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Backup failing (flaky CIFS mount)

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  • I iqweb

    @p44 said in Backup failing:

    @robi right suggestions.

    @girish I had this problem again: all backup folder this morning where unmounted...

    I've had the same thing again too

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    @iqweb Still on Hetzner storage?

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    • girishG girish

      @iqweb Are you also using CIFS/NFS?

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      @girish said in Backup failing:

      @iqweb Are you also using CIFS/NFS?

      Yes - storage provider: CIFS Mount

      @p44 said in Backup failing:

      @iqweb Still on Hetzner storage?

      Yes - Hetzner storage box

      & again - I had to reboot to be able to remount.

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      • I iqweb

        @girish said in Backup failing:

        @iqweb Are you also using CIFS/NFS?

        Yes - storage provider: CIFS Mount

        @p44 said in Backup failing:

        @iqweb Still on Hetzner storage?

        Yes - Hetzner storage box

        & again - I had to reboot to be able to remount.

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        @iqweb Maybe Hetzner sometimes reboot Box instance? From my side is about one week CIFS mount is stable...

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          I also have to remount my cifs share about once a month. In my case I thought it was related to my residential home internet connection. Either way I think we have to handle such mount points better and maybe even attempt a remount automatically.

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          • nebulonN nebulon

            I also have to remount my cifs share about once a month. In my case I thought it was related to my residential home internet connection. Either way I think we have to handle such mount points better and maybe even attempt a remount automatically.

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            @nebulon Good idea to add a health-check to keep alive mounting

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            • nebulonN nebulon

              I also have to remount my cifs share about once a month. In my case I thought it was related to my residential home internet connection. Either way I think we have to handle such mount points better and maybe even attempt a remount automatically.

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              @nebulon Does cifs mounting have some retry flags? (i.e the fstab options)

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              • girishG girish

                @nebulon Does cifs mounting have some retry flags? (i.e the fstab options)

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                @girish not that I have found and https://linux.die.net/man/8/mount.cifs does not mention anything.

                Apparently systemd has some automounting feature https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.automount.html which mounts the drive once the mountpoint is accessed by a process! Can't tell if it would reconnect such a mount though.

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                • nebulonN nebulon

                  @girish not that I have found and https://linux.die.net/man/8/mount.cifs does not mention anything.

                  Apparently systemd has some automounting feature https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.automount.html which mounts the drive once the mountpoint is accessed by a process! Can't tell if it would reconnect such a mount though.

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                  @nebulon Maybe https://askubuntu.com/questions/1210867/remount-cifs-on-network-reconnect ? (just expands on your link)

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                  • girishG girish

                    @nebulon Maybe https://askubuntu.com/questions/1210867/remount-cifs-on-network-reconnect ? (just expands on your link)

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                    @girish & @nebulon any news on this issue?

                    I started yesterday to backup via cifs to a Hetzner storagebox (2 backups a day), today the first backup failed due to

                    Command failed with exit code 1 (EPERM): df -kPT /backups_cifs
                    

                    I solved it with a manual:

                    sudo umount /backups_cifs
                    sudo mount -a
                    

                    But do I need to script this with a daily cron or is Cloudron able to recover from this somehow?

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                    • imc67I imc67

                      @girish & @nebulon any news on this issue?

                      I started yesterday to backup via cifs to a Hetzner storagebox (2 backups a day), today the first backup failed due to

                      Command failed with exit code 1 (EPERM): df -kPT /backups_cifs
                      

                      I solved it with a manual:

                      sudo umount /backups_cifs
                      sudo mount -a
                      

                      But do I need to script this with a daily cron or is Cloudron able to recover from this somehow?

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                      @imc67 Dear, this happened because Hetzner did some maintenance on their Box Service.

                      Also a Cloudron restart solved problem.

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                      • P p44

                        @imc67 Dear, this happened because Hetzner did some maintenance on their Box Service.

                        Also a Cloudron restart solved problem.

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                        @p44 actually I hit the same thing today morning, had to remount the disk. I happily ignored the heads up warning email about the maintenance from hetzner 😉

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                        • nebulonN nebulon

                          @p44 actually I hit the same thing today morning, had to remount the disk. I happily ignored the heads up warning email about the maintenance from hetzner 😉

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                          @nebulon Yes, but not all my Cloudron installs has been affected, even if attached at the same Hetzner Box... Just restarted and all was operational again 🙂

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                          • P p44

                            @nebulon Yes, but not all my Cloudron installs has been affected, even if attached at the same Hetzner Box... Just restarted and all was operational again 🙂

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                            @p44 in such cases a remount alone would be enough, no need to reboot the whole server, if that is what you did. This would then not affect downtime. We will soon implement auto-remounting in such cases.

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                            • nebulonN nebulon

                              @p44 in such cases a remount alone would be enough, no need to reboot the whole server, if that is what you did. This would then not affect downtime. We will soon implement auto-remounting in such cases.

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                              @nebulon Yes before rebooting I tried to umount-remount but it seems it has been impossible due to an error... So I decided to restart.

                              About auto-remounting it will be an amazing feature

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