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What's coming in 6.0 (take 2)

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    #103

    @atrilahiji Currently, one can only choose a user or a group. This was just the initial UI anyway for testing the backend. I think we probably need select box with groups like

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    @girish makes sense. Be good as an input-select box, so you can partial-type what you're looking for in the case of long lists.

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    @atrilahiji That was easy.

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    @marcusquinn Yes, it's searchable like the one in user's/group's view. The search only appears with more than 5 users.

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    @girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

    There is a section overload in the app configure view We are looking to reducing the list of sections in the left pane. It's making things hard to find.

    Hi @girish I'd like to help with this if you're interested.

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    @girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

    We haven't decided on the naming yet, but maybe Volumes can be instead renamed to External Media or something, if it clarifies things. Open to other suggestions as well.

    External media makes sense to me. Until the point Cloudron is able to backup these up (if that's something that will happen), I'd also have a tooltip saying 'External media is not included in Cloudron backups'.

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    @ei8fdb said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

    Hi @girish I'd like to help with this if you're interested.

    Thanks for opening that gitlab issue! We won't do it for the current release atleast since there is massive UI surgery going on already for translations. Let's pick this one up after Cloudron 6 release in a separate thread.

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    #110

    An update on this. The i18n is going along well, I think @nebulon is ~80% done. Once we are almost there, we will let you guys know in the translations thread. There is a large number of strings to be translated. We plan to ship Cloudron 6 with the code being translatable while the actual translations will be made available whenever they get ready.

    Email container now has solr integration! While search is fast and I can search body (and maybe in future release attachments as well), there is something strange about how IMAP searches work. It seems it will search only under INBOX without the mail client having support for ESEARCH IMAP extension. I am also trying to figure how various mail clients behave here. Hopefully, should get sorted out this week.

    Other features are done.

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    @girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

    An update on this. The i18n is going along well, I think @nebulon is ~80% done.

    Excellent and important work!

    Once we are almost there, we will let you guys know in the translations thread. There is a large number of strings to be translated. We plan to ship Cloudron 6 with the code being translatable while the actual translations will be made available whenever they get ready.

    Good plan

    Email container now has solr integration!

    Amazing!

    While search is fast and I can search body (and maybe in future release attachments as well),

    Attachments too would be excellent!

    there is something strange about how IMAP searches work. It seems it will search only under INBOX without the mail client having support for ESEARCH IMAP extension. I am also trying to figure how various mail clients behave here. Hopefully, should get sorted out this week.

    I could be way off mark here, but I've noticed in the past that lots of IMAP providers seem to put Sent and other folders as effectively subfolders of the inbox. Perhaps something to do with that?

    Other features are done.

    You're underselling yourself (tbf, that's always a good look).

    Personally I am very exciting about these "other features"!

    • Volumes!
    • Mailbox sharing!
    • Faster Nextcloud and WordPress!
    • Ubuntu 20.04 support! (Edit: tbh not particularly excited by this, because I'm more excited about having BBB on Cloudron and that isnt' even compatible with 18.04 yet!)

    These are all fantastic new features!

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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    @jdaviescoates said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

    Faster Nextcloud and WordPress!

    We have some test image with Nginx + WP, that i have already shared with @girish, in the next few day we will work with him on some special feature to make the manifest compatible with OLS base image that we have pretty much ready, and later we will work on WP and NextCloud performance boost.

    Probably next week, we will post some performance benchmarks of the new WP image, for both Nginx and OLS base image.

    Matteo. R.
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    @moocloud_matt oh you beat me to it.. was going to do Nginx based stack then add other webservers to the mix.

    Can't wait for your testing.. godspeed.

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    @jdaviescoates said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

    Edit: tbh not particularly excited by this, because I'm more excited about having BBB on Cloudron and that isnt' even compatible with 18.04 yet!

    And the worst is, they're explicitly putting all of the work in making BBB compatible with 18.04 first and they have no plans for 20.04.

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    @avatar1024 I'm not too bothered by that but yeah it's a bit mad they are still on 16.04

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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    #116

    @girish Absolutely. I wasn't suggesting to implement it "now-now". More the case of suggesting to gather data earlier (could be done at any time really), so that when it came to thinking about implementation, you had some data to base decisions on.

    To get enough data I'd suggest running the research for ~ 2-3 weeks. Analysis would be much quicker ~days. I'll happy to help with both.

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    #117

    Another brief update:

    • We added auth wall functionality that apps without any notion of login can use
    • i18n is mostly done, just lots of testing before we let translators do their work. @nebulon can give some updates on how the language is selected etc.
    • We added httpPaths functionality so that @MooCloud_Matt can work on his OLS app. Also, see https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/3755/apache-ols-and-nginx-custom-benchmarks/5
    • Reworked a lot of the internal dns stuff, so that we can have apps as dns servers (ad blocker apps)
    • solr fts search was merged today.

    Looks like we are set for a release next week!

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    @girish Did the TURN server API auth stuff make it in for Nextcloud high performance backend'ness?

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    replied to doodlemania2 on last edited by nebulon
    #119

    @doodlemania2 unfortunately not, in fact I forgot about it 😕

    I have put it now into milestone for 6.1 so this does not happen again. Sorry about that.

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    @girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

    solr fts search was merged today.

    This is great... but I'm intrigued to how exactly we'll be able to take advantage of it e.g. to search email/ files?

    Will Cloudron Roundcube/ Rainloop/ Sogo, Nextcloud Mail somehow automagically take advantage of solr? or what?

    I guess the same applies to Nextcloud files too - will search files on there somehow benefit from the power of solr?

    Thanks!

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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    @jdaviescoates said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

    Will Cloudron Roundcube/ Rainloop/ Sogo, Nextcloud Mail somehow automagically take advantage of solr? or what?

    That's the idea, yes. To keep excitement in control, from my testing, the fts has real benefits only if you lots of email (like say 2GB and more). You also need a lot of RAM to run solr (like 3GB). The feature is turned off by default for this reason.

    I guess the same applies to Nextcloud files too - will search files on there somehow benefit from the power of solr?

    Unfortunately, no. I think there was this nextcloud app called nextant back in the day which used solr. That app was however deprecated and they moved to this fulltextsearch app. The fulltextsearch app can have multiple backends but afaik there is only an elastic search backend (someone has to write a solr backend).

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    @girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

    That's the idea, yes. To keep excitement in control, from my testing, the fts has real benefits only if you lots of email (like say 2GB and more). You also need a lot of RAM to run solr (like 3GB). The feature is turned off by default for this reason.

    OK, thanks.

    I guess part of what I'm asking is does having solr enabled some allow for using some Gmail-style search operators like from: to: in:sent has:attachment etc?

    I'm guessing perhaps not and that such things would need to be built in/ added to the webmail clients themselves? But I'm unclear 🙂

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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