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  • girishG girish

    @doodlemania2 To continue the discussion from the other thread about the TURN server requirements.

    Per https://markus-blog.de/index.php/2020/07/30/how-to-install-nextcloud-talk-high-performance-backend-with-stun-turnserver-on-ubuntu/, the turnserver only requires a static-auth-secret and that is already set in existing turn server. I guess you are referring to the turn_rest_api_key in the janus configs? That secret is generated and shared between janus and nextcloud-spreed-signaling server from what I can understand. I think the existing turn service should work as-is.

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    @girish oh no! i'm so sorry to have held us all up so long 😞
    okay - let me re-start my efforts and will study it more closely in addition to @oj 's and others suggestions to look at a prebuilt docker for inspiration.

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    • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

      @girish oh no! i'm so sorry to have held us all up so long 😞
      okay - let me re-start my efforts and will study it more closely in addition to @oj 's and others suggestions to look at a prebuilt docker for inspiration.

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      @doodlemania2 said in Nextcloud Talk high-performance back-end:

      okay - let me re-start my efforts and will study it more closely in addition to @oj 's and others suggestions to look at a prebuilt docker for inspiration.

      Did you manage to have another look? Would be so great to have this! 🙂

      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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      • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

        @doodlemania2 said in Nextcloud Talk high-performance back-end:

        okay - let me re-start my efforts and will study it more closely in addition to @oj 's and others suggestions to look at a prebuilt docker for inspiration.

        Did you manage to have another look? Would be so great to have this! 🙂

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        @jdaviescoates 😞 I haven't yet and I feel really bad about it - work has been all consuming of late. It's literally at the top of my list, just haven't had a chance! I promise more soon fast as I can!

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        • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

          @jdaviescoates 😞 I haven't yet and I feel really bad about it - work has been all consuming of late. It's literally at the top of my list, just haven't had a chance! I promise more soon fast as I can!

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          @doodlemania2 don't feel bad about it! 🙂

          But also, great, thanks!

          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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          • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

            @doodlemania2 don't feel bad about it! 🙂

            But also, great, thanks!

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            @jdaviescoates I've been trying to get this to work but it just doesn't (based on the docker-compose example). I've reached out to the author of the blog to see if he can assist!

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            • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

              @jdaviescoates I've been trying to get this to work but it just doesn't (based on the docker-compose example). I've reached out to the author of the blog to see if he can assist!

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              this is ready for testing - please send me a DM if you'd like to try it out!

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              • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

                this is ready for testing - please send me a DM if you'd like to try it out!

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                girish
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                @doodlemania2 great news! Is https://git.cloudron.io/doodlemania2/nthpbe still the latest repo because it says the commits are from 9 months ago.

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                • girishG girish

                  @doodlemania2 great news! Is https://git.cloudron.io/doodlemania2/nthpbe still the latest repo because it says the commits are from 9 months ago.

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                  @girish we can delete that repo actually - instead of creating a fully packaged cloudron custom app, I decided to offer this to the cloudron community for free* from my VPSs.

                  *standard "be nice folks" or I turn it off 😉

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                  • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

                    @girish we can delete that repo actually - instead of creating a fully packaged cloudron custom app, I decided to offer this to the cloudron community for free* from my VPSs.

                    *standard "be nice folks" or I turn it off 😉

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                    @girish - i'm really embarassed it took that long (9 months!!!)

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                    • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

                      @girish we can delete that repo actually - instead of creating a fully packaged cloudron custom app, I decided to offer this to the cloudron community for free* from my VPSs.

                      *standard "be nice folks" or I turn it off 😉

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                      @doodlemania2 that's very kind of you!

                      But it'd still be great to have an app too. Was it just too difficult to package or something?

                      Thanks for all your efforts! 🙂

                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                      • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                        @doodlemania2 that's very kind of you!

                        But it'd still be great to have an app too. Was it just too difficult to package or something?

                        Thanks for all your efforts! 🙂

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                        @jdaviescoates like comical... way too many moving parts

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                        • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

                          @jdaviescoates I've been trying to get this to work but it just doesn't (based on the docker-compose example). I've reached out to the author of the blog to see if he can assist!

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                          @doodlemania2 Are you still sharing access to the Nextcloud Talk high-performance back-end that you have created? If so, how may I contact you to test it?

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                          • coniunctioC coniunctio

                            @doodlemania2 Are you still sharing access to the Nextcloud Talk high-performance back-end that you have created? If so, how may I contact you to test it?

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                            @coniunctio Pinged you on DM!

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                              I would realy love to see this happening as HPB is a gamechanger for bigger nextclouds. @doodlemania2 do you think that looking into https://github.com/deeztek/deeztek-docker/tree/master/Linux/nextcloud-spreed-signaling might help you with your packageing?

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                              • M m-si

                                I would realy love to see this happening as HPB is a gamechanger for bigger nextclouds. @doodlemania2 do you think that looking into https://github.com/deeztek/deeztek-docker/tree/master/Linux/nextcloud-spreed-signaling might help you with your packageing?

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                                @m-si someone may find a way to package it, however, I've found it to be much easier to run a dedicated set of servers for NTHPBE. I offer it to clients for a pretty low fee in either US or DE if you are at all interested.

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                                  hi all, to bring up something from long ago, is there any chance this may pop up?

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                                  • M mudassar

                                    hi all, to bring up something from long ago, is there any chance this may pop up?

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                                    @mudassar still offering the service for users - ping me on DM if interested.

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                                      I'm just wondering in light of the Jitsi situation (i.e. hard to update), whether it might be worth reviving this thread starting with the package @doodlemania2 made? Or if any other video call app might be simpler to package and maintain on Cloudron (e.g. @Kubernetes made an initial package for MiroTalk but I've got no clue how it compares with Jitsi or NC talk)

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                                      • avatar1024A avatar1024

                                        I'm just wondering in light of the Jitsi situation (i.e. hard to update), whether it might be worth reviving this thread starting with the package @doodlemania2 made? Or if any other video call app might be simpler to package and maintain on Cloudron (e.g. @Kubernetes made an initial package for MiroTalk but I've got no clue how it compares with Jitsi or NC talk)

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                                        @avatar1024 said in Nextcloud Talk high-performance back-end:

                                        I'm just wondering in light of the Jitsi situation (i.e. hard to update), whether it might be worth reviving this thread starting with the package @doodlemania2 made? Or if any other video call app might be simpler to package and maintain on Cloudron (e.g. @Kubernetes made an initial package for MiroTalk but I've got no clue how it compares with Jitsi or NC talk)

                                        For everyone who wants to host it themselves without too much hassle, I have been successfully using this build on a standalone server for some months now: https://github.com/sunweaver/nextcloud-high-performance-backend-setup

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                                        • andreasduerenA andreasdueren

                                          @avatar1024 said in Nextcloud Talk high-performance back-end:

                                          I'm just wondering in light of the Jitsi situation (i.e. hard to update), whether it might be worth reviving this thread starting with the package @doodlemania2 made? Or if any other video call app might be simpler to package and maintain on Cloudron (e.g. @Kubernetes made an initial package for MiroTalk but I've got no clue how it compares with Jitsi or NC talk)

                                          For everyone who wants to host it themselves without too much hassle, I have been successfully using this build on a standalone server for some months now: https://github.com/sunweaver/nextcloud-high-performance-backend-setup

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                                          @andreasdueren Aaah, fantastic! Thank you for sharing this repo. It was literal child's play building the HA server with that.

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