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Outline - a Notion-like open source app

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  • klawitterbK klawitterb

    @jdaviescoates I've got this running using dex serving as a connection between oidc and cloudron ldap. Works pretty well.
    If you're interested you can find the code in my repo https://git.apehost.de/cloudron-apps/outline

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    jdaviescoates
    wrote on last edited by
    #78

    @klawitterb that's great, thanks! But I wanna get Outline in the App Store.

    Hopefully @staff can take a look at both these custom Outline packages and do whatever needs doing to get them into the store 🙂

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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      #79

      Perhaps AppFlowy can offer an alternative in the meantime?

      • https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/6088/appflowy

      Local installers available:

      • https://appflowy.gitbook.io/docs/essential-documentation/install-appflowy/installation-methods

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        #80

        Outline is paid, it is better to add a free plan also.
        There are also free and open source notion alternatives like Logseq or focalboard which can be checked here

        https://developingdaily.com/article/technology/best-notion-alternatives-open-source-and-free/314

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          #81

          And Documize: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/7116/documize-alternative-to-confluence

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          • Vikas-jkV Vikas-jk

            Outline is paid, it is better to add a free plan also.
            There are also free and open source notion alternatives like Logseq or focalboard which can be checked here

            https://developingdaily.com/article/technology/best-notion-alternatives-open-source-and-free/314

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            jdaviescoates
            wrote on last edited by
            #82

            @Vikas-jk said in Outline - a Notion-like open source app:

            Outline is paid, it is better to add a free plan also.
            There are also free and open source notion alternatives like Logseq or focalboard which can be checked here

            https://developingdaily.com/article/technology/best-notion-alternatives-open-source-and-free/314

            Hosted Outline is paid, that doesn't apply to self-hosted. Outline is also free (as in freedom) open source software too.

            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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              #83

              Update available: Outline v0.65.2

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                wrote on last edited by
                #84

                This also looks very good:

                https://docs.codex.so/codex-docs

                Upvote here:

                https://forum.cloudron.io/post/53468

                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                  wrote on last edited by nj
                  #85

                  There is an update for the latest version v0.66.3
                  I forgot to put it here earlier.

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                  • njN nj

                    There is an update for the latest version v0.66.3
                    I forgot to put it here earlier.

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                    #86

                    @nj thanks!

                    @staff would be wonderful if this could be added to the App Store?

                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                    • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                      @nj thanks!

                      @staff would be wonderful if this could be added to the App Store?

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                      #87

                      The implementation of https://git.apehost.de/cloudron-apps/outline seems to be working. Is there some plan to publish it in the store? @staff

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                      • matbrgzM matbrgz

                        The implementation of https://git.apehost.de/cloudron-apps/outline seems to be working. Is there some plan to publish it in the store? @staff

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                        #88

                        @matbrgz don't see why not, we will take a look shortly. Thanks for packging this!

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                        • girishG girish

                          @matbrgz don't see why not, we will take a look shortly. Thanks for packging this!

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                          matbrgz
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                          #89

                          @girish sorry to bother you again about this, could you please take a look here? This app is vital to my company.

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                          • matbrgzM matbrgz

                            @girish sorry to bother you again about this, could you please take a look here? This app is vital to my company.

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                            jdaviescoates
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                            @matbrgz said in Outline - a Notion-like open source app:

                            @girish sorry to bother you again about this, could you please take a look here? This app is vital to my company.

                            And not just you either, it's the second most upvoted app request on the wishlist after Wireguard VPN. Be great to have it on Cloudron!

                            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                              Yup, @vladimir-d is looking into this next week.

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                                #92

                                So after investigation, the situation is this:

                                • Outline does not support any local authentication i.e it has no local user database.
                                • The developers have indicated that there is possibly LDAP in the enterprise version of the product. I haven't tried that, so I don't know if it's there.
                                • Authentication can be done via Google/GitHub (?) and other external services.
                                • OpenID is supported

                                Current package is using dex to bridge OpenID connect and Cloudron LDAP. This can be difficult to migrate in the long run (and is also two really apps in one).

                                So, we can't provide Outline immediately. We are going to first add OpenID connect as an addon. We used to have OAuth before as addon that did not work out well. We will try this for 7.4.

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                                • girishG girish

                                  So after investigation, the situation is this:

                                  • Outline does not support any local authentication i.e it has no local user database.
                                  • The developers have indicated that there is possibly LDAP in the enterprise version of the product. I haven't tried that, so I don't know if it's there.
                                  • Authentication can be done via Google/GitHub (?) and other external services.
                                  • OpenID is supported

                                  Current package is using dex to bridge OpenID connect and Cloudron LDAP. This can be difficult to migrate in the long run (and is also two really apps in one).

                                  So, we can't provide Outline immediately. We are going to first add OpenID connect as an addon. We used to have OAuth before as addon that did not work out well. We will try this for 7.4.

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                                  #93

                                  @girish It has never been easy to run. I had it running once years ago using Google or Slack, all hand-rolled and installed, and had to use this super niche code tweak that anyone who ever found it once could never find it again.
                                  Just now I went over to the site to try to login with Slack... failed. I know this is a cool app, but I don't think it is going to be worth the hassle getting it to work. Focus on something else!

                                  A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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                                  • girishG girish

                                    So after investigation, the situation is this:

                                    • Outline does not support any local authentication i.e it has no local user database.
                                    • The developers have indicated that there is possibly LDAP in the enterprise version of the product. I haven't tried that, so I don't know if it's there.
                                    • Authentication can be done via Google/GitHub (?) and other external services.
                                    • OpenID is supported

                                    Current package is using dex to bridge OpenID connect and Cloudron LDAP. This can be difficult to migrate in the long run (and is also two really apps in one).

                                    So, we can't provide Outline immediately. We are going to first add OpenID connect as an addon. We used to have OAuth before as addon that did not work out well. We will try this for 7.4.

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                                    jdaviescoates
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #94

                                    @girish said in Outline - a Notion-like open source app:

                                    add OpenID connect as an addon

                                    Having OpenID Connect as an addon sounds great to me.

                                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                    • scookeS scooke

                                      @girish It has never been easy to run. I had it running once years ago using Google or Slack, all hand-rolled and installed, and had to use this super niche code tweak that anyone who ever found it once could never find it again.
                                      Just now I went over to the site to try to login with Slack... failed. I know this is a cool app, but I don't think it is going to be worth the hassle getting it to work. Focus on something else!

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                                      Staff
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                                      #95

                                      @scooke yeah, the upstream author has indicated that they won't accept changes not related to their SaaS. But maybe this has changed because they offer selfhosted plans. In any case, having OIDC in Cloudron won't hurt.

                                      Also, I think I remember seeing the one line patch you mentioned...

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                                      • girishG girish

                                        @scooke yeah, the upstream author has indicated that they won't accept changes not related to their SaaS. But maybe this has changed because they offer selfhosted plans. In any case, having OIDC in Cloudron won't hurt.

                                        Also, I think I remember seeing the one line patch you mentioned...

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                                        scooke
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #96

                                        @girish You've proba already seen it, but apparently Yunohost has this running. I'll check. Maybe their setup can help.

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                                        • scookeS scooke

                                          @girish You've proba already seen it, but apparently Yunohost has this running. I'll check. Maybe their setup can help.

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                                          girish
                                          Staff
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                                          @scooke We have it running on Cloudron as well. Just not sure if it's sustainable with the current authentication approach (dex -> cloudron ldap).

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