CiviCRM | Open source constituent relationship management for non-profits, NGOs and advocacy organizations

[jimcavoli]

This runs as a WordPress plugin. I've run it with no major issues on Cloudron-installed WP before. If anyone wants to give it a spin and file any particular bug reports noticed, then that's an option, but is likely best positioned to be taken care of after other WordPress package changes that are in process right now

[makemrproper]

@jimcavoli said in CiviCRM | Open source constituent relationship management for non-profits, NGOs and advocacy organizations:

This runs as a WordPress plugin. I've run it with no major issues on Cloudron-installed WP before. If anyone wants to give it a spin and file any particular bug reports noticed, then that's an option, but is likely best positioned to be taken care of after other WordPress package changes that are in process right now

I recommend the Drupal version.

[jimcavoli]

Supposedly there's a CMS-independent version coming someday, but I have no idea when/if to expect that. That would likely be the best variant for Cloudron, if it ever comes to pass.

[LoudLemur]

There is a standalone CiviCRM now, under active development:

https://docs.civicrm.org/installation/en/latest/standalone/

[jeau]

Happy New Year to all Cloudron community members

The Standalone version of CiviCRM is now available.

It will be finalized with CiviCRM version 6, announced for March 5.

https://civicrm.org/blog/josh/announcing-civicrm-6

If, like me, you don't want to take advantage of the CMS (Drupal, Wordpress, Backdrop or Joomla) features with CiviCRM, then the Standalone version is welcome and facilitates maintenance.

it would be nice to package it

https://docs.civicrm.org/installation/en/latest/standalone/

[girish]

That's great news. I think it would make sense to package the standalone app for Cloudron when it's available.

[jeau]

thanks @girish,

This repo contains resources to run CiviCRM on Docker.
https://github.com/civicrm/civicrm-docker

[jdaviescoates]

@girish said in CiviCRM | Open source constituent relationship management for non-profits, NGOs and advocacy organizations:

That's great news. I think it would make sense to package the standalone app for Cloudron when it's available.

I think it is available, no?

[luckow]

@jdaviescoates taken from here -> https://civicrm.org/blog/ufundo/next-steps-civicrm-standalone

What is CiviCRM Standalone?

Standalone is a release of CiviCRM that runs independent of any CMS. No Drupal, no Wordpress, no Backdrop, no Joomla. Pure CiviCRM, if you will. If you don’t need functionality from the CMS side, then Standalone gives you all the features of CiviCRM in a simpler and faster package.
And now it’s finished?

Well… no. But nor is CiviCRM generally. Anyone who’s worked with complex software like CiviCRM will know, it’s never finished...

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You can get a standalone version 5.80.1 from here -> https://civicrm.org/download
Installation in a Cloudron LAMP app, works without problems.

So everything looks like a valid release candidate. But taken from here https://civicrm.org/blog/josh/announcing-civicrm-6, the next major release is planned for
05 march 2025.

Should we take the time to install CiviCRM standalone in a Cloudron LAMP app and help the community debug - and launch with a Cloudron app after version 6 is released?

[girish]

That will be great, if someone who has used CiviCRM in the past can install it in LAMP and report back!

[jeau]

I've been using CiviCRM for several years with Wordpress. I've installed the standalone version on a LAMP application, it works fine but I haven't taken the time to test it thoroughly.

[scooke]

I tried. Failed. There is some mix up that I can't unravel between the installation directory and final URL. I tried installing with the pertinent items in /app/data/public, using crm.example.com, and even though the install said it worked, I couldn't login because it was looking for crm.example.com/civicrm. So I emptied the db and started again, this time using /app/data/public/civicrm, but that time it seemed to want to just use crm.example.com; a partial admin login appeared if I used crm.example.com/civicrm, but after pressing Enter the page wouldn't load and a message about some problem popped up. Bizarre. I really don't feel like trying again. All permissions were fine. I've already uninstalled the LAMP app. Oh well.

[luckow]

@scooke quick & dirty:

• install LAMP on your Cloudron
• open the webterminal
• cd /app/data/
• wget https://storage.googleapis.com/civicrm/civicrm-stable/5.80.1/civicrm-5.80.1-standalone.tar.gz
• tar -xzf civicrm-5.80.1-standalone.tar.gz
• rm -rf public civicrm-5.80.1-standalone.tar.gz
• ln -s civicrm-standalone public
• chown -R www-data: civicrm-standalone public

Open civicrm.example.com. Install CiviCRM.
Credentials for mysql -> (easiest way) open credentials.txt in the filemanager

[scooke]

@luckow Instead of ln -s to /app/data/public, I extracted the tar to that directory. Permissions were all fine.

So you're saying you have it up and running? Because I did essentially what you outlined, and it didn't work.

[imc67]

@scooke said in CiviCRM | Open source constituent relationship management for non-profits, NGOs and advocacy organizations:

@luckow Instead of ln -s to /app/data/public, I extracted the tar to that directory. Permissions were all fine.

So you're saying you have it up and running? Because I did essentially what you outlined, and it didn't work.

I did exactly step by step what @luckow wrote and had it up and running within a minute. Though I didn’t manage to get the cron working and didn’t liked the UI so waiting for v6.

[scooke]

Well, geez, now I gotta try again.

[LoudLemur]

@luckow said in CiviCRM | Open source constituent relationship management for non-profits, NGOs and advocacy organizations:

Open civicrm.example.com. Install CiviCRM.
Credentials for mysql -> (easiest way) open credentials.txt in the filemanager

Thanks for this, but I wasn't able to complete it.

For "open civicrm", you can just click on the GLAMP (LAMP) application in cloudron and it will take you to the CiviCRM page.

There were errors which meant the civicrm wasn't installable. I am not sure how to proceed

[jdaviescoates]

@LoudLemur said in CiviCRM | Open source constituent relationship management for non-profits, NGOs and advocacy organizations:

There were errors which meant the civicrm wasn't installable. I am not sure how to proceed

Looks like perhaps you didn't give it the correct mysql credentials to me:

@luckow said in CiviCRM | Open source constituent relationship management for non-profits, NGOs and advocacy organizations:

Credentials for mysql -> (easiest way) open credentials.txt in the filemanager

[scooke]

@jdaviescoates @LoudLemur Most ikely it is the server bit. The default is 127.0.0.1:3306 but that is replaced with mysql
EDIT: i tried again and it once more didn't work. I can't even access the /phpmyadmin to empty the db to retry without having to install.

The error this time, in the logs, was a table not being found. But, it failed as soon as I pressed INSTALL, and gave me a 500 error. I will try one more time, fresh.

[scooke]

3rd times a charm. THIS time, I choose "Allow all users" rather than just my specific user. THEN I increased the memory in the Cloudron app dashboard to 2GB, AND I edited the php.ini to reflect the same, then restarted. AND instead of just writing mysql in the db location I typed mysql:3306. So which ensured it worked this time? Who knows.

SPOKE TOO SOON. I had forgotten to edit the admin user fields, and pressed Install. It alerted me to this... but continued with the install! So I filled in the fields even though the spinning activity wheel was present (Chrome on a Mac). A few minutes later, as I was logged in somehow and editing the details for my company, it all crashed with a note about a fatal db error. I will try ONE MORE TIME, and if it still doesn't work, I'm turning my back on this infernal app.