BigBlueButton - web conferencing system for on-line learning

[atridad]

@luckow These are good points. I don't think its a bad idea to have the option (like with Jitsi) still but BBB specifically should stay out. Especially when considering how resource hungry it is and that it requires older versions of Ubuntu. That being said Cloudron should probably never be used for truly large scale conferences simply because those tasks are better suited for distributed setups behind a loadbalancer as you said.

I did also want to mention that there are cloudron instances that have more resources available. I'm running an i3-9100 and 128GB of RAM. My CPU and 300Mbps network bandwidth are the bottlenecks now and would still not be suited to this sort of high load scenario (large conferences)

[jimcavoli]

@atrilahiji I'm increasingly inclined to agree - and the Greenlight interface being available and usable by Cloudron LDAP seems like the best of all worlds for that split. That's a really elegant solution that meets needs in my opinion for anyone who needs heavier-duty conferencing.

[girish]

@luckow Thanks! I put your instructions here - https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/greenlight/#installing-bigbluebutton

[jdaviescoates]

@atrilahiji said in BigBlueButton - web conferencing system for on-line learning:

BBB specifically should stay out. Especially when considering how resource hungry it is and that it requires older versions of Ubuntu.

BBB 2.3 that'll work on Ubuntu 18.04 is getting there (currently alpha-8) and with Cloudron 7.0 we should be getting multi-host support, which would make it easier to give BBB it's own server.

I'd still love it on here!

[atridad]

@jdaviescoates yeah same. For me it’s mostly because I’m cheap. If I can avoid paying for a VPS I want to try. Everything I run now (except for my BBB backend) is on my home server

[jdaviescoates]

@atrilahiji heh, fair enough. Like lots of people I don't have good enough internet at home to be able to do that

[jeau]

Version 2.3 just released
https://github.com/bigbluebutton/bigbluebutton/releases/tag/v2.3.0

But the documentation is not yet up to date, especially about the installation which is now possible on Ubuntu 18.04 and about the improvements and new features.

[jeau]

@jeau read also this post 5 most exciting newly added features of BigBlueButton Version 2.3

[luckow]

Use the "official" ansible role for the deployment -> https://github.com/ebbba-org/ansible-role-bigbluebutton/tree/develop/2.3

[luckow]

Presentation foto for the new release. Taken from the release party.

[girish]

@luckow So, this one adds ubuntu 18/20 support?

[luckow]

@girish ubuntu 18 only.

[doodlemania2]

@luckow my BBB as a service is almost ready - if anyone is interested, DM me

[doodlemania2]

BBB as a service is now available for testing... DM me if you'd like to hook your Greenlights up to it.

[luckow]

@doodlemania2 where are the server instances located? I only have instances in germany. So no experience with other countries
If you need a nice default presentation which explains the BBB-UI go to Presentation_Slides -> BBB-default-slides_en.pdf https://cloud.ebbba.org/s/Q2i9FqZaPdjQKmM

[doodlemania2]

@luckow I have one in Southern California and another in Dallas, TX. Everything except presentations work (screen sharing, polls, chat, voice/video, presence, CC, etc all good). Will figure out presentations in a day or so.

DM me if you wanna give it a spin.

[BrutalBirdie]

@doodlemania2

Everything except presentations work

Did you use ansible? I just fixed a permission issue with bbb-web and bbb-html5 which blocked presentation parsing.

[doodlemania2]

@brutalbirdie nah, good ol docker compose

[privsec]

Any updates on a cloudron deploy-able package? I'd pay a separate fee for this app on a separate server, no questions asked.

[jdaviescoates]

@privsec I note it's one of the apps newly auto installable on Hetzner Cloud

[BrutalBirdie]

@jdaviescoates but its bad, really bad! - And Outdated! 2.3.0 < 2.3.10
I maintain the official Ansible role for BBB and stay in close contact to at least 25 Admins from universities in Germany.
They basically uniformly agreed that the Hetzner BBB app is unusable for any real work with BBB.

The Ansible Role:
https://github.com/ebbba-org/ansible-role-bigbluebutton

[privsec]

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[privsec]

@brutalbirdie said in BigBlueButton - web conferencing system for on-line learning:

@jdaviescoates but its bad, really bad!
I maintain the official Ansible role for BBB and stay in close contact to at least 25 Admins from universities in Germany.
They basically uniformly agreed that the Hetzner BBB app is unusable for for any real work with BBB.

The Ansible Role:
https://github.com/ebbba-org/ansible-role-bigbluebutton

Darn it. Was really hoping for a major win.

[BrutalBirdie]

@privsec use the ansible role and you have a major win.

I currently maintain multiple BBB clusters, Load-Balancers and Turn servers all via ansible and my work time for that is pretty much zero thanks to ansible.

[privsec]

@brutalbirdie Thanks for the fast reply, can I DM you with some questions?

[BrutalBirdie]

@privsec sure!

[micmc]

@brutalbirdie said in BigBlueButton - web conferencing system for on-line learning:

@jdaviescoates but its bad, really bad! - And Outdated! 2.3.0 < 2.3.10
I maintain the official Ansible role for BBB and stay in close contact to at least 25 Admins from universities in Germany.
They basically uniformly agreed that the Hetzner BBB app is unusable for for any real work with BBB.

The Ansible Role:
https://github.com/ebbba-org/ansible-role-bigbluebutton

Wow that's awesome thanks for sharing this Ansible playbook.

I'm in the process of starting to learn Ansible myself as it is a great time saving tool for managing servers.

And now I've a great "major win" to start with. Pretty cool!

You think you can share some more?

Cheers!
Andy

[doodlemania2]

@brutalbirdie Could yall include me too? I'm offering it (BBB) to a few folks as a small teeny service and it seems to be working okay/decent. About to add SIP support. Would love to learn more about how ya'll are approaching it.

[BrutalBirdie]

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[jdaviescoates]

@brutalbirdie they may have updated, that's an old screenshot, but many thanks for the heads up anyway. Are you aware of meet.coop ? I'm a member and think it'd be great to have you involved too!