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DKIM and DMARC for built-in outgoing mail

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    clouddaz
    wrote on last edited by girish
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    Outgoing mail from the built in email solution does not have a DKIM signature or a DMARC signature.
    Is this possible to enable or configure?

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      girish
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      @clouddaz Outbound mails should already have DKIM signature. Can you send a test mail to https://www.mail-tester.com/ and send us the report?

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        girish
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        Also, Email -> Status. Are all the check marks green?

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          Also, Email -> Status. Are all the check marks green?

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          clouddaz
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          @girish, yes they are all green.

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            girish
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            @clouddaz If you can send a test mail to test@cloudron.io (you can do this from email -> status -> send test mail), I can inspect the headers.

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              clouddaz
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              I've just sent it, but don't be surprised if it turns up in your spam folder. Thanks in advance for checking.

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                clouddaz
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                And I just noticed:

                Feb 14 01:02:24 [INFO] [-] [core] [outbound] Sending email as a transaction
                Feb 14 01:02:24 [NOTICE] [-] [dkim_sign] skipped: no private key for lily.dmnw.net
                Feb 14 01:02:24 [INFO] [-] [core] [outbound] Processing delivery for domain: cloudron.io
                Feb 14 01:02:24 EACCES: permission denied, open '/app/haraka-config/config/dkim/lily.dmnw.net/private'
                
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                  @clouddaz That does indeed seem like the problem.

                  On the server: Go to the directory /home/yellowtent/boxdata/mail/dkim/<domain>. It should have the public/private DKIM keys. Are they present? If they are present, then chown -R yellowtent:yellowtent /home/yellowtent/boxdata/mail/dkim and then go to services -> mail and restart it.

                  If they are not present, let me know, we have to see why they are not present (they are created at domain addition time).

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                    clouddaz
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                    Yes both DKIM keys are present. chown and mail restart were completed but still no DKIM or DMARC signing. This is the first domain (hostname) not a subsequent added domain, if that helps.

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                      @clouddaz Can you give us SSH access so I can debug the issue? Support -> Enable Remote support. Thanks!

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                        subven
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                        I have the same issue on my cloudron (standard plan). All checkmarks at SMTP Status are green. I use Mailjet (free account) at the moment to get around this issue.

                        2019-02-26T21:12:32.000Z EACCES: permission denied, open '/app/haraka-config/config/dkim/*****.******/private'
                        2019-02-26T21:12:32.000Z [NOTICE] [-] [dkim_sign] skipped: no private key for *****.******
                        
                        cloudron@h2812623:/home/yellowtent/boxdata/mail/dkim/*****.******$ ll
                        total 20
                        drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Jan  9 07:29 ./
                        drwxr-xr-x 3 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Dez  8 23:13 ../
                        -rw------- 1 yellowtent yellowtent  891 Dez  8 23:13 private
                        -rw-r--r-- 1 yellowtent yellowtent  272 Dez  8 23:13 public
                        -rw-r--r-- 1 yellowtent yellowtent    8 Dez  8 23:13 selector
                        

                        @girish please let us know if you figure out what causes this behavior.

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                          subven
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                          I noticed that some folders maybe have wrong permissions. "cloudron" is the user I used to install Cloudron (with sudo) on the server.
                          2019-02-28 22_24_43-root@h2812623_ _home_yellowtent_boxdata_mail.png
                          Most of the folders/files under /home/yellowtent are owned by yellowtent, some by root and a small percentage is owned by cloudron. Could this result in the error we see?

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                            girish
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                            This is fixed in 3.5.4 now.

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                              ruben
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                              I experienced the same issue today on a fresh new installation v4.0.0:

                              2019-05-10T11:54:20.000Z [INFO] [-] [core] [outbound] Sending email as a transaction
                              2019-05-10T11:54:20.000Z EACCES: permission denied, open '/app/haraka-config/config/dkim/mydomain.net/private'
                              2019-05-10T11:54:20.000Z [NOTICE] [-] [dkim_sign] skipped: no private key for mydomain.net
                              2019-05-10T11:54:20.000Z [INFO] [-] [core] [outbound] Processing delivery for domain: mail-tester.com
                              

                              so it seems that this bug is still out there...

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                                I experienced the same issue today on a fresh new installation v4.0.0:

                                2019-05-10T11:54:20.000Z [INFO] [-] [core] [outbound] Sending email as a transaction
                                2019-05-10T11:54:20.000Z EACCES: permission denied, open '/app/haraka-config/config/dkim/mydomain.net/private'
                                2019-05-10T11:54:20.000Z [NOTICE] [-] [dkim_sign] skipped: no private key for mydomain.net
                                2019-05-10T11:54:20.000Z [INFO] [-] [core] [outbound] Processing delivery for domain: mail-tester.com
                                

                                so it seems that this bug is still out there...

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                                @ruben 4.0.0 is out? how do I install? my cloudron checks for updates but says it's up to date??

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                                  I experienced the same issue today on a fresh new installation v4.0.0:

                                  2019-05-10T11:54:20.000Z [INFO] [-] [core] [outbound] Sending email as a transaction
                                  2019-05-10T11:54:20.000Z EACCES: permission denied, open '/app/haraka-config/config/dkim/mydomain.net/private'
                                  2019-05-10T11:54:20.000Z [NOTICE] [-] [dkim_sign] skipped: no private key for mydomain.net
                                  2019-05-10T11:54:20.000Z [INFO] [-] [core] [outbound] Processing delivery for domain: mail-tester.com
                                  

                                  so it seems that this bug is still out there...

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                                  subven
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                                  @ruben did you checked if the file exists? What are the file permissions/owner/group? Does the file contains a certificate? With cloudron 4.X.X you have the ability to re-setup DNS (maybe this fixes the issue?). What about renewing all certs (--> Domain)?

                                  @murgero cloudron is at v4.0.3 at the moment. Do you use a custom hoster image? I'm on a netcup image and the message popped up today. You're off topic by the way...

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                                    @ruben did you checked if the file exists? What are the file permissions/owner/group? Does the file contains a certificate? With cloudron 4.X.X you have the ability to re-setup DNS (maybe this fixes the issue?). What about renewing all certs (--> Domain)?

                                    @murgero cloudron is at v4.0.3 at the moment. Do you use a custom hoster image? I'm on a netcup image and the message popped up today. You're off topic by the way...

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                                      @ruben 4.0.0 is out? how do I install? my cloudron checks for updates but says it's up to date??

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                                      ruben
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                                      @subven yes, the file exists. These are the permissions:

                                      drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 May 10 10:33 ./
                                      drwxr-xr-x 4 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 May 10 11:27 ../
                                      -rw------- 1 yellowtent yellowtent  887 May 10 10:33 private
                                      -rw-r--r-- 1 yellowtent yellowtent  272 May 10 10:33 public
                                      -rw-r--r-- 1 yellowtent yellowtent    8 May 10 10:33 selector
                                      

                                      The DKIM-signing works after a chmod 777 private but I don't think that 's a sustainable solution.

                                      The 'renew all certs'-button does not seem te renew my certificates.
                                      My DNS-setup is 'wildcard', so I don't think it 's possible to re-setup dns?

                                      I just added an extra domain (with cloudron 4.0.3) and it results in the same permissions:

                                      drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 May 17 06:54 ./
                                      drwxr-xr-x 5 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 May 17 06:54 ../
                                      -rw------- 1 yellowtent yellowtent  887 May 17 06:54 private
                                      -rw-r--r-- 1 yellowtent yellowtent  272 May 17 06:54 public
                                      -rw-r--r-- 1 yellowtent yellowtent    8 May 17 06:54 selector
                                      
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                                        @clouddaz @ruben @subven Any of you still facing this issue? I would love to get to the bottom of this since I thought this got fixed, but clearly hasn't.

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                                          doomilation
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                                          @girish Hi, I can confirm that this issue is still there with 2 domains.
                                          Unfortunately I didn't check after a fresh install and just 1 domain.

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