JMAP

[christiaan]

What mail server does Cloudron use? Will JMAP be coming to it any time soon?

[girish]

@christiaan Cloudron uses Haraka. We also actively contribute to the upstream project.

A quick look at JMAP, it seems that it replaces IMAP. So, this support will come via Dovecot (which Cloudron uses). It seems the latest update from Dovecot team itself is this.

[christiaan]

@girish okay cool, thanks. Yeah JMAP is much more efficient and makes working with a lot of email on mobile devices significantly quicker. It's also meant to be easier to implement than IMAP/SMTP.

Fastmail wants to build protocols and data models on top of the core of JMAP for handling calendars and contacts sync too, replacing CardDAV, CalDAV and Websocket.

One modern open API for mail, calendars and contacts.

[mehdi]

@christiaan Which clients would you want to use, if JMAP support were available in Cloudron? I must say I am a bit confused by this request, because AFAIK there is basically zero client support for JMAP except demos, proofs of concept, and experimental stuff.

[christiaan]

@mehdi I was just curious (and quite attracted to the idea of a single protocol for mail/calendar/contacts). A current lack of clients hadn't occurred to me. Although that's a bit of a chicken and egg thing. Server support needed first.

[micmc]

@christiaan said in JMAP:

@mehdi I was just curious (and quite attracted to the idea of a single protocol for mail/calendar/contacts). A current lack of clients hadn't occurred to me. Although that's a bit of a chicken and egg thing. Server support needed first.

I'm not too sure of what you mean by that, but I'd say it's up to developers to develop according to existing server technologies and markets AND upcoming trends, and not the contrary. Innovation is always welcome of course and this is what JMAP seems to tend to do, however it's simply a new protocol that still must go through the existing routes to eventually make its own place.
And, curiosity is great as well and so, thanks for the sharing.

Andy

[girish]

on dovecot side, JMAP support is not really being actively worked on - http://dovecot.2317879.n4.nabble.com/JMAP-support-td73445.html

[micmc]

@girish said in JMAP:

on dovecot side, JMAP support is not really being actively worked on - http://dovecot.2317879.n4.nabble.com/JMAP-support-td73445.html

Yeah, kind of being ignored a little bit. lol
AFAICS, JMAP does not seem to bring such great enhancements such as to shake the email servers industry, yet. That is very likely why there's seems to be not so much enthusiasm about this protocol. IMHO
Andy