What's coming in Cloudron 6.3
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@imc67 I definitely agree, lots of areas for improvements.
I do have one item of your post I wanted to share my two cents on though...
Wordfence imho needs to be installed by default in Wordpress
This is just my personal view so take it with a grain of salt of course, I don't think there's really any right or wrong way to it. My two cents...
I have the belief that we should aim to keep all apps (WordPress included) about as close to default as the developer intended for the app, leaving Cloudron to just handle the default user and mail config for the app, etc. I think it's a bit of a slippery slope to add in all these extras regardless of how important they may be for certain use-cases, because the line needs to be drawn somewhere of course and deciding where that line is isn't particularly clear. In such a case, I'd ere on the side of "keep it as close to default as possible as intended by the developer" to stay free of any tightrope walking so-to-speak. haha.
For WordPress in particular, there's practically hundreds of thousands of plugins available, some of which are "default installs" in my environments where I have a template setup with the ones I use all the time for example, but I would never want to force my defaults on others because what works for me or the plugins I prefer to use may not work or be preferred by other users. Security plugins are one area where there's a ton of them, and there was a similar discussion not too long ago I had regarding a suggestion for including a caching plugin by default too.
And that's kind of the slippery slope I am referring too... what is the criteria for when a "default plugin suggestion" gets approved, and when would one get denied?
I just really want to see apps be as close to default as possible. But of course that's just my two cents. I'm sure many might disagree with me. haha.
I totally agree with the rest of your suggestions though, I would love to see the improvements for additional security in the Cloudron server itself. I completely forgot about the GEO-blocking request for countries, that'd be pretty great to have!
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@girish said in What's coming in Cloudron 6.3:
As a pre-requisite for Cloudron 7 multi-host feature, we have to move file system data into the database. Much grunt work to be done here.
I am not sure I understand what you mean by that. Could you expand a bit on this please?
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@d19dotca said in What's coming in Cloudron 6.3:
I totally agree with the rest of your suggestions
it wasn’t my intention at all to suggest to add Wordfence by default in the Cloudron package as indeed everyone has to decide themselves. Personally I install it in every Wordpress site I manage. -
Great you're spending time on notifications and email!
I like the idea of a centralized place where you can configure which type of notifications you get(Platform update available/completed, app update available/completed, app error, backup error/completed, etc.), and where(email, dashboard, webhook, etc.).
A bit like Facebook, Twitter have.
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@imc67 said in What's coming in Cloudron 6.3:
it wasn’t my intention at all to suggest to add Wordfence by default in the Cloudron package as indeed everyone has to decide themselves. Personally I install it in every Wordpress site I manage.Oh my bad, sorry I misunderstood the intention there.
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@girish said in What's coming in Cloudron 6.3:
Fix email situation for Go apps like Statping, Commento that are having trouble sending mails via our email server.
our patch got merged upstream for this - https://github.com/haraka/Haraka/pull/2940
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@girish said in What's coming in Cloudron 6.3:
@girish said in What's coming in Cloudron 6.3:
Make email setup inside apps optional. This will make it possible to configure specific apps to use some external service for mail delivery directly and the Cloudron package won't touch their mail settings.
This one is implemented now in the Email view. The app package has to explicitly say whether it supports this feature or not using the
optionalflag to thesendmailaddon.
@girish In 6.2.7 update this should already be implemented, right? I thought I read it in the changelog.
However I have not yet seen this option in the applications.
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Just wanted to check in and see how 6.3 is coming along.
Any ETA by chance? I'm super excited for these email improvements many of us have been requesting, particularly the DNSBL checks; greylisting; blocklist & whitelist auto-updating/DNSWL; email autoexpunge; and not forwarding spam to mailing lists. I know that's a lot, lol.
I know many of them came from me, haha, so if you want to discuss any of them or want clarification on the requests, I'd be happy to help offer guidance or clarification.
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@d19dotca Thanks for checking
We haven't gotten to the email part yet. I am fixing up the notification issues. Once I do that, I want to look into the wireguard/VPN thing before I get into email. @nebulon is working on the login history and I think that is mostly done. He is also working on the volume mounting (i.e will automatically setup fstab entries).I don't have an ETA, will have a better idea next week. It's been a bit slow this week. I had my pfeizer vaccine, yay and now the sideeffects are gone, so I can go back to being productive
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I'm waiting like gold for this update, especially because Cloudron Mail is changing Mautic email configuration all time.
The Amazon SES-API and queue configuration that I have within Mautic is misconfigured every time the application restarts, updates, recovers ... it's frustrating.
