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Excalidraw - Virtual whiteboard for sketching hand-drawn like diagrams

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  • avatar1024A Offline
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    avatar1024
    wrote on last edited by avatar1024
    #12

    Would be great to see the self-hosted version gain the collaboration feature soon and then get it on Cloudron! So far it seems one of the best Free Software whiteboard / canvas tool out there in terms of simplicity and feel. So far I'm not finding the Nexctloud whiteboard tool very convenient, intuitive or pretty.

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    • avatar1024A avatar1024

      Would be great to see the self-hosted version gain the collaboration feature soon and then get it on Cloudron! So far it seems one of the best Free Software whiteboard / canvas tool out there in terms of simplicity and feel. So far I'm not finding the Nexctloud whiteboard tool very convenient, intuitive or pretty.

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      #13

      @avatar1024 said in Excalidraw - Virtual whiteboard for sketching hand-drawn like diagrams:

      So far I'm not finding the Nexctloud whiteboard tool very convenient, intuitive or pretty.

      Presumably you're trying the new Whiteboard Integration app and not the Whiteboard app?

      This one:
      https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/integration_whiteboard

      Not this one:
      https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/whiteboard

      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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      • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

        @avatar1024 said in Excalidraw - Virtual whiteboard for sketching hand-drawn like diagrams:

        So far I'm not finding the Nexctloud whiteboard tool very convenient, intuitive or pretty.

        Presumably you're trying the new Whiteboard Integration app and not the Whiteboard app?

        This one:
        https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/integration_whiteboard

        Not this one:
        https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/whiteboard

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        #14

        @jdaviescoates indeed, using the integrated whiteboard. I think the other app been depreciated.

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        • marcusquinnM Offline
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          #15

          This does look good, and probably evolved since first posted. Worth another look?

          • https://excalidraw.com/
          • https://libraries.excalidraw.com/
          • https://plus.excalidraw.com/excalidraw-plus-vs-excalidraw

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            #16

            We now have tldraw, but just a quick bump on this post for those interested to compare: https://plus.excalidraw.com/excalidraw-plus-vs-excalidraw

            Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
            Development https://brandlight.org
            Life https://marcusquinn.com

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            • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

              We now have tldraw, but just a quick bump on this post for those interested to compare: https://plus.excalidraw.com/excalidraw-plus-vs-excalidraw

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              @marcusquinn said in Excalidraw - Virtual whiteboard for sketching hand-drawn like diagrams:

              We now have tldraw, but just a quick bump on this post for those interested to compare: https://plus.excalidraw.com/excalidraw-plus-vs-excalidraw

              What is not at all clear to me is whether or not Excalidraw Plus is self-hostable or not - have you managed to work that out?

              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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              • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                @marcusquinn said in Excalidraw - Virtual whiteboard for sketching hand-drawn like diagrams:

                We now have tldraw, but just a quick bump on this post for those interested to compare: https://plus.excalidraw.com/excalidraw-plus-vs-excalidraw

                What is not at all clear to me is whether or not Excalidraw Plus is self-hostable or not - have you managed to work that out?

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                #18

                @jdaviescoates I can't see a repo for it. Kinda typical of the FOSS as marketing model, which is fair enough, choices of features to hold back might be questionable though.

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                • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                  Details about self-hosting https://github.com/excalidraw/excalidraw#self-hosting :

                  We publish a Docker image with the Excalidraw client at excalidraw/excalidraw. You can use it to self-host your own client under your own domain, on Kubernetes, AWS ECS, etc.
                  docker build -t excalidraw/excalidraw .
                  docker run --rm -dit --name excalidraw -p 5000:80 excalidraw/excalidraw:latest
                  The Docker image is free of analytics and other tracking libraries.

                  At the moment, self-hosting your own instance doesn't support sharing or collaboration features.

                  We are working towards providing a full-fledged solution for self-hosting your own Excalidraw.

                  Shame self-hosting doesn't have collaboration features yet, but this still looks well worth having.

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                  @jdaviescoates said in Excalidraw - Virtual whiteboard for sketching hand-drawn like diagrams:

                  Shame self-hosting doesn't have collaboration features yet

                  I note those lines about the self-hosted version not having collaborative features are no longer present on the GitHub repo, and so presumably the the self-hosted version does indeed now have those features!

                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                    #20

                    Anecdotal but I just tried to collaborate on a self-hosted version and it didn't work

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                    • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                      We now have tldraw, but just a quick bump on this post for those interested to compare: https://plus.excalidraw.com/excalidraw-plus-vs-excalidraw

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                      @marcusquinn said in Excalidraw - Virtual whiteboard for sketching hand-drawn like diagrams:

                      We now have tldraw,

                      Given that tldraw wants their ball back, it wold be worth looking at Excalidraw.

                      The lack of collaboration of features within self-host (unless they have changed that) is a shame but not a blocker to having this on Cloudron (imho).

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                        @timconsidine Cryptpad has a collab whiteboard built in btw

                        Conscious tech

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                          #23

                          Yes, but it (meaning the whiteboard library) is from Russia - can't touch it.
                          Also bit simplistic, or that's their examples.
                          Excalidraw is best I have seen so far.

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                          • timconsidineT timconsidine

                            Yes, but it (meaning the whiteboard library) is from Russia - can't touch it.
                            Also bit simplistic, or that's their examples.
                            Excalidraw is best I have seen so far.

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                            robi
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                            #24

                            @timconsidine Ah, perhaps you can let them know of the better option?

                            Looking at their docs https://docs.excalidraw.com/docs/@excalidraw/excalidraw/installation#dimensions-of-excalidraw
                            It's just an npm install, so should be easy to package for Cloudron and if need be swap out an integration that also uses an npm install by changing the target name in the code, like Cryptpad if they're not interested in a switch.

                            Conscious tech

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                              Just pointing out I would also be interested in seeing developments on Cloudron side to hopefully self-host this in case it's possible.

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