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    • scookeS scooke

      I'm running EasyPanel right now, mostly for Rotki. Their approach is two-stepped, in that you have to make a Project; within this Project you can install your own app, or you can choose from the Templates that are already prepared. Templates are essentially "apps". You can also pay to increase the number of projects, for better monitoring, and for DB backups.
      https://easypanel.io/
      https://easypanel.io/templates
      https://github.com/easypanel-io

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      @scooke said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

      https://easypanel.io/
      https://easypanel.io/templates
      https://github.com/easypanel-io

      Added, thanks.

      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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        This is the list of apps hosted on CapRover: https://wizardly-ptolemy-8fcac8.netlify.app/

        A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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        • scookeS scooke

          This is the list of apps hosted on CapRover: https://wizardly-ptolemy-8fcac8.netlify.app/

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          @scooke said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

          This is the list of apps hosted on CapRover: https://wizardly-ptolemy-8fcac8.netlify.app/

          Thanks, I'll add that to the OP

          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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            isn't casm workspace like cloudron as well in a sense?

            my website is not available right now

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            • adisonA adison

              isn't casm workspace like cloudron as well in a sense?

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              timconsidine
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              @adison said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

              isn't casm workspace like cloudron as well in a sense?

              No, Kasm is very different to Cloudron.
              Kasm is a wrapper to launch and run VM's.

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                The next step is to add a list of apps supported on these platforms using tags.
                Cloudron is the best, but it does not have all the apps.
                For example, OroCRM on Cloudpanel.

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                  plz add: https://coolify.io

                  ✌💙+1

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                  • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                    We all love Cloudron because it Just Works and automates/ takes care of so much.

                    As a bit of market research for Cloudron and as a list of other interesting options for people to try/ investigate for deploying apps that aren't yet on Cloudron, let's compile a list of the similarish "one-click install" type services that are out there.

                    I'll get us started:

                    YunoHost
                    https://yunohost.org/
                    https://yunohost.org/en/apps
                    https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost

                    HomelabOS
                    https://homelabos.com/
                    https://homelabos.com/docs/#available-software
                    https://gitlab.com/NickBusey/HomelabOS/

                    Ethibox
                    https://ethibox.fr/
                    https://ethibox.fr/apps
                    https://github.com/ethibox/ethibox

                    Tipi
                    https://www.runtipi.io/
                    https://www.runtipi.io/docs/apps-available
                    https://github.com/meienberger/runtipi

                    Co-op Cloud
                    https://coopcloud.tech/
                    https://recipes.coopcloud.tech/
                    https://git.coopcloud.tech/coop-cloud

                    Elestio
                    https://elest.io/
                    https://elest.io/fully-managed-services
                    https://github.com/elestio

                    Sandstorm
                    https://sandstorm.io/
                    https://apps.sandstorm.io/
                    https://github.com/sandstorm-io/sandstorm

                    CapRover
                    https://caprover.com/
                    https://wizardly-ptolemy-8fcac8.netlify.app/ (h/t @scooke for giving me that list of CapRover apps)
                    https://github.com/caprover/caprover

                    Umbrel
                    https://umbrel.com/
                    https://apps.umbrel.com/
                    https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel

                    Cosmos
                    https://cosmos-cloud.io
                    https://cosmos-cloud.io/cosmos-ui/market-listing (but apparently can do any Docker app too)
                    https://github.com/azukaar/cosmos-server

                    CasaOS
                    https://casaos.io/
                    (I can't easily find the list of apps on CasaOS but it shows them on the website)
                    https://github.com/IceWhaleTech/CasaOS

                    PikaPods (not self hosting, but easy App Deployment to their Cloud Infrastructure)
                    https://www.pikapods.com/
                    https://www.pikapods.com/apps
                    https://github.com/pikapods (docs only)

                    Unraid
                    https://unraid.net/
                    https://unraid.net/community/apps
                    https://github.com/unraid (it's proprietary though, so you wont find the code there)

                    Dokku
                    https://dokku.com
                    https://github.com/dokku/dokku/
                    No list of apps, but "you can push Heroku-compatible applications to it via Git"

                    FreedomBox
                    https://freedombox.org/
                    https://salsa.debian.org/freedombox-team/freedombox/
                    Can't find a simple list but check the demo and manual

                    Easypanel
                    https://easypanel.io/
                    https://easypanel.io/templates
                    https://github.com/easypanel-io

                    Coolify - An open-source & self-hostable Heroku / Netlify alternative.
                    https://coolify.io/
                    https://coolify.io/docs/installation
                    https://github.com/coollabsio/coolify/blob/main/scripts/install.sh
                    https://github.com/coollabsio/coolify/

                    There is also this handy tool by @rosano that lists all the apps available on Cloudron, YunoHost and CapRover https://easyindie.app/ (be cool if it listed all the apps on all these systems!)

                    What else is out there?

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                    @jdaviescoates beautiful list, and thanks to everyone for compiling so many options here. would love to integrate more into easyindie.app (preferably ones that don't require too much command-line setup / management), it's open-source so people can also make pull requests, i can help explain how to add other platforms ☀️

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                      plz add: https://coolify.io

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                      @plusone-nick said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

                      plz add: https://coolify.io

                      That's quite different imho (like I would never use it myself as it's really more for developers to spin up their own apps as far as I can tell), but I've added it anyway 🙂

                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                      • rosanoR rosano

                        @jdaviescoates beautiful list, and thanks to everyone for compiling so many options here. would love to integrate more into easyindie.app (preferably ones that don't require too much command-line setup / management), it's open-source so people can also make pull requests, i can help explain how to add other platforms ☀️

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                        @rosano said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

                        would love to integrate more into easyindie.app (preferably ones that don't require too much command-line setup / management),

                        👍 (yeah, some of them e.g. coolify etc aren't really quite the same ball park imho)

                        it's open-source so people can also make pull requests, i can help explain how to add other platforms ☀️

                        👏

                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                          Do any of these have a working mail server built-in like Cloudron has? For me, that is one of the USP.

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                          • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                            Do any of these have a working mail server built-in like Cloudron has? For me, that is one of the USP.

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                            @necrevistonnezr said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

                            Do any of these have a working mail server built-in like Cloudron has? For me, that is one of the USP.

                            Good question!

                            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                            • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                              Do any of these have a working mail server built-in like Cloudron has? For me, that is one of the USP.

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                              @necrevistonnezr Well, I went through the list for you. Some of them I could have told you immediately because I use them, or tried them. Suffice to say, ONLY https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/Manual/Email has the option for built-in email. The rest have no email options, or offer email clients. At best, a few offer the usage of an SMTP server but it is one you must have already set up outside of the environment (like Mailgun, Sendgrid, etc.).

                              ONLY Cloudron mentions email on it's front page, and only Cloudron then makes its setup so seamless and easy as to almost make a user not even realize there is email! And then ONLY Cloudron offers email clients with which one can use this built-in email service.

                              A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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                                Found another one, from their description it's an interesting approach: https://selfprivacy.org/

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                                • fbartelsF fbartels

                                  Found another one, from their description it's an interesting approach: https://selfprivacy.org/

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                                  @fbartels cool! Seems they like Cloudron and list it on their site.. could use a rephrase though as source "available".
                                  https://selfprivacy.org/docs/about-us/team/

                                  Conscious tech

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                                    @fbartels But they need us to use two servers?? One for services, one for DNS. And their site https://selfprivacy.org/docs/getting-started/, for me at least, doesn't actually tell me what I'm installing. But elsewhere they reference cd /etc/nixos so I guess it is based on nixos? Then there isa Linux Desktop app... is this what I install on the server?? Their instructions list

                                    Generating tokens
                                    Installation
                                    Connecting to the services
                                    

                                    but then the text skips the "Installation"... forget it! Cloudron has spoiled me for it's clarity of purpose and instruction.

                                    A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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                                    • scookeS scooke

                                      @fbartels But they need us to use two servers?? One for services, one for DNS. And their site https://selfprivacy.org/docs/getting-started/, for me at least, doesn't actually tell me what I'm installing. But elsewhere they reference cd /etc/nixos so I guess it is based on nixos? Then there isa Linux Desktop app... is this what I install on the server?? Their instructions list

                                      Generating tokens
                                      Installation
                                      Connecting to the services
                                      

                                      but then the text skips the "Installation"... forget it! Cloudron has spoiled me for it's clarity of purpose and instruction.

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                                      @scooke said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

                                      Cloudron has spoiled me for it's clarity of purpose and instruction

                                      👍
                                      For me too
                                      I've looked at and tried out Dokku, CapRover, CosmosServer, Coolify, Yunohost, Sandstorm.
                                      They each have their good points.
                                      But overall, none come close to Cloudron as a reliable PaaS deployment.
                                      Trying to summon the motivation to try EasyPanel, but the nagging voice in my head keeps saying "but why bother? time is precious".

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                                        @fbartels But they need us to use two servers?? One for services, one for DNS. And their site https://selfprivacy.org/docs/getting-started/, for me at least, doesn't actually tell me what I'm installing. But elsewhere they reference cd /etc/nixos so I guess it is based on nixos? Then there isa Linux Desktop app... is this what I install on the server?? Their instructions list

                                        Generating tokens
                                        Installation
                                        Connecting to the services
                                        

                                        but then the text skips the "Installation"... forget it! Cloudron has spoiled me for it's clarity of purpose and instruction.

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                                        @scooke said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

                                        Cloudron has spoiled me

                                        One of the big selling points for me too.

                                        The way i understood their model is that you install an app on your phone (there is also a desktop app if you prefer this). And this app then provisions a server at hetzner that is installed and configured through nix.

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                                          @scooke said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

                                          Cloudron has spoiled me for it's clarity of purpose and instruction

                                          👍
                                          For me too
                                          I've looked at and tried out Dokku, CapRover, CosmosServer, Coolify, Yunohost, Sandstorm.
                                          They each have their good points.
                                          But overall, none come close to Cloudron as a reliable PaaS deployment.
                                          Trying to summon the motivation to try EasyPanel, but the nagging voice in my head keeps saying "but why bother? time is precious".

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                                          adison
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                                          @timconsidine i'll admit, despite the problems i had with it, it is pretty decent. without it i wouldn't be able to deploy my website, not to mention securely.

                                          my website is not available right now

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                                            in fact, if i'm bein honest, i never had a website untill cloudron came around. i had no priar experience in html. we went with linode wordpress, and that had close to no security configurations. not to mention, it didn't have any hsts/default ssl. when i started using cloudron, i noticed a big differents. i had hsts, ssl, everything basically. it seams to do better than linode marketplace

                                            my website is not available right now

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