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Openclaw - your free open-source AI personal assistant (formerly Clawdbot & Moltbot)

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  • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

    Another day, another rename

    • https://openclaw.ai/blog/introducing-openclaw

    Apparently they're sticking with this now.

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    timconsidine
    App Dev
    wrote on last edited by
    #24

    @marcusquinn started packaging it ....

    Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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    • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

      The creator's been pretty active with bots to build bots:

      • https://github.com/steipete

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      timconsidine
      App Dev
      wrote on last edited by timconsidine
      #25

      @marcusquinn

      Interesting : now I see that many of his creations are listed as plugins/extensions within moltbot/openclaw


      "Ship beats perfect"

      Ha ! Don't I know it (from packaging moltbot).
      Far be it from me to challenge this, but I think he should revise his approach.
      "Shipped and properly working, not incomplete, beats perfect" might be better.

      Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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      • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

        Another day, another rename

        • https://openclaw.ai/blog/introducing-openclaw

        Apparently they're sticking with this now.

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        jdaviescoates
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        #26

        @marcusquinn said in Openclawd - your free open-source AI personal assistant (formerly Clawdbot & Moltbot):

        Another day, another rename

        The title of this thread has openclawd instead of openclaw

        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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        • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

          @marcusquinn said in Openclawd - your free open-source AI personal assistant (formerly Clawdbot & Moltbot):

          Another day, another rename

          The title of this thread has openclawd instead of openclaw

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          marcusquinn
          wrote on last edited by
          #27

          @jdaviescoates sorted

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            robi
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            #28

            This thread is inspirational for how to tier your model usage, especially if you're hitting token limits.
            https://x.com/code_rams/status/2017684921091772591

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            Conscious tech

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            • robiR robi

              This thread is inspirational for how to tier your model usage, especially if you're hitting token limits.
              https://x.com/code_rams/status/2017684921091772591

              image.png

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              marcusquinn
              wrote on last edited by
              #29

              @robi Sonnet 5 is due out this week, don't think we'll need anything else once that is 🙂

              Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
              Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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              • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                @robi Sonnet 5 is due out this week, don't think we'll need anything else once that is 🙂

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                robi
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                #30

                @marcusquinn token burn is real, and default config doesn't care.

                Hence openrouter's auto route helps

                As does this config optimization
                OC efficient config - https://x.com/alexxzay/status/2017824548276600914

                Conscious tech

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                • robiR robi

                  @marcusquinn token burn is real, and default config doesn't care.

                  Hence openrouter's auto route helps

                  As does this config optimization
                  OC efficient config - https://x.com/alexxzay/status/2017824548276600914

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                  timconsidine
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #31

                  @robi thanks for that link
                  still working on my openclaw package, so that will be useful (incorporated if I can)

                  Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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                    #32

                    As an AI practitioner with our own AI server and projects, I was excited about testing this agent as well - until I read this article about ClawDBot Vulnerabilities.
                    Now I'm thinking about whether I want to explore this, but at least, perhaps I will try it using a machine and digital presence that is separate, apart and isolated from everything that matters!

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                    • C crazybrad

                      As an AI practitioner with our own AI server and projects, I was excited about testing this agent as well - until I read this article about ClawDBot Vulnerabilities.
                      Now I'm thinking about whether I want to explore this, but at least, perhaps I will try it using a machine and digital presence that is separate, apart and isolated from everything that matters!

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                      timconsidine
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                      wrote on last edited by timconsidine
                      #33

                      @crazybrad I have very similar thoughts & cautions.

                      • packaging it because it looks cool and fun to learn what the fuss is about
                      • I would NEVER deploy this on a primary working computer like desktop/laptop
                      • deploying it in a container seems like it could be viable

                      I have a feeling that Agent Zero is much better than Openclaw, but I can't really say that until I have test Openclaw fairly. So continuing on the package "just in case" it can help me or others.

                      Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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                      • C crazybrad

                        As an AI practitioner with our own AI server and projects, I was excited about testing this agent as well - until I read this article about ClawDBot Vulnerabilities.
                        Now I'm thinking about whether I want to explore this, but at least, perhaps I will try it using a machine and digital presence that is separate, apart and isolated from everything that matters!

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                        robi
                        wrote on last edited by robi
                        #34

                        @crazybrad no fear, the enchanting experience is key.

                        Conscious tech

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                          crazybrad
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                          @timconsidine I think "containerizing" is a great and much safer approach. I would just not use real accounts: email, social, etc. The fact that you are doing this might encourage me to create some test accounts and try it:) @robi Excellent point! "Mirror, mirror on the wall... whose the smartest one of all:)"

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                            DualOSWinWiz
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                            I was thinking few roles for clawdbot / openclaw / agentzero as a bookeeper who with giving access to irs taxcode and postgress database ask him to be my accountant. Still thinking about it but i have to free few weekends for this. Any thoughts / suggestions?

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                            • D DualOSWinWiz

                              I was thinking few roles for clawdbot / openclaw / agentzero as a bookeeper who with giving access to irs taxcode and postgress database ask him to be my accountant. Still thinking about it but i have to free few weekends for this. Any thoughts / suggestions?

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                              marcusquinn
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #37

                              @DualOSWinWiz exactly the kind of thing this is for — go for it!

                              Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
                              Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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                              • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                @DualOSWinWiz exactly the kind of thing this is for — go for it!

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                                @marcusquinn but the necessary requirement is to need 2 more bots one bot to audit bookeeper so its kind of more complex and then the 3rd bot as the decision maker so decision should always be 2 to 1. Otherwise it could be a mess. Still thinking

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                                  @marcusquinn but the necessary requirement is to need 2 more bots one bot to audit bookeeper so its kind of more complex and then the 3rd bot as the decision maker so decision should always be 2 to 1. Otherwise it could be a mess. Still thinking

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                                  marcusquinn
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                                  #39

                                  @DualOSWinWiz sure, you could still do all that on one device.

                                  Might be a useful skill to add into your mix:

                                  • https://www.aitmpl.com/component/skill/invoice-organizer

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                                  Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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                                  • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                    @DualOSWinWiz sure, you could still do all that on one device.

                                    Might be a useful skill to add into your mix:

                                    • https://www.aitmpl.com/component/skill/invoice-organizer
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                                    @marcusquinn thank you i will

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                                    • C crazybrad

                                      @timconsidine I think "containerizing" is a great and much safer approach. I would just not use real accounts: email, social, etc. The fact that you are doing this might encourage me to create some test accounts and try it:) @robi Excellent point! "Mirror, mirror on the wall... whose the smartest one of all:)"

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                                      @crazybrad yep 👍- in my cautious approach I set up a dedicated address e.g. my-company-finance@app.domain.tld and forward manually/automatically emails to it, bot monitors email inbox and works only on those - not full primary email access

                                      Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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                                        crazybrad
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                                        @timconsidine Smart. Typical for you:)

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                                          LoudLemur
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                                          Suggest switching this instead to support for:

                                          https://github.com/agent0ai/agent-zero

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