd and then you install proxmox on the device. Then set up opnsense as one vm, and cloudron as another.

                    Then do all the heavy lifting for the user ( could be a templates image installed to make this process much faster) and make it so they just have to plug and play and use the service.

                    An additional income stream could be a subscription based support level

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                    @privsec not bad, I do something similar with ESXi and ZeroShell

                    Conscious tech

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                      Here's a similar idea that has the hardware part mostly figured out:

                      https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox

                      https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/Hardware

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