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What's coming in 6.0

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  • JOduMonTJ JOduMonT

    @mehdi said in What's coming in 6.0:

    self-hosting

    when you self hosts yourself you need to trust a lot of people
    all the people who work at your registrar, DNS and host company, their providers and 3rd parties, the developer of your hosting solution aka Cloudron, the developer of all these apps, ...
    then on the other side you have to trust every device on the network where you are currently connected which means all smartphones, eTV and iFreezer...

    Life is about trust

    do you trust me ๐Ÿ™‚

    but yeah I ear you
    and yeah, and the end trusting the GAFAM might be not that bad. ๐Ÿ’บ

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    #18

    @JOduMonT I think the world has change now there's more value in data than people released but capitalism knows and is both; competing to acquire, and exploiting, in ways beyond most people's imaginations - until they find election campaigning shenanigans but don't know what to do about it.

    So necessary to trust in services; yes.

    Trust them with your valuable and private data? ๐Ÿค”

    When Google is reading your shopping email confirmations and Facebook is reading everything with a "Like" script, I think it's a responsibility to have parts of your data world not visible to the marketing world.

    Privacy, encryption and permissions should be as essential in schooling for the Technology Revolution as literacy was for The Renaissance.

    So - data privacy politics for 6.1 anyone? ๐Ÿ˜

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    Development https://brandlight.org
    Life https://marcusquinn.com

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    • jdaviescoatesJ Offline
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      #19

      There are two things I'd really love to see in 6.0

      1. Domain-based admin rights. I want to be able to give people all the rights of an Administrator, but only for specific domain names.
      2. I love for Cloudron to become fully open source again ๐Ÿ™‚

      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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      • girishG Offline
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        #20

        @jdaviescoates said in What's coming in 6.0:

        Domain-based admin rights. I want to be able to give people all the rights of an Administrator, but only for specific domain names.

        Just getting 5.4 out now, but I wanted to make a post about how we plan to implement this under the "service provider setups" feature. I will try to make a post about it early next week since we will need some input anyway before we implement the feature.

        I love for Cloudron to become fully open source again ๐Ÿ™‚

        Yup, let's discuss there!

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        • girishG girish

          @jdaviescoates said in What's coming in 6.0:

          Domain-based admin rights. I want to be able to give people all the rights of an Administrator, but only for specific domain names.

          Just getting 5.4 out now, but I wanted to make a post about how we plan to implement this under the "service provider setups" feature. I will try to make a post about it early next week since we will need some input anyway before we implement the feature.

          I love for Cloudron to become fully open source again ๐Ÿ™‚

          Yup, let's discuss there!

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          #21

          Great stuff, thanks @girish ! ๐Ÿ™‚

          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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          • ultravioletU Offline
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            wrote on last edited by
            #22

            I would love to see the ability to use the + delimiter in emails e.g user+ebay@domain.com or user+pizza@domain.com.

            Other providers like Mailcow or Mail in a box have this feature and I find it quite handy when I am filtering spam into its own folder!

            Another email feature requests is the ability to create a temporary email from the cloudron admin portal for a logged in user. Mailcow has this feature and it is again quite handy.

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            • ultravioletU ultraviolet

              I would love to see the ability to use the + delimiter in emails e.g user+ebay@domain.com or user+pizza@domain.com.

              Other providers like Mailcow or Mail in a box have this feature and I find it quite handy when I am filtering spam into its own folder!

              Another email feature requests is the ability to create a temporary email from the cloudron admin portal for a logged in user. Mailcow has this feature and it is again quite handy.

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              imc67
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              wrote on last edited by imc67
              #23

              @ultraviolet itโ€™s already there, see docs: https://cloudron.io/documentation/email/#subaddresses-and-tags

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              • imc67I imc67

                @ultraviolet itโ€™s already there, see docs: https://cloudron.io/documentation/email/#subaddresses-and-tags

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                ultraviolet
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                #24

                @imc67 well you learn something new everyday!

                Suggestion for temporary email would be handy though!

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                • ultravioletU ultraviolet

                  @imc67 well you learn something new everyday!

                  Suggestion for temporary email would be handy though!

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                  #25

                  @ultraviolet Does Catch-all & Masquerading enabled help?

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                  • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                    @ultraviolet Does Catch-all & Masquerading enabled help?

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                    #26

                    @marcusquinn said in What's coming in 6.0:

                    @ultraviolet Does Catch-all & Masquerading enabled help?

                    Yes I use mainly a catchall with alias for email want to use to reply
                    it is something I was doing with MailCow and it work well with Cloudron too.

                    The only thing in Cloudron you need one catchall per domain while it was possible to alias
                    catchall@domain2.tld to catchall@domain1.tld in MailCow

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                    • marcusquinnM Offline
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                      #27

                      If I can add File Permissions management to the Wishlist for the nice new File Manager please.

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                      Development https://brandlight.org
                      Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                      • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                        If I can add File Permissions management to the Wishlist for the nice new File Manager please.

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                        #28

                        @marcusquinn said in What's coming in 6.0:

                        If I can add File Permissions management to the Wishlist for the nice new File Manager please.

                        Seeing the screenshot in girish's post here (more precisely the icons of the actions on the right), I think it's already done for the next version ๐Ÿ™‚

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                          #29

                          Actually the screenshot was only a work-in-progress. The action buttons made it too cluttered so those went into the context menu. There is also an action to at least change the owner to the typical ones we currently use in apps.

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                          • nebulonN nebulon

                            Actually the screenshot was only a work-in-progress. The action buttons made it too cluttered so those went into the context menu. There is also an action to at least change the owner to the typical ones we currently use in apps.

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                            mehdi
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                            #30

                            @nebulon A context menu ! These are quite rare on the web, so I would never have guessed to try it, but yeah it's really neat

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                            • nebulonN nebulon

                              Actually the screenshot was only a work-in-progress. The action buttons made it too cluttered so those went into the context menu. There is also an action to at least change the owner to the typical ones we currently use in apps.

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                              #31

                              @nebulon Ahh, I see. Perhaps it could so with a ... at the end of the row to click as well to show that ๐Ÿ™‚

                              For interest, I get "Cloudron Error" when trying to navigate into the Contents directory on my Ghost install. Guessing maybe file permissions or bug?

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                              Development https://brandlight.org
                              Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                              • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                @nebulon Ahh, I see. Perhaps it could so with a ... at the end of the row to click as well to show that ๐Ÿ™‚

                                For interest, I get "Cloudron Error" when trying to navigate into the Contents directory on my Ghost install. Guessing maybe file permissions or bug?

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                                #32

                                @marcusquinn They just pushed a 5.4.1 version to fix a bug when navigating symlinks. Maybe ghosts Contents is actually a symlink and that's what you're hitting ?

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                                • mehdiM mehdi

                                  @marcusquinn They just pushed a 5.4.1 version to fix a bug when navigating symlinks. Maybe ghosts Contents is actually a symlink and that's what you're hitting ?

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                                  #33

                                  @mehdi Cool - will test again now. The error also seems to trigger Ghost to run out of memory and restart. Will test again after updating...

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                                  • mehdiM mehdi

                                    @marcusquinn They just pushed a 5.4.1 version to fix a bug when navigating symlinks. Maybe ghosts Contents is actually a symlink and that's what you're hitting ?

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                                    #34

                                    @mehdi Confirmed - fixed - great work going on here! ๐Ÿ™Œ

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                                    Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                                    • JOduMonTJ JOduMonT

                                      would be nice, but also a big task, to take advantage of Cloudflare proxy for some apps such as

                                      • Nextcloud
                                      • WordPress
                                      • GravCMS

                                      and not simply using it as a DNS manager.

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                                      marcusquinn
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                                      #35

                                      @JOduMonT Question: what features of Cloudflare Proxy do you like? Just thinking most of it can be done another way anyway.

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                                      Development https://brandlight.org
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                                        ty @girish for the update, we are working on OpenLiteSpeed image for WP, we are having some issue with the config file, but we hope to have a beta soon.

                                        Matteo. R.
                                        Founder and Tech-Support Manager.
                                        MooCloud MSP
                                        Swiss Managed Service Provider

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                                        • girishG girish

                                          We are continuing to work on getting many more of the apps published, see the WIP tag. Thanks to the community for really helping us out here!

                                          CHANGE IN PLANS: As mentioned in the 5.4 post, we decided to release some of the features listed here in an intermediary release. I have marked the features below as such.

                                          UPDATE 2: There is now a 5.5

                                          UPDATE 3: There is now a 5.6

                                          UPDATE 4: 6.0

                                          6.0 will be a feature rich release:

                                          • Focal support
                                          • Mailbox sharing - we tried IMAP based mailbox sharing but this doesn't work well for the apps we have. We will instead make it such that a single mailbox can have multiple owners.
                                          • Optimize WP and Nextcloud installations. This is not directly related to box code but we want to speeden things up and optimize the configs since we have a large number of installs with these 2 apps. @MooCloud_Matt has given us a lot of ideas to work with here.
                                          • Unified dashboard for multiple cloudron setups - This will provide a unified auth across cloudron setups plus a single dashboard to control multiple cloudrons. Details are still being worked on and I will post it once I have more info.
                                          • Fix access control for service provider setups - There's a few small issues. Service providers wants admin flag per app, better control of SFTP user management and also to unify PHPMyAdmin across apps. We will see what we can do.
                                          • Mail - Full text search via IMAP (solr integration)

                                          Already released

                                          • (5.4) Dark mode for dashboard
                                          • (5.4) File manager UI to edit the files inside apps. For the initial version, one can only view and edit the files under /app/data (i.e one cannot view the files in the read-only parts of the file system. this is because of some technical reasons)
                                          • (5.5) Backup upload/download speed - Currently, backups can be quite slow but we have some ideas to speed it up
                                          • (5.4) Allow admin to lock email and display name globally. This essentially makes the LDAP directory non-editable by normal users.
                                          • (5.5) Allow backup and update time to be set. Currently, this is all hard coded and it's causing problems for people working in the night ๐Ÿ™‚
                                          • (5.6) Mail: Configurable mail server settings - whitelist/blacklist, max message size, tls configuration. In the next release after 6.0, we will make spam settings configurable.
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                                          @girish said in What's coming in 6.0:

                                          Unified dashboard for multiple cloudron setups - This will provide a unified auth across cloudron setups plus a single dashboard to control multiple cloudrons. Details are still being worked on and I will post it once I have more info.

                                          ๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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