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Openclaw - your free open-source AI personal assistant (formerly Clawdbot & Moltbot)

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  • marcusquinnM Online
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    marcusquinn
    wrote on last edited by marcusquinn
    #8

    @timconsidine Significant note on the security advice on this one:

    • https://docs.clawd.bot/gateway/security

    Needs to be very much locked-down by default, given the capabilities.

    Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
    Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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    • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

      @timconsidine Significant note on the security advice on this one:

      • https://docs.clawd.bot/gateway/security

      Needs to be very much locked-down by default, given the capabilities.

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      timconsidine
      App Dev
      wrote on last edited by
      #9

      @marcusquinn yes, critical - looking into 'surfacing' all of that, and exploring whether it is possible to invoke sandboxing out of the box.
      But YouTube is overflowing with videos on security issues, may put some in the POSTINSTALL

      Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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      • timconsidineT timconsidine

        @marcusquinn yes, critical - looking into 'surfacing' all of that, and exploring whether it is possible to invoke sandboxing out of the box.
        But YouTube is overflowing with videos on security issues, may put some in the POSTINSTALL

        marcusquinnM Online
        marcusquinnM Online
        marcusquinn
        wrote on last edited by
        #10

        @timconsidine Yup. At least link to that page in the readme/instructions.

        Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
        Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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          zonzonzon
          wrote on last edited by
          #11

          Thank you so much, this bot is really great. Seamless integration with the existing messaging system offers many use cases.

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          • Z zonzonzon

            Thank you so much, this bot is really great. Seamless integration with the existing messaging system offers many use cases.

            marcusquinnM Online
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            marcusquinn
            wrote on last edited by
            #12

            @zonzonzon I can see uses for many of these talking to each other and delegating tasks.

            Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
            Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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              timconsidine
              App Dev
              wrote on last edited by
              #13

              to those wanting the package :

              • please do your research now while waiting about security issues, and sandboxing. There is tons of online blog posts and YouTube videos. Just so you can be clear.
              • getting close to a package, but not quite there yet

              Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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              • robiR Offline
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                wrote on last edited by
                #14

                Wow things are moving so fast.. ⏩

                Anthropic complained Clawd is too close to Claude, so they rebranded to Moltbot. The next evolution, ha brilliant. 😆

                https://github.com/moltbot/moltbot

                Conscious tech

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                  timconsidine
                  App Dev
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #15

                  Hoping to release Moltbot (was Clawdbot) for Cloudron later today.

                  But off to hospital briefly (hopefully) so bear with me.

                  Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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                    jdaviescoates
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                    #16

                    Hope your hospital visit went smoothly @timconsidine

                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                      timconsidine
                      App Dev
                      wrote on last edited by timconsidine
                      #17

                      Yay ! 🍾
                      Later than hoped, but done now.

                      I have packaged Moltbot for Cloudron (was Clawdbot) including its browser GUI.
                      Repo : git.cloudron.io/timconsidine/cloudron-moltbot
                      Built public docker image : tcmbp132021/cloudron-moltbot:latest
                      Available on ccai.appx.uk (or your own CCAI-P but re-import the master catalogue)

                      Frankly the GUI is not fully developed, and still requires manual configuration in the (ugly but functional) CLI.
                      But hopefully with the fast pace of development, it will become 100%.

                      I'm putting this out with an ALPHA status, because I am still testing it out, so don't really know what works and what doesn't. Equally I know there is a lot of interest in it, so rushed it out as ALPHA.
                      Maybe the 'bleeding edge' / 'edge of seats' brigade can help me out 😄

                      TBH AgentZero (https://forum.cloudron.io/post/119353) holds more interest for me, so not currently sure if I will use Moltbot in practice, but as it's been getting lots of profile, it's fun to explore and compare and discover its capabilities.

                      Many of you wanting this on Cloudron are probably 2 steps ahead of me in terms of understanding and configuring Moltbot for real use.
                      So feedback and your guidance is welcome.


                      Side-note on Packaging : I lost time packaging this because I played with Claude Code (CLI and VS-Code plugin), then Opencode (also CLI and VS-Code).
                      TBH there was learning time on those, and neither cut it fully for me.
                      Opencode is good, but didn't perform as well as my standard dev setup.
                      That's probably an issue of models used, but none performed as well as well as my TRAE dev assistant on "auto" model selection.
                      I will remove Claude Code from my setup as the only attraction was using it with Ollama models, but I can do that with Opencode or even TRAE.

                      Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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                      • robiR Offline
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                        robi
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #18

                        The latest evolution to stay is OpenClaw as it retains its roots and is copyright free.

                        More here + backstory:
                        https://openclaw.ai/blog/introducing-openclaw

                        The gateway really is the cool interface on almost any chat app.

                        Conscious tech

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                        • robiR robi

                          The latest evolution to stay is OpenClaw as it retains its roots and is copyright free.

                          More here + backstory:
                          https://openclaw.ai/blog/introducing-openclaw

                          The gateway really is the cool interface on almost any chat app.

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                          timconsidine
                          App Dev
                          wrote on last edited by timconsidine
                          #19

                          @robi openclaw is much better name
                          I just hope the code is much better and finished

                          E.g.
                          “We support iMessage”

                          • “cool”

                          “Ah, but it’s a WIP”

                          • “aarrgghh”

                          I’m excited about Moltbot/OpenClaw but I reckon it needs another couple months to be complete / stable

                          Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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                          • timconsidineT timconsidine

                            @robi openclaw is much better name
                            I just hope the code is much better and finished

                            E.g.
                            “We support iMessage”

                            • “cool”

                            “Ah, but it’s a WIP”

                            • “aarrgghh”

                            I’m excited about Moltbot/OpenClaw but I reckon it needs another couple months to be complete / stable

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                            robi
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #20

                            @timconsidine I hear you. The experience is so different if you choose an option that isn't as polished yet.

                            I would suggest Telegram or Discord to start as those work well. Haven't tried others.

                            Conscious tech

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                            • robiR robi

                              @timconsidine I hear you. The experience is so different if you choose an option that isn't as polished yet.

                              I would suggest Telegram or Discord to start as those work well. Haven't tried others.

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                              timconsidine
                              App Dev
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #21

                              @robi I have Telegram working. Need to configure some / tasks and skills to make it productive.

                              Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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                              • marcusquinnM Online
                                marcusquinnM Online
                                marcusquinn
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #22

                                Another day, another rename

                                • https://openclaw.ai/blog/introducing-openclaw

                                Apparently they're sticking with this now.

                                Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
                                Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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                                • marcusquinnM Online
                                  marcusquinnM Online
                                  marcusquinn
                                  wrote on last edited by marcusquinn
                                  #23

                                  The creator's been pretty active with bots to build bots:

                                  • https://github.com/steipete

                                  6e01d515-74d9-449b-8c6a-4195198996e2-image.png

                                  Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
                                  Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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                                  • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                    Another day, another rename

                                    • https://openclaw.ai/blog/introducing-openclaw

                                    Apparently they're sticking with this now.

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                                    timconsidine
                                    App Dev
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #24

                                    @marcusquinn started packaging it ....

                                    Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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                                    • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                      The creator's been pretty active with bots to build bots:

                                      • https://github.com/steipete

                                      6e01d515-74d9-449b-8c6a-4195198996e2-image.png

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                                      timconsidine
                                      App Dev
                                      wrote on last edited by timconsidine
                                      #25

                                      @marcusquinn

                                      Interesting : now I see that many of his creations are listed as plugins/extensions within moltbot/openclaw


                                      "Ship beats perfect"

                                      Ha ! Don't I know it (from packaging moltbot).
                                      Far be it from me to challenge this, but I think he should revise his approach.
                                      "Shipped and properly working, not incomplete, beats perfect" might be better.

                                      Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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                                      • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                        Another day, another rename

                                        • https://openclaw.ai/blog/introducing-openclaw

                                        Apparently they're sticking with this now.

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                                        #26

                                        @marcusquinn said in Openclawd - your free open-source AI personal assistant (formerly Clawdbot & Moltbot):

                                        Another day, another rename

                                        The title of this thread has openclawd instead of openclaw

                                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                        • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                          @marcusquinn said in Openclawd - your free open-source AI personal assistant (formerly Clawdbot & Moltbot):

                                          Another day, another rename

                                          The title of this thread has openclawd instead of openclaw

                                          marcusquinnM Online
                                          marcusquinnM Online
                                          marcusquinn
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #27

                                          @jdaviescoates sorted

                                          Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
                                          Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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