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Outline - a Notion-like open source app

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  • infogulchI infogulch

    Now that Cloudron adds authentication headers with the proxyAuth addon, maybe the easiest solution to integrate authentication is to use those headers in outline. I guess that might be as simple as adding a new file to the /server/routes/auth/providers dir. This would simplify the cloudron package because it wouldn't have to set up and run keycloak.

    https://github.com/outline/outline/tree/main/server/routes/auth/providers

    Then the only barrier to packaging for cloudron would be the hypothetical s3/minio addon mentioned above.

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    @infogulch I think that's doable. I'll see if I can get it working.

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      #75

      Update available: Outline v0.64.3

      PS: Still no time to look into auth using Cloudron ProxyAuth

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      • njN nj

        Update available: Outline v0.64.3

        PS: Still no time to look into auth using Cloudron ProxyAuth

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        @nj said in Outline - a Notion-like open source app:

        PS: Still no time to look into auth using Cloudron ProxyAuth

        πŸ™ praying that you'll find the time! Hopefully then @staff will be able to take it from from there get this app into the App Store! (perhaps they could take a look at adding the ProxyAuth too? πŸ™‚ πŸ™ )

        Edit: or perhaps another better/simpler(I've no idea if it's either, rieally! πŸ˜› ) option would be to connect the outline app to the Cloudron LDAP Directory Server https://docs.cloudron.io/user-management/#directory-server= ? πŸ™‚

        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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        • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

          @nj said in Outline - a Notion-like open source app:

          PS: Still no time to look into auth using Cloudron ProxyAuth

          πŸ™ praying that you'll find the time! Hopefully then @staff will be able to take it from from there get this app into the App Store! (perhaps they could take a look at adding the ProxyAuth too? πŸ™‚ πŸ™ )

          Edit: or perhaps another better/simpler(I've no idea if it's either, rieally! πŸ˜› ) option would be to connect the outline app to the Cloudron LDAP Directory Server https://docs.cloudron.io/user-management/#directory-server= ? πŸ™‚

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          @jdaviescoates I've got this running using dex serving as a connection between oidc and cloudron ldap. Works pretty well.
          If you're interested you can find the code in my repo https://git.apehost.de/cloudron-apps/outline

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          • klawitterbK klawitterb

            @jdaviescoates I've got this running using dex serving as a connection between oidc and cloudron ldap. Works pretty well.
            If you're interested you can find the code in my repo https://git.apehost.de/cloudron-apps/outline

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            #78

            @klawitterb that's great, thanks! But I wanna get Outline in the App Store.

            Hopefully @staff can take a look at both these custom Outline packages and do whatever needs doing to get them into the store πŸ™‚

            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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              #79

              Perhaps AppFlowy can offer an alternative in the meantime?

              • https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/6088/appflowy

              Local installers available:

              • https://appflowy.gitbook.io/docs/essential-documentation/install-appflowy/installation-methods

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                Outline is paid, it is better to add a free plan also.
                There are also free and open source notion alternatives like Logseq or focalboard which can be checked here

                https://developingdaily.com/article/technology/best-notion-alternatives-open-source-and-free/314

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                  And Documize: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/7116/documize-alternative-to-confluence

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                  • Vikas-jkV Vikas-jk

                    Outline is paid, it is better to add a free plan also.
                    There are also free and open source notion alternatives like Logseq or focalboard which can be checked here

                    https://developingdaily.com/article/technology/best-notion-alternatives-open-source-and-free/314

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                    @Vikas-jk said in Outline - a Notion-like open source app:

                    Outline is paid, it is better to add a free plan also.
                    There are also free and open source notion alternatives like Logseq or focalboard which can be checked here

                    https://developingdaily.com/article/technology/best-notion-alternatives-open-source-and-free/314

                    Hosted Outline is paid, that doesn't apply to self-hosted. Outline is also free (as in freedom) open source software too.

                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                      #83

                      Update available: Outline v0.65.2

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                        #84

                        This also looks very good:

                        https://docs.codex.so/codex-docs

                        Upvote here:

                        https://forum.cloudron.io/post/53468

                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                          #85

                          There is an update for the latest version v0.66.3
                          I forgot to put it here earlier.

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                            There is an update for the latest version v0.66.3
                            I forgot to put it here earlier.

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                            @nj thanks!

                            @staff would be wonderful if this could be added to the App Store?

                            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                            • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                              @nj thanks!

                              @staff would be wonderful if this could be added to the App Store?

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                              The implementation of https://git.apehost.de/cloudron-apps/outline seems to be working. Is there some plan to publish it in the store? @staff

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                              • matbrgzM matbrgz

                                The implementation of https://git.apehost.de/cloudron-apps/outline seems to be working. Is there some plan to publish it in the store? @staff

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                                @matbrgz don't see why not, we will take a look shortly. Thanks for packging this!

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                                  @matbrgz don't see why not, we will take a look shortly. Thanks for packging this!

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                                  @girish sorry to bother you again about this, could you please take a look here? This app is vital to my company.

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                                  • matbrgzM matbrgz

                                    @girish sorry to bother you again about this, could you please take a look here? This app is vital to my company.

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                                    @matbrgz said in Outline - a Notion-like open source app:

                                    @girish sorry to bother you again about this, could you please take a look here? This app is vital to my company.

                                    And not just you either, it's the second most upvoted app request on the wishlist after Wireguard VPN. Be great to have it on Cloudron!

                                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                      Yup, @vladimir-d is looking into this next week.

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                                        So after investigation, the situation is this:

                                        • Outline does not support any local authentication i.e it has no local user database.
                                        • The developers have indicated that there is possibly LDAP in the enterprise version of the product. I haven't tried that, so I don't know if it's there.
                                        • Authentication can be done via Google/GitHub (?) and other external services.
                                        • OpenID is supported

                                        Current package is using dex to bridge OpenID connect and Cloudron LDAP. This can be difficult to migrate in the long run (and is also two really apps in one).

                                        So, we can't provide Outline immediately. We are going to first add OpenID connect as an addon. We used to have OAuth before as addon that did not work out well. We will try this for 7.4.

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                                        • girishG girish

                                          So after investigation, the situation is this:

                                          • Outline does not support any local authentication i.e it has no local user database.
                                          • The developers have indicated that there is possibly LDAP in the enterprise version of the product. I haven't tried that, so I don't know if it's there.
                                          • Authentication can be done via Google/GitHub (?) and other external services.
                                          • OpenID is supported

                                          Current package is using dex to bridge OpenID connect and Cloudron LDAP. This can be difficult to migrate in the long run (and is also two really apps in one).

                                          So, we can't provide Outline immediately. We are going to first add OpenID connect as an addon. We used to have OAuth before as addon that did not work out well. We will try this for 7.4.

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                                          @girish It has never been easy to run. I had it running once years ago using Google or Slack, all hand-rolled and installed, and had to use this super niche code tweak that anyone who ever found it once could never find it again.
                                          Just now I went over to the site to try to login with Slack... failed. I know this is a cool app, but I don't think it is going to be worth the hassle getting it to work. Focus on something else!

                                          A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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