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    • nebulon
      nebulon Staff last edited by

      ONLINE ACCOUNTING SOFTWARE FOR BUSINESSES.

      From invoicing to expense tracking to accounting, Akaunting has all the tools you need to manage your money online, for free.

      • https://akaunting.com
      • https://github.com/akaunting
      • https://github.com/kuralabs/docker-akaunting
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      • jimcavoli
        jimcavoli App Dev last edited by

        What would be the best first steps to help start the ball rolling on getting even an unstable variant of Akaunting working?

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        • murgero
          murgero App Dev @jimcavoli last edited by

          @jimcavoli Someone would need to build a test app using cloudron standards for Docker and Ubuntu.

          Funding might help as well to get a dev to even take a look.

          --
          https://urgero.org
          ~ Professional Nerd. Freelance Programmer. ~
          Matrix: @murgero:urgero.org

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          • JOduMonT
            JOduMonT last edited by

            @nebulon I tried a bunch of Accounting software and Akaunting was in my top 5 but Invoice Ninja and Kimai2 are better and already in Cloudron. You will use Akaunting or it's just to add another apps ?

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            • jdaviescoates
              jdaviescoates @JOduMonT last edited by

              @JOduMonT as I understand it the goal is for Cloudron to have the top 3 apps per app category

              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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              • JOduMonT
                JOduMonT @jdaviescoates last edited by

                @jdaviescoates said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:

                the goal is for Cloudron to have the top 3 apps per app category

                yes I do understand that too, but if nobody use or will use it, should we not focus on another category πŸ™‚

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                • girish
                  girish Staff last edited by

                  So far, the main way we figure how to package is go to the app wish list category and sort by most voted. We know this has a couple of pitfalls - a) only 20% of actual cloudron users are on this forum. we haven't figured out how to get people to join this forum πŸ™‚ Most people don't even know about it, it seems. b) the upvote button is not very obvious in nodebb. We wanted to spend some time making that a little more prominent.

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                  • jdaviescoates
                    jdaviescoates @girish last edited by

                    @girish said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:

                    Most people don't even know about it, it seems.

                    Email all subscribers with subject "Which apps do you want in Cloudron?" or similar and direct people to the App wishlist? Include screenshot of upvote button. Do this once a quarter?

                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                    • JOduMonT
                      JOduMonT @girish last edited by

                      @girish said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:

                      only 20% of actual cloudron users

                      20% is very good
                      marketing say pat your the back when you are around 10% of response
                      I just discover the Developing an app that can be packaged for Cloudron? Get a free license with our App Developer Program that should also have more drive than a small emphasis

                      Survey by email will make only your crowd annoyed and you being mark as a spammer.

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                      • JOduMonT
                        JOduMonT @jdaviescoates last edited by

                        @jdaviescoates said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:

                        Email all subscribers with subject "Which apps do you want in Cloudron?"

                        Taiga or Loomio are good apps for that but if Cloudron have already have a "hard time" to drag people to vote via the forum adding another layer/application is not the solution
                        invitation, incentive and education are

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                        • JOduMonT
                          JOduMonT @jdaviescoates last edited by

                          @jdaviescoates said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:

                          Which apps do you want in Cloudron?

                          I'm might be an unusual but when it come time to choose an application I do my little data mining such as

                          1. I start alternativeto.net to see the score of the apps
                          2. than look for the same apps on https://www.libhunt.com
                          3. than if I'm not convince I'll search through similar project such as yunohost, linuxserver, freedombox, caprover, ...

                          I really like how yunohost and linuxserver present their data

                          • yunohost
                          • linuxserver

                          it give you an overview of what is well maintained and the quality of it.

                          My point is, more focusing on viable projects and less on what the user

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                          • jdaviescoates
                            jdaviescoates @JOduMonT last edited by

                            @JOduMonT said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:

                            My point is, more focusing on viable projects and less on what the user

                            The Cloudron Devs only include apps that are actively maintained anyway.

                            And yes, I really like how some of those sites make it easy to compare projects too.

                            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                              will @murgero last edited by

                              @murgero Lets say I have the funding, but no coding experience. How might I connect with the developer?

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                              • murgero
                                murgero App Dev @will last edited by

                                @will you can contact cloudron support (or discuss here) for the cloudron app.if you wan the akaunting devs to do work on the cloudron app, you can probably find contact details on their github or website.

                                --
                                https://urgero.org
                                ~ Professional Nerd. Freelance Programmer. ~
                                Matrix: @murgero:urgero.org

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                                • denisdulici
                                  denisdulici last edited by denisdulici

                                  Hey guys,

                                  We're currently packaging Akaunting for Cloudron so stay tuned πŸ˜‰

                                  Regards

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                                  • girish
                                    girish Staff last edited by

                                    Thanks for helping us out @denisdulici ! The work is happening here - https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/akaunting-app/

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                                    • avatar1024
                                      avatar1024 @JOduMonT last edited by avatar1024

                                      I look forward to seeing that app!

                                      @JOduMonT said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:

                                      @nebulon I tried a bunch of Accounting software and Akaunting was in my top 5 but Invoice Ninja and Kimai2 are better and already in Cloudron. You will use Akaunting or it's just to add another apps ?

                                      It does seem to me (just looking at the website) that Akunting does more that Invoice ninja and Kimai in terms of managing your overall finance whereas the others are more specifically about managing invoices / time-keeping / Projects, is that right?

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                                      • JOduMonT
                                        JOduMonT @avatar1024 last edited by

                                        @avatar1024 said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:

                                        It does seem to me (just looking at the website) that Akunting does more that Invoice ninja and Kimai in terms of managing your overall finance whereas the others are more specifically about managing invoices / time-keeping / Projects, is that right?

                                        Naked Akunting don't really do more than Invoice Ninja, probably less
                                        Almost every addons https://akaunting.com/apps have a price.

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                                          aniki94 last edited by

                                          hi, please can you do a tutorial to create a page in akounting and fill it

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                                          • marcusquinn
                                            marcusquinn last edited by marcusquinn

                                            Akaunting looks worthwhile as an alternative to Xero (with a migration tool) or Quickfile.

                                            Can't see automated Bank & Card statement importing though unless anyone knows otherwise?

                                            Xero as a bridge could but that's purchasing the plugin and maintaining a Xero subscription.

                                            Odoo Accounting or ERPNext the best FOSS I know of for interest, so I'd still have those higher up the Wishlist TBH.

                                            We're not here for a long time - but we are here for a good time :)
                                            Jersey/UK
                                            Work & Ecommerce Advice: https://brandlight.org
                                            Personal & Software Tips: https://marcusquinn.com

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                                            • girish
                                              girish Staff last edited by

                                              Whoops, I dropped the ball on this. @denisdulici already made a package a couple of months ago and I completely forgot to follow it up with him. I made a TODO for myself for this week.

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                                              • JOduMonT
                                                JOduMonT @marcusquinn last edited by

                                                @marcusquinn said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:

                                                Can't see automated Bank & Card statement importing though unless anyone knows otherwise?

                                                Sadly these kinds of automation are mainly oriented US base Bank, and this even with paid and close source software such as Zoho Invoice.

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                                                • marcusquinn
                                                  marcusquinn @JOduMonT last edited by

                                                  @JOduMonT IMHO the US banks are far behind the EU & UK for Open Banking (and the fun n games with chip n pin).

                                                  Although I do like having a stash go $2 notes when I'm over πŸ˜„

                                                  Some links for fun reading:

                                                  https://www.openbanking.org.uk
                                                  https://plaid.com
                                                  https://www.yodlee.com/financial-products/api-apps-data

                                                  TBH I wouldn't reinvent wheels and just use https://xero.com for it's integrations and https://integromat.com APIness.

                                                  I loath robotic chores, so always try to workflow anything like that even if it's via files to a dropbox or email.

                                                  While we're here, big fan of https://transferwise.com for international banking, worth a look for anyone interested in something with an API and decent service.

                                                  We're not here for a long time - but we are here for a good time :)
                                                  Jersey/UK
                                                  Work & Ecommerce Advice: https://brandlight.org
                                                  Personal & Software Tips: https://marcusquinn.com

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                                                  • necrevistonnezr
                                                    necrevistonnezr @marcusquinn last edited by

                                                    @marcusquinn said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:

                                                    @JOduMonT IMHO the US banks are far behind the EU & UK for Open Banking (and the fun n games with chip n pin).

                                                    That’s because the EU is by now quite effective and much more effective than most people give it credit for: Online Banking - inter alia - is subject to the (revised) Payment Directive (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payment_Services_Directive).

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                                                    • jdaviescoates
                                                      jdaviescoates @marcusquinn last edited by

                                                      @marcusquinn said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:

                                                      TBH I wouldn't reinvent wheels and just use https://xero.com for it's integrations

                                                      Free Agent also automatically imports most stuff using Open Banking (although I've still had to use a tiresome process of converting PDF statements to CSV in order to get older data that Open Banking doesn't suck in)

                                                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                                      • marcusquinn
                                                        marcusquinn @jdaviescoates last edited by

                                                        @jdaviescoates Tabular helps me with that if you're not already aware of it: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2814/tabula-extracts-table-data-from-pdfs-wen-copy-paste-often-doesn-t?_=1594815634825

                                                        We're not here for a long time - but we are here for a good time :)
                                                        Jersey/UK
                                                        Work & Ecommerce Advice: https://brandlight.org
                                                        Personal & Software Tips: https://marcusquinn.com

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                                                        • jimcavoli
                                                          jimcavoli App Dev last edited by

                                                          @girish said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:

                                                          Thanks for helping us out @denisdulici ! The work is happening here - https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/akaunting-app/

                                                          Dead link; status seems unknown. Have you got an update on the old effort and/or would a new pass be more useful?

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                                                          • girish
                                                            girish Staff @jimcavoli last edited by

                                                            @jimcavoli For some reason that repo was private, I have made it public now.

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                                                            • avatar1024
                                                              avatar1024 last edited by

                                                              Is there anyone still working on this? Or is there any update of some kind? Would be great to have it on the app store πŸ™‚

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                                                              • timconsidine
                                                                timconsidine App Dev @marcusquinn last edited by

                                                                @marcusquinn big πŸ‘ for Wise (formerly TransferWise)
                                                                More cost-effective than the big 4 for international transfers (and seems faster in my experience)
                                                                Nice API for batch payments, e.g. upload payroll for staff
                                                                Nice users can get a little bonus with a referral code from current users (e.g. @marcusquinn or myself)

                                                                Ref Akaunting, I haven't been able to check if it is adequate for UK users, e.g. HMRC drive towards 'Making Tax Digital', most notably submission of VAT returns. If Akaunting does support this, then it's interesting, otherwise (for me anyway) it doesn't work well.

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                                                                • jdaviescoates
                                                                  jdaviescoates @timconsidine last edited by jdaviescoates

                                                                  @timconsidine said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:

                                                                  If Akaunting does support this, then it's interesting, otherwise (for me anyway) it doesn't work well.

                                                                  I've not double checked, but I doubt you can submit anything anywhere with Akaunting, just keep track of and prepare figures.

                                                                  Similarly, I don't think Akaunting (nor any other open source web accounting software I'm aware of) will automatically import bank feeds etc either (I don't mind submitting my own accounts and tax returns, but I can't live without automatically importing transactions!)

                                                                  I use FreeAgent (10% off a subscription with that link) which works very well for my circumstances.

                                                                  Lots of people seem to use Xero too.

                                                                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                                                  • timconsidine
                                                                    timconsidine App Dev @jdaviescoates last edited by

                                                                    @jdaviescoates I'm using FreeAgent too - free if you are with Natwest !

                                                                    Very happy with Quickfile too - written by / for accountants, but good for business too.

                                                                    I like Hledger also ... but it's quite hard-core - accounting with text files ! And of course no VAT submission options.

                                                                    Taxcalc is great for CoHouse/HMRC submissions : not cheap, but top notch. Written for accountants so really good (if you know what you're doing !)

                                                                    Shame about Akaunting but if FreeAgent start charging me, I might give it a go.

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                                                                    • jdaviescoates
                                                                      jdaviescoates @timconsidine last edited by

                                                                      @timconsidine said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:

                                                                      Natwest

                                                                      Allow me to suggest divesting from banks that still fund fossil fuel projects

                                                                      NatWest has been lending to some very questionable fossil fuel friends.

                                                                      And it's not just a little here and there, we’re talking about $13 billion in the 5 years since 197 countries agreed to drastically reduce their greenhouse gas emissions in the Paris Agreement.

                                                                      See
                                                                      https://bank.green/banks/natwest

                                                                      I recommended Starling Bank for business banking and Nationwide for personal banking

                                                                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                                                      • timconsidine
                                                                        timconsidine App Dev @jdaviescoates last edited by

                                                                        @jdaviescoates yes, it is on my plan πŸ‘

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                                                                        • jdaviescoates
                                                                          jdaviescoates @timconsidine last edited by

                                                                          @timconsidine πŸ‘

                                                                          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                                                          • yusf
                                                                            yusf @jdaviescoates last edited by

                                                                            @jdaviescoates said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:

                                                                            I don't think Akaunting (nor any other open source web accounting software I'm aware of) will automatically import bank feeds etc either

                                                                            Paid plugin will https://akaunting.com/apps/bank-feeds

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                                                                            • jdaviescoates
                                                                              jdaviescoates @yusf last edited by jdaviescoates

                                                                              @yusf said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:

                                                                              @jdaviescoates said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:

                                                                              I don't think Akaunting (nor any other open source web accounting software I'm aware of) will automatically import bank feeds etc either

                                                                              Paid plugin will https://akaunting.com/apps/bank-feeds

                                                                              Thanks!

                                                                              Now, I'm very interested!

                                                                              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                                                              • marcusquinn
                                                                                marcusquinn @timconsidine last edited by

                                                                                @timconsidine πŸ‘ for Quickfile - one of my favourite non-open-source apps.

                                                                                We're not here for a long time - but we are here for a good time :)
                                                                                Jersey/UK
                                                                                Work & Ecommerce Advice: https://brandlight.org
                                                                                Personal & Software Tips: https://marcusquinn.com

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                                                                                • andreasdueren
                                                                                  andreasdueren last edited by

                                                                                  What is the current status of Akaunting? I tried installing it in a LAMP stack but that doesn't seem to work

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