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Openclaw - your free open-source AI personal assistant (formerly Clawdbot & Moltbot)

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  • marcusquinnM Offline
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    marcusquinn
    wrote on last edited by
    #22

    Another day, another rename

    • https://openclaw.ai/blog/introducing-openclaw

    Apparently they're sticking with this now.

    Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
    Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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      marcusquinn
      wrote on last edited by marcusquinn
      #23

      The creator's been pretty active with bots to build bots:

      • https://github.com/steipete

      6e01d515-74d9-449b-8c6a-4195198996e2-image.png

      Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
      Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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      • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

        Another day, another rename

        • https://openclaw.ai/blog/introducing-openclaw

        Apparently they're sticking with this now.

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        timconsidine
        App Dev
        wrote on last edited by
        #24

        @marcusquinn started packaging it ....

        Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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        • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

          The creator's been pretty active with bots to build bots:

          • https://github.com/steipete

          6e01d515-74d9-449b-8c6a-4195198996e2-image.png

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          timconsidine
          App Dev
          wrote on last edited by timconsidine
          #25

          @marcusquinn

          Interesting : now I see that many of his creations are listed as plugins/extensions within moltbot/openclaw


          "Ship beats perfect"

          Ha ! Don't I know it (from packaging moltbot).
          Far be it from me to challenge this, but I think he should revise his approach.
          "Shipped and properly working, not incomplete, beats perfect" might be better.

          Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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          • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

            Another day, another rename

            • https://openclaw.ai/blog/introducing-openclaw

            Apparently they're sticking with this now.

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            jdaviescoates
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            #26

            @marcusquinn said in Openclawd - your free open-source AI personal assistant (formerly Clawdbot & Moltbot):

            Another day, another rename

            The title of this thread has openclawd instead of openclaw

            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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            • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

              @marcusquinn said in Openclawd - your free open-source AI personal assistant (formerly Clawdbot & Moltbot):

              Another day, another rename

              The title of this thread has openclawd instead of openclaw

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              marcusquinn
              wrote on last edited by
              #27

              @jdaviescoates sorted

              Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
              Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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                robi
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                #28

                This thread is inspirational for how to tier your model usage, especially if you're hitting token limits.
                https://x.com/code_rams/status/2017684921091772591

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                Conscious tech

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                • robiR robi

                  This thread is inspirational for how to tier your model usage, especially if you're hitting token limits.
                  https://x.com/code_rams/status/2017684921091772591

                  image.png

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                  marcusquinn
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #29

                  @robi Sonnet 5 is due out this week, don't think we'll need anything else once that is 🙂

                  Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
                  Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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                  • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                    @robi Sonnet 5 is due out this week, don't think we'll need anything else once that is 🙂

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                    #30

                    @marcusquinn token burn is real, and default config doesn't care.

                    Hence openrouter's auto route helps

                    As does this config optimization
                    OC efficient config - https://x.com/alexxzay/status/2017824548276600914

                    Conscious tech

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                    • robiR robi

                      @marcusquinn token burn is real, and default config doesn't care.

                      Hence openrouter's auto route helps

                      As does this config optimization
                      OC efficient config - https://x.com/alexxzay/status/2017824548276600914

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                      timconsidine
                      App Dev
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #31

                      @robi thanks for that link
                      still working on my openclaw package, so that will be useful (incorporated if I can)

                      Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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                        crazybrad
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                        #32

                        As an AI practitioner with our own AI server and projects, I was excited about testing this agent as well - until I read this article about ClawDBot Vulnerabilities.
                        Now I'm thinking about whether I want to explore this, but at least, perhaps I will try it using a machine and digital presence that is separate, apart and isolated from everything that matters!

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                        • C crazybrad

                          As an AI practitioner with our own AI server and projects, I was excited about testing this agent as well - until I read this article about ClawDBot Vulnerabilities.
                          Now I'm thinking about whether I want to explore this, but at least, perhaps I will try it using a machine and digital presence that is separate, apart and isolated from everything that matters!

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                          timconsidine
                          App Dev
                          wrote on last edited by timconsidine
                          #33

                          @crazybrad I have very similar thoughts & cautions.

                          • packaging it because it looks cool and fun to learn what the fuss is about
                          • I would NEVER deploy this on a primary working computer like desktop/laptop
                          • deploying it in a container seems like it could be viable

                          I have a feeling that Agent Zero is much better than Openclaw, but I can't really say that until I have test Openclaw fairly. So continuing on the package "just in case" it can help me or others.

                          Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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                          • C crazybrad

                            As an AI practitioner with our own AI server and projects, I was excited about testing this agent as well - until I read this article about ClawDBot Vulnerabilities.
                            Now I'm thinking about whether I want to explore this, but at least, perhaps I will try it using a machine and digital presence that is separate, apart and isolated from everything that matters!

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                            robi
                            wrote on last edited by robi
                            #34

                            @crazybrad no fear, the enchanting experience is key.

                            Conscious tech

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                              crazybrad
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                              #35

                              @timconsidine I think "containerizing" is a great and much safer approach. I would just not use real accounts: email, social, etc. The fact that you are doing this might encourage me to create some test accounts and try it:) @robi Excellent point! "Mirror, mirror on the wall... whose the smartest one of all:)"

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                                DualOSWinWiz
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                                #36

                                I was thinking few roles for clawdbot / openclaw / agentzero as a bookeeper who with giving access to irs taxcode and postgress database ask him to be my accountant. Still thinking about it but i have to free few weekends for this. Any thoughts / suggestions?

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                                • D DualOSWinWiz

                                  I was thinking few roles for clawdbot / openclaw / agentzero as a bookeeper who with giving access to irs taxcode and postgress database ask him to be my accountant. Still thinking about it but i have to free few weekends for this. Any thoughts / suggestions?

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                                  marcusquinn
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #37

                                  @DualOSWinWiz exactly the kind of thing this is for — go for it!

                                  Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
                                  Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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                                  • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                    @DualOSWinWiz exactly the kind of thing this is for — go for it!

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                                    #38

                                    @marcusquinn but the necessary requirement is to need 2 more bots one bot to audit bookeeper so its kind of more complex and then the 3rd bot as the decision maker so decision should always be 2 to 1. Otherwise it could be a mess. Still thinking

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                                      @marcusquinn but the necessary requirement is to need 2 more bots one bot to audit bookeeper so its kind of more complex and then the 3rd bot as the decision maker so decision should always be 2 to 1. Otherwise it could be a mess. Still thinking

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                                      marcusquinn
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #39

                                      @DualOSWinWiz sure, you could still do all that on one device.

                                      Might be a useful skill to add into your mix:

                                      • https://www.aitmpl.com/component/skill/invoice-organizer

                                      Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
                                      Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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                                      • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                        @DualOSWinWiz sure, you could still do all that on one device.

                                        Might be a useful skill to add into your mix:

                                        • https://www.aitmpl.com/component/skill/invoice-organizer
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                                        DualOSWinWiz
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                                        @marcusquinn thank you i will

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                                        • C crazybrad

                                          @timconsidine I think "containerizing" is a great and much safer approach. I would just not use real accounts: email, social, etc. The fact that you are doing this might encourage me to create some test accounts and try it:) @robi Excellent point! "Mirror, mirror on the wall... whose the smartest one of all:)"

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                                          timconsidine
                                          App Dev
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #41

                                          @crazybrad yep 👍- in my cautious approach I set up a dedicated address e.g. my-company-finance@app.domain.tld and forward manually/automatically emails to it, bot monitors email inbox and works only on those - not full primary email access

                                          Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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