Wireguard VPN
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Hi,
Implementation of WireGuard would be awesome.
Its a small but strong VPN Solution, based on newer Security Algorithms and is getting to build into Linux Kernel
Wireguard looks like it takes OpenVPN and IPSec out of Business ^^
Something about 4000 Lines of Code(instead of 400-600k) and open source
Official Website
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@Miggi I love the idea, however - One issue I see with this is the claim of being better than OpenVPN, but no certification by a reputable security firm like OpenVPN. I have tried Wireguard though - amazing how fast and easy it was to configure. But just not old enough to be considered stable - yet.
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Wireguard 1.0.0 is now audited, released and included in the Linux 5.6. Time to get the app going!
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@yusf Wouldn't it be great to combine it with Pi-hole, then you have an all-in-one "always safe home" connection? The apps (ie. iOS and MacOS) of Wireguard are btw absolutely great, always connection, fast, never failes and even after reboot immediately connects.
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Is there a wireguard UI in progress? We can probably re-purpose what @mehdi wrote for the OpenVPN app for wireguard as well.
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@girish there are a lot (too many) initiatives for a web GUI none really mature IMHO. Currently I use PIVPN (can also be installed on Ubuntu) with commandline, very easy, very simple and also with QR code (from the command line!)
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@murgero
Wireguard has been audited many times now. It is even upstreamed into the kernel.Replying to old comments is hard apparently.
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@yusf 100% this!! I actually already use it daily heheh
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@will My original response to this post was almost a year ago - so of course stuff has changed since........
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@murgero hahaah noted! I'll remove my reply!
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@will No worries mate
cheers! -
For interest I find this WG service decent. I have 1Gb fibre and it's able to achieve about 90% of that speed, whereas Open VPN (with pfSense on Vultr) I get about 20% of my bandwidth:
https://www.azirevpn.com/cfg/wireguard
And if any geeks are looking to relocate:
https://www.digital.je/choose-jersey/connectivity-and-network-infrastructure/
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@Miggi I am a big fan, too and are upvoting.
Please also see this thread:
https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1355/pi-hole-network-wide-ad-blocking/17?_=1594947401156
Together it makes even more sense.
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+1 - Been using WireGuard over OpenVPN for the past couple of months and prefer it!
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@girish Now that Adguard has been implemented. Any future plans for Wireguard?
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@dylightful I really hope so, OpenVPN from iOS and MacOS is dramatic (maybe also on other platforms?) and WireGuard is really fast, stateless and always on.
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Wireguard is also low on battery usage comparing to OpenVPN. (on Android at least)
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Yes, this would be incredible! +1
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Quite and polite bump
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@girish any update on Wireguard? has quite a few votes now
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@dylightful not really, we haven't started working on it. We just finished releasing 6.2.
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WG would be great! Absolutely. Openvpn is dead sorry (im mean Performance). Maybe for DSL fine, but if you have "normal " modern Conection >100mbit... WG ist almost alone, who can deliver really nice speed with pretty easy user friendly Installation.
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@kallados The best option at the moment is Nyr's WG script. Obviously means you have to create a new VM if you want to keep your Cloudron 'clean'.
Nevertheless, i agree OpenVPN is old news. Hopefully soon
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@dylightful I like this OpenVPN which is included on Cloudron. I use it 24/7. Pretty stable, easy to install, nice Frontend- great Stuff. Im really happy with. WG is for me just something like "next Step
10 gbit server and 250mbit cable at home and im not able to get >150mbit with OpenVpn. If i connect with WG... 220-230 is no problem at all. -
@kallados Oh absolutely! Cloudron's OpenVPN panel is great. However, have stopped using it since OpenVPN drains the hell out of my Android phone. Speed alongside with battery life WG is my daily driver!
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@dylightful Yeah OpenVPN battery drain is unfortunately real.
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B B B B Bump
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Please support Wireguard as well
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@sayedanowar9 i have broken 4 fingers crossing them too tightly...
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@dylightful My Domain wireguar.de ist ready on my Cloudron. Just WG missing ^^
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Can't be far away now right?
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@dylightful
I hope. OpenVPN is pretty stable, also the connection with AdGuard, but for some Reason is the Speed really weak. 12 cores, nvme, 64 gig ram and dedicated 1 gig port... And I come not over 50-70 maps. If I connect few more devices every single one achieve 50-70 Mbps.N8N, Redash, SQL, Jellifin and Metabase are the Reasons why I'm happy to pay for Cloudron. If I get Wireguard... I don't need really more
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@robi I'm Quality Specialist. We have over 10k Employees. Lot of Data
Google Sheets are fine, but not really usable if you need to handle big Data. Big Query is fine to, but I can't expect from every single Worker, that he can work with. Actually, seems to be SQL the best way.
Our Workers handle most time different Google Sheets. I use then N8N to import Data from these Sheets and running first optimization (like Format etc.)- then import to SQL. N8N handle also Minio S3 for me. My Workers importing some Data as *.csv to Minio and N8N handle them.
Metabase is pretty easy if you want just simple analyse like a Time Range and some Filters. Nice easy understandable Dashboard. SQL is messy, but for easy Question is fine. If i need better Solution (complicated Questions or refresh Avery X second etc.) then i use Redash. Clean SQL.
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@girish just for inspiration I found an easy way to configure and manage WireGuard in Docker:
https://github.com/WeeJeWel/wg-easy
This can make the long awaited WireGuard app on Cloudron also easy?
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@imc67 looks very interesting
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@imc67 said in Wireguard VPN:
@girish just for inspiration I found an easy way to configure and manage WireGuard in Docker:
https://github.com/WeeJeWel/wg-easy
This can make the long awaited WireGuard app on Cloudron also easy?
Pretty nice
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The lone survivor
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@dylightful We just pushed out jitsi last month or so and it's still stabilizing, so you know what's next then
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@girish Jitsi? What is this
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This may be useful for connecting devices/apps via WgVPN - https://github.com/stv0g/wiretrustee
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Another OSS project that has a nice Wireguard integration - Mistborn
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@girish bump
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@dylightful Ping ^^
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@kallados
https://github.com/ngoduykhanh/wireguard-uiPretty neat on this one. Because it already made on web gui.
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Even more useful now Contabo has a UK location, we can use this for our Hetzner Gemany hosted VDIs to tunnel out to the web in the UK for a better localised experience for our primarily UK users.
We're not here for a long time - but we are here for a good time :)
Jersey/UK
Work & Ecommerce Advice: https://brandlight.org
Personal & Software Tips: https://marcusquinn.com -
@marcusquinn said in Wireguard VPN:
we can use this for our Hetzner Gemany hosted VDIs to tunnel out to the web in the UK for a better localised experience for our primarily UK users.
That's sounds interesting, could you please elaborate?
As an aside, Contabo don't use renewable energy, which makes them climate criminals in my mind.
Here are the cheapest renewably powered VPS in UK I've found so far (in order of cheapness)
https://www.vpsserver.com/vps-london/
https://krystal.uk/cloud-vps
https://cloudabove.com/hosting/cloud-servers -
@girish said in Wireguard VPN:
so you know what's next then
Can we please get an update on Wireguard? Seems to be a lot of apps getting published that don't have anywhere near the number of votes as WG....
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@dylightful Yes, on our list. After 7.2 is completely rolled out (should be out later today).
Is your use case the same as the existing OpenVPN app use case? i.e a self service portal where Cloudron acts as the VPN server?
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@girish Our use-case would be using some mini-Cloudrons as relays for traffic from VDIs, so the users appear to be browsing from the country they are in, as opposed to where the VDI VPS is hosted.
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@girish Exactly like the OpenVPN app, Wireguard will provide MUCH better speed!
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For interest: ivpn.net comes recommended on privacytools.io with Wireguard very easily implemented and, formerly, I always found the Wireguard speed on azirevpn.com to be very fast.
