Who is selling hosted (and supported) Cloudron servers?

[scooke]

@jdaviescoates Do you mean selling the web service as Cloudron software, meaning, the client knows that they are paying for a Cloudron installation? Or do you mean selling webservices based on a self-hosted Cloudron? I have about 4 clients Wordpress sites hosted on my Cloudron, but none of them know how their Wordpress site is live, nor do I think they'd be interested necessarily to know about Cloudron, per se. I do have another client whose Wordpress site I've set up on a Cloudron install that will likely remain dedicate to just their site (because they may want email and chat options), so at some point I think I'll introduce them to the Cloudron backend.

Personally, I've been aiming to promote self-hosting, and totally see Cloudron as being an integral part of that to the clients I'm working with now, and and future ones. In some ways I might be losing income in that I'm trying to empower these users to eventually run with their Cloudron install on their own, but I also see that the service/maintenance/training side of things will probably still be needed.

[marcusquinn]

Not yet but planning something along these lines.

My feeling is things like Upwork are quite variable and time-consuming for qualifying freelancers, costing and pricing things, so thinking more along the lines of al-la-carte pricing that creates sustainable relationships between freelancers, teams, agencies & clients.

I'm looking at it from a slightly different point of view though, as retainers for expertise on a curated sub-set of the actual apps.

To me, the choice is nice but its for our experience to know each of the pros & cons and guide on the best selection for long-term support and ultimately make the apps invisible to getting on and using them with minimal support needs and invisible maintenance.

[marcusquinn]

In fact, I'm intending to start a thread on what I just said soon, just had a bunch of life stuff to balance.

I'm all-in on promoting Cloudron though, too much on my mind to write now but I can see a bright future, and have some interesting possibilities to bring to the party at some point. Sorry, not intending to be a mystery post, just gotta focus on a fair bit of life stuff first.

[3246]

@msbt I love your website and offer at https://bits.at/hosting

I am planning on offering a managed hosted Cloudron instance in the UK and wondered if you can share a little about your journey and whether you'd embark on it again.

I currently offer managed hosting services, primarily WordPress and M365. I use Cloudron a lot and would prefer to push OSS apps over reselling M365.

@marcusquinn how is https://brandlight.org using Cloudron?

PS Sorry to reviving an old corpse of a thread. I looked and there doesn't seem to be much by way of hosted/managed Cloudrons out there

[jdaviescoates]

@3246 said in Who is selling hosted (and supported) Cloudron servers?:

I looked and there doesn't seem to be much by way of hosted/managed Cloudrons out there

I'd still like to actually do something with https://selfhost.cloud one day - also selling hosted Cloudrons in the UK, so we should probably chat and share ideas.

I'm pretty sure @luckow also sells hosted Cloudrons too.

[3246]

Sounds good. I'd be up for that.

[marcusquinn]

@3246 Are you asking where to host for UK servers?

Hostinger has UK as an option, and Cloudron as a disk image on their VPS.

Hetzner has always been good for me, though, and you don't notice the latency for German hosted servers.

I don't know about it being a main business. Most of my software business is still web design, app development, and SEO.

You need to productise all services nowadays, there's not enough margin to give everyone personal custom services.

[jdaviescoates]

@marcusquinn said in Who is selling hosted (and supported) Cloudron servers?:

@3246 Are you asking where to host for UK servers?

I don't think so. I'm pretty sure @3246 is asking if anyone is selling hosted managed Cloudrons in the UK (like I was intending to do with https://selfhost.cloud )

[robi]

Looks like mooCloud split/dissolved into JAMflow
https://jamflow.cloud/moocloud
What all other Cloudron providers took up their slack?

[luckow]

Oh. I'm late to the party. Take a look at our new 30-day trial https://www.gesellschaft-zur-entwicklung-von-dingen.de/en/magazine/try-safeserver-assist-free-30-days
Sorry, most of the rest is in German

https://www.safeserver.de/

[andreasdueren]

@luckow Holy moly what a domain name

[avatar1024]

At Catalyst Collective we provide some hosting services to several organisations using Cloudron but we don't advertise it at all or have the capacity to develop it as a proper business stream (I'm the only one doing it and already have too many other work streams). I'd love to see a UK offering and I'd be happy to help setting it up.

[avatar1024]

@jdaviescoates said in Who is selling hosted (and supported) Cloudron servers?:

https://autonomic.zone/ were offering it too, but I'm not sure they do anymore now that Cloudron is no longer open source.

They indeed stopped doing it when Cloudron changed the license.

[jdaviescoates]

@avatar1024 let's get together online with @3246 sometime after 10 Aug (I'm on an interrail adventure until then) and try to make something happen!

[jdaviescoates]

said in Who is selling hosted (and supported) Cloudron servers?:

@avatar1024 let's get together online with @3246 sometime after 10 Aug (I'm on an interrail adventure until then) and try to make something happen!

@3246 @avatar1024 are you still both up for discussing this? When would be good for you? Which self-hosted Cloudron meeting app shall we meet on?

[avatar1024]

@jdaviescoates said in Who is selling hosted (and supported) Cloudron servers?:

@3246 @avatar1024 are you still both up for discussing this? When would be good for you? Which self-hosted Cloudron meeting app shall we meet on?

Sorry for the delayed response, things have been tricky lately. I'd be keen to meet, from 15th Sept is clearer on my end. Happy to use my MiroTalk instance

[BrutalBirdie]

I am also offering Cloudron hosting including licenses with discounts.

[jdaviescoates]

@BrutalBirdie said in Who is selling hosted (and supported) Cloudron servers?:

I am also offering Cloudron hosting including licenses with discounts.

Got a link with details?

[BrutalBirdie]

@jdaviescoates yes and no
I've started this business this July, and I am still operating on a mouth-to-mouth basis.
Already did hint some things here and there like https://forum.cloudron.io/post/109822
But if you want some details, you can send me a DM

[marcusquinn]

@BrutalBirdie ahahah - hope you meant word-of-mouth