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  • N NCKNE

    Getting elasticsearch into Cloudron would be great! Fulltext search for Nextcloud is a must and running a separate instance side by side to cloudron is very inefficient...

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    jdaviescoates
    wrote on last edited by jdaviescoates
    #12

    Cloudron 6.0 now has Solr integration!

    But even though https://github.com/nextcloud/fulltextsearch says:

    Full text search

    Scrutinizer Code Quality

    Full text search is the core app of a full-text search framework for your Nextcloud.
    To have it operate, and get content indexed, some other apps are needed:

    • Some Providers Apps to extract content from your Nextcloud.
    • A Platform App that communicate with a search platform (ie. Elastic Search, Solr, …) in order to index the content provided by the Providers.
      Note: There is no limit to the number of platform-apps that can be installed, however only one can be selected from the admin interface

    (I bolded Solr)

    Currently Solr is not yet supported:

    https://github.com/nextcloud/fulltextsearch/issues/334

    Someone made a start a while back, but it doesn't appear they've done anything on it for the last couple of years now 😕

    https://github.com/rearden-logic-inc/fulltextsearch_solr

    I wonder any @staff or @appdev's might be up for taking this on? It'd be awesome to be able to use Cloudron's new Solr addon within Nextcloud to do full text searches! 🙏

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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    • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

      Cloudron 6.0 now has Solr integration!

      But even though https://github.com/nextcloud/fulltextsearch says:

      Full text search

      Scrutinizer Code Quality

      Full text search is the core app of a full-text search framework for your Nextcloud.
      To have it operate, and get content indexed, some other apps are needed:

      • Some Providers Apps to extract content from your Nextcloud.
      • A Platform App that communicate with a search platform (ie. Elastic Search, Solr, …) in order to index the content provided by the Providers.
        Note: There is no limit to the number of platform-apps that can be installed, however only one can be selected from the admin interface

      (I bolded Solr)

      Currently Solr is not yet supported:

      https://github.com/nextcloud/fulltextsearch/issues/334

      Someone made a start a while back, but it doesn't appear they've done anything on it for the last couple of years now 😕

      https://github.com/rearden-logic-inc/fulltextsearch_solr

      I wonder any @staff or @appdev's might be up for taking this on? It'd be awesome to be able to use Cloudron's new Solr addon within Nextcloud to do full text searches! 🙏

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      girish
      Staff
      wrote on last edited by
      #13

      @jdaviescoates I think only the elastic one is maintained upstream. It's unlikey we (cloudron) will write the solr fts integration for nextcloud. That's really something we don't have any expertise for.

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      • girishG girish

        @jdaviescoates I think only the elastic one is maintained upstream. It's unlikey we (cloudron) will write the solr fts integration for nextcloud. That's really something we don't have any expertise for.

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        jdaviescoates
        wrote on last edited by
        #14

        @girish it was a longshot, but fair enough!

        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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        • vladimir.dV Offline
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          wrote on last edited by
          #15

          We've created an ElasticSearch app for Cloudron.

          https://git.cloudron.io/vladimir.d/elasticsearch

          Comments are welcome!

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          • vladimir.dV vladimir.d

            We've created an ElasticSearch app for Cloudron.

            https://git.cloudron.io/vladimir.d/elasticsearch

            Comments are welcome!

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            jdaviescoates
            wrote on last edited by
            #16

            @vladimir-d said in Nextcloud Fulltext Search:

            We've created an ElasticSearch app for Cloudron.

            https://git.cloudron.io/vladimir.d/elasticsearch

            Comments are welcome!

            Woah, cool!

            This sounds worthy of a @staff and @appdev mention!

            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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            • vladimir.dV vladimir.d

              We've created an ElasticSearch app for Cloudron.

              https://git.cloudron.io/vladimir.d/elasticsearch

              Comments are welcome!

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              fbartels
              App Dev
              wrote on last edited by
              #17

              I guess https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/5297/supervisord-to-manage-running-processes-in-nextcloud-app is related to this

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              • marcusquinnM Offline
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                #18

                Yup, we have this working now. It's OKish but Nextcloud's search interface is kinda sh*t, so next task is going to be fixing that to make it actually useful and hopefully work similarly to Google Drive with an actual sortable results page.

                Elasticsearch as an App from @vladimir-d is a significant win for other uses too.

                Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                Development https://brandlight.org
                Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                • marcusquinnM Offline
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                  marcusquinn
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #19

                  Anecdotally, this fulltext search (using elastic search) seems to be as fast as the filename search, or even makes both of them faster.

                  The search results interface as a modal is still cramped and limited, but we will try to develop a full results page to show on hitting enter or clicking the search icon.

                  Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                  Development https://brandlight.org
                  Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                    marcusquinn
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #20

                    An interesting search string for anyone managing what multiple users do with these things is to search for password and see how many place plaintext passwords are stored in user's documents & spreadsheets!

                    Similar for things like passport number, driving licence, social security, national insurance. It's a handy way to do a review of personal data being stored in files and who has access to what.

                    Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                    Development https://brandlight.org
                    Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                    • vladimir.dV vladimir.d

                      We've created an ElasticSearch app for Cloudron.

                      https://git.cloudron.io/vladimir.d/elasticsearch

                      Comments are welcome!

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                      rmdes
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #21

                      @vladimir-d @staff could this be part of the store in the near future ?

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                      • rmdesR rmdes

                        @vladimir-d @staff could this be part of the store in the near future ?

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                        girish
                        Staff
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #22

                        @rmdes I think as a first step for next Cloudron release we will look into a way to run long running / periodic processes so we can support things like nextcloud indexer. Elasticsearch has to be installed as a separate package. From there, it's straightforward.

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                        • girishG girish

                          @rmdes I think as a first step for next Cloudron release we will look into a way to run long running / periodic processes so we can support things like nextcloud indexer. Elasticsearch has to be installed as a separate package. From there, it's straightforward.

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                          rmdes
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #23

                          @girish Wonderful, I have tons of PDF's that I want to parse, OCRise, make searchable, the ability to do this in a self-hosted environment is mandatory in my case because it's related to Justice documents that I don't want to upload anywhere, ever, so I have been searching ways to go around that without having VPS's running just for that, I hope it's going to be doable in the future 🙂 (and I trust it will)

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                          • rmdesR rmdes

                            @girish Wonderful, I have tons of PDF's that I want to parse, OCRise, make searchable, the ability to do this in a self-hosted environment is mandatory in my case because it's related to Justice documents that I don't want to upload anywhere, ever, so I have been searching ways to go around that without having VPS's running just for that, I hope it's going to be doable in the future 🙂 (and I trust it will)

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                            marcusquinn
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #24

                            @rmdes we're looking into the OCR stuff too, will get to that part very soon as well.

                            Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                            Development https://brandlight.org
                            Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                            • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                              @rmdes we're looking into the OCR stuff too, will get to that part very soon as well.

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                              necrevistonnezr
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #25

                              @marcusquinn @vladimir-d @staff
                              What's the status of the Elastic Search App - according to the repo, there hasn't been an update for the last 9 months. Is this still functional?

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                              • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                                @marcusquinn @vladimir-d @staff
                                What's the status of the Elastic Search App - according to the repo, there hasn't been an update for the last 9 months. Is this still functional?

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                                jdaviescoates
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #26

                                @necrevistonnezr said in Nextcloud Fulltext Search:

                                What's the status of the Elastic Search App - according to the repo, there hasn't been an update for the last 9 months. Is this still functional?

                                Same question.

                                It'd be great to actually get this in the App Store if it is functional.

                                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                  @necrevistonnezr said in Nextcloud Fulltext Search:

                                  What's the status of the Elastic Search App - according to the repo, there hasn't been an update for the last 9 months. Is this still functional?

                                  Same question.

                                  It'd be great to actually get this in the App Store if it is functional.

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                                  marcusquinn
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #27

                                  @jdaviescoates Sorry, we're tied up trying to get Univention working as a master AD/LDAP server to multiple Cloudron, Unify and other systems, because sadly, the world still uses Active Directory.

                                  Will try to get shared shortly...

                                  Also need to compare to Filerun and Pydio for speed.

                                  Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                                  Development https://brandlight.org
                                  Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                                    im-fabian
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                                    #28

                                    @marcusquinn I like this project and just wanted to get it a bump 🙂

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                                    • im-fabianI im-fabian

                                      @marcusquinn I like this project and just wanted to get it a bump 🙂

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                                      #29

                                      @im-fabian make sure to upvote the top post then

                                      Conscious tech

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