Akaunting - Free Accounting Software
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ONLINE ACCOUNTING SOFTWARE FOR BUSINESSES.
From invoicing to expense tracking to accounting, Akaunting has all the tools you need to manage your money online, for free.
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What would be the best first steps to help start the ball rolling on getting even an unstable variant of Akaunting working?
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@jimcavoli Someone would need to build a test app using cloudron standards for Docker and Ubuntu.
Funding might help as well to get a dev to even take a look.
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@nebulon I tried a bunch of Accounting software and Akaunting was in my top 5 but Invoice Ninja and Kimai2 are better and already in Cloudron. You will use Akaunting or it's just to add another apps ?
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@JOduMonT as I understand it the goal is for Cloudron to have the top 3 apps per app category
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@jdaviescoates said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:
the goal is for Cloudron to have the top 3 apps per app category
yes I do understand that too, but if nobody use or will use it, should we not focus on another category
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So far, the main way we figure how to package is go to the app wish list category and sort by most voted. We know this has a couple of pitfalls - a) only 20% of actual cloudron users are on this forum. we haven't figured out how to get people to join this forum
Most people don't even know about it, it seems. b) the upvote button is not very obvious in nodebb. We wanted to spend some time making that a little more prominent. -
@girish said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:
Most people don't even know about it, it seems.
Email all subscribers with subject "Which apps do you want in Cloudron?" or similar and direct people to the App wishlist? Include screenshot of upvote button. Do this once a quarter?
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@girish said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:
only 20% of actual cloudron users
20% is very good
marketing say pat your the back when you are around 10% of response
I just discover theDeveloping an app that can be packaged for Cloudron? Get a free license with our App Developer Programthat should also have more drive than a small emphasisSurvey by email will make only your crowd annoyed and you being mark as a spammer.
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@jdaviescoates said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:
Email all subscribers with subject "Which apps do you want in Cloudron?"
Taiga or Loomio are good apps for that but if Cloudron have already have a "hard time" to drag people to vote via the forum adding another layer/application is not the solution
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@jdaviescoates said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:
Which apps do you want in Cloudron?
I'm might be an unusual but when it come time to choose an application I do my little data mining such as
- I start alternativeto.net to see the score of the apps
- than look for the same apps on https://www.libhunt.com
- than if I'm not convince I'll search through similar project such as yunohost, linuxserver, freedombox, caprover, ...
I really like how yunohost and linuxserver present their data
it give you an overview of what is well maintained and the quality of it.
My point is, more focusing on viable projects and less on what the user
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@JOduMonT said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:
My point is, more focusing on viable projects and less on what the user
The Cloudron Devs only include apps that are actively maintained anyway.
And yes, I really like how some of those sites make it easy to compare projects too.
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@murgero Lets say I have the funding, but no coding experience. How might I connect with the developer?
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@will you can contact cloudron support (or discuss here) for the cloudron app.if you wan the akaunting devs to do work on the cloudron app, you can probably find contact details on their github or website.
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Hey guys,
We're currently packaging Akaunting for Cloudron so stay tuned
Regards
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Thanks for helping us out @denisdulici ! The work is happening here - https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/akaunting-app/
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I look forward to seeing that app!
@JOduMonT said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:
@nebulon I tried a bunch of Accounting software and Akaunting was in my top 5 but Invoice Ninja and Kimai2 are better and already in Cloudron. You will use Akaunting or it's just to add another apps ?
It does seem to me (just looking at the website) that Akunting does more that Invoice ninja and Kimai in terms of managing your overall finance whereas the others are more specifically about managing invoices / time-keeping / Projects, is that right?
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@avatar1024 said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:
It does seem to me (just looking at the website) that Akunting does more that Invoice ninja and Kimai in terms of managing your overall finance whereas the others are more specifically about managing invoices / time-keeping / Projects, is that right?
Naked Akunting don't really do more than Invoice Ninja, probably less
Almost every addons https://akaunting.com/apps have a price. -
hi, please can you do a tutorial to create a page in akounting and fill it
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Akaunting looks worthwhile as an alternative to Xero (with a migration tool) or Quickfile.
Can't see automated Bank & Card statement importing though unless anyone knows otherwise?
Xero as a bridge could but that's purchasing the plugin and maintaining a Xero subscription.
Odoo Accounting or ERPNext the best FOSS I know of for interest, so I'd still have those higher up the Wishlist TBH.
We're not here for a long time - but we are here for a good time :)
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Whoops, I dropped the ball on this. @denisdulici already made a package a couple of months ago and I completely forgot to follow it up with him. I made a TODO for myself for this week.
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@marcusquinn said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:
Can't see automated Bank & Card statement importing though unless anyone knows otherwise?
Sadly these kinds of automation are mainly oriented US base Bank, and this even with paid and close source software such as Zoho Invoice.
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@JOduMonT IMHO the US banks are far behind the EU & UK for Open Banking (and the fun n games with chip n pin).
Although I do like having a stash go $2 notes when I'm over
Some links for fun reading:
https://www.openbanking.org.uk
https://plaid.com
https://www.yodlee.com/financial-products/api-apps-dataTBH I wouldn't reinvent wheels and just use https://xero.com for it's integrations and https://integromat.com APIness.
I loath robotic chores, so always try to workflow anything like that even if it's via files to a dropbox or email.
While we're here, big fan of https://transferwise.com for international banking, worth a look for anyone interested in something with an API and decent service.
We're not here for a long time - but we are here for a good time :)
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@marcusquinn said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:
@JOduMonT IMHO the US banks are far behind the EU & UK for Open Banking (and the fun n games with chip n pin).
That’s because the EU is by now quite effective and much more effective than most people give it credit for: Online Banking - inter alia - is subject to the (revised) Payment Directive (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payment_Services_Directive).
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@marcusquinn said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:
TBH I wouldn't reinvent wheels and just use https://xero.com for it's integrations
Free Agent also automatically imports most stuff using Open Banking (although I've still had to use a tiresome process of converting PDF statements to CSV in order to get older data that Open Banking doesn't suck in)
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@jdaviescoates Tabular helps me with that if you're not already aware of it: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2814/tabula-extracts-table-data-from-pdfs-wen-copy-paste-often-doesn-t?_=1594815634825
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@girish said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:
Thanks for helping us out @denisdulici ! The work is happening here - https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/akaunting-app/
Dead link; status seems unknown. Have you got an update on the old effort and/or would a new pass be more useful?
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@jimcavoli For some reason that repo was private, I have made it public now.
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Is there anyone still working on this? Or is there any update of some kind? Would be great to have it on the app store
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@marcusquinn big
for Wise (formerly TransferWise)
More cost-effective than the big 4 for international transfers (and seems faster in my experience)
Nice API for batch payments, e.g. upload payroll for staff
Nice users can get a little bonus with a referral code from current users (e.g. @marcusquinn or myself)Ref Akaunting, I haven't been able to check if it is adequate for UK users, e.g. HMRC drive towards 'Making Tax Digital', most notably submission of VAT returns. If Akaunting does support this, then it's interesting, otherwise (for me anyway) it doesn't work well.
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@timconsidine said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:
If Akaunting does support this, then it's interesting, otherwise (for me anyway) it doesn't work well.
I've not double checked, but I doubt you can submit anything anywhere with Akaunting, just keep track of and prepare figures.
Similarly, I don't think Akaunting (nor any other open source web accounting software I'm aware of) will automatically import bank feeds etc either (I don't mind submitting my own accounts and tax returns, but I can't live without automatically importing transactions!)
I use FreeAgent (10% off a subscription with that link) which works very well for my circumstances.
Lots of people seem to use Xero too.
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@jdaviescoates I'm using FreeAgent too - free if you are with Natwest !
Very happy with Quickfile too - written by / for accountants, but good for business too.
I like Hledger also ... but it's quite hard-core - accounting with text files ! And of course no VAT submission options.
Taxcalc is great for CoHouse/HMRC submissions : not cheap, but top notch. Written for accountants so really good (if you know what you're doing !)
Shame about Akaunting but if FreeAgent start charging me, I might give it a go.
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@timconsidine said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:
Natwest
Allow me to suggest divesting from banks that still fund fossil fuel projects
NatWest has been lending to some very questionable fossil fuel friends.
And it's not just a little here and there, we’re talking about $13 billion in the 5 years since 197 countries agreed to drastically reduce their greenhouse gas emissions in the Paris Agreement.
See
https://bank.green/banks/natwestI recommended Starling Bank for business banking and Nationwide for personal banking
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@jdaviescoates yes, it is on my plan
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@jdaviescoates said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:
I don't think Akaunting (nor any other open source web accounting software I'm aware of) will automatically import bank feeds etc either
Paid plugin will https://akaunting.com/apps/bank-feeds
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@yusf said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:
@jdaviescoates said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:
I don't think Akaunting (nor any other open source web accounting software I'm aware of) will automatically import bank feeds etc either
Paid plugin will https://akaunting.com/apps/bank-feeds
Thanks!
Now, I'm very interested!
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@timconsidine
for Quickfile - one of my favourite non-open-source apps. -
What is the current status of Akaunting? I tried installing it in a LAMP stack but that doesn't seem to work
