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    • robiR Offline
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      robi
      wrote on last edited by
      #1

      What do you all think about having a regular weekly event to package an important App as a group in a live session, maybe even live streamed, where anyone on the call can also contribute their small part, so one person doesn't have to slog through it all by themselves?

      Others can watch and learn and ask questions & chit chat.

      Any volunteers?

      Conscious tech

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      • robiR robi

        What do you all think about having a regular weekly event to package an important App as a group in a live session, maybe even live streamed, where anyone on the call can also contribute their small part, so one person doesn't have to slog through it all by themselves?

        Others can watch and learn and ask questions & chit chat.

        Any volunteers?

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        mario
        App Dev
        wrote on last edited by
        #2

        @robi a regular weekly might be a stretch, but I'm up for both learning & helping others πŸ™‚

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        • marioM mario

          @robi a regular weekly might be a stretch, but I'm up for both learning & helping others πŸ™‚

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          doodlemania2
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          #3

          @mario same! with particular emphasis on testing! hehe

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          • robiR Offline
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            robi
            wrote on last edited by
            #4

            Okay, that's great. Interest piqued.

            We need:

            • A host
            • Date & time (cal invites)
            • Task schedule breakdown (so ppl can sign up to do ____ )
            • Gitpod or similar to collab on same project live
            • Remote meeting setup
            • Live streaming setup (optional)
            • ...

            What else?

            Conscious tech

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              girish
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              #5

              Weekly is tough for me as well but can do maybe bi-weekly or maybe monthly πŸ™‚ Are you think more like a group hackathon (where everyone works on whatever they want) or like a live coding stream where one codes and others watch ? Or a mix of both. I have no clue what tools are best suited for this sort of thing.

              (Also, I cannot do this year, can join from 2021. @nebulon and I are taking turns taking time off during xmas time, it's quite hectic).

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              • girishG girish

                Weekly is tough for me as well but can do maybe bi-weekly or maybe monthly πŸ™‚ Are you think more like a group hackathon (where everyone works on whatever they want) or like a live coding stream where one codes and others watch ? Or a mix of both. I have no clue what tools are best suited for this sort of thing.

                (Also, I cannot do this year, can join from 2021. @nebulon and I are taking turns taking time off during xmas time, it's quite hectic).

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                ruihildt
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                #6

                Interested in participating in something like this.

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                  msbt
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                  #7

                  VS Code has a live share feature where 5 people can actively develop at the same time and maybe more that can watch (not necessarily needed when there's a livestream going), maybe that could work

                  As some already mentioned, weekly is a bit steep, but I would love to join those!

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                    #8

                    I think it would be cool to have a Cloudron hackathon bi-weekly or monthly. I don't mind helping to organize something like this. 1000000000% down. There are so many thing I want to package but have very little spare time to commit to doing it right (eg. me completely dropping Strider CI).

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                    • njN Offline
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                      #9

                      I'm in for this too. I haven't packaged an app yet, but only because of lack of confidence. It would be awesome to see someone do it, and later be able to help others do the same!

                      Founder / Coder β€’ My Apps

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                        thetomester13
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                        wrote on last edited by thetomester13
                        #10

                        I love this idea. Very down for the bi-weekly/monthly idea. I can take a 'timeslot' maybe mid-January or so. I've been eyeing packaging Traccar for a while now...

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                          #11

                          Should make this Pay Per View πŸ˜‚

                          That or the good karma will be forever yours immortalised in commits πŸ™‚

                          Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                          Development https://brandlight.org
                          Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                            wrote on last edited by robi
                            #12

                            Thank you all for showing your interest.

                            There is something about a regular cadence that is safe, warm and fuzzy, but that does take commitment and someone to at least host it.

                            Sometimes a chunk of time frees up and if others are also around, it's nice to hop on and hack on a part live, but from the feedback I am seeing, this is more likely to happen with async participation which is very much like GitHub/GitLab development.

                            There is still a need for some set "office hacking hours" where folks can come to learn and gain more confidence then go out and contribute a part to an App in packaging progress.

                            Until then, one such event has been recorded by @fbartels

                            Next we may need a running set of 3-5 Apps started with the right template(s), so that people actually have someplace to contribute to.

                            Then what you learn from the live "office hacking hours", you can apply the knowledge of moving config files, linking from the RO filesystem, adding to the Cloudron manifest and so on.

                            For this to work well, we shouldn't have dibs on doing x and run into not having it done/waiting, but only doing or not, so someone else can. Just do it.

                            And we shouldn't expect @girish or @nebulon to join as they have their hands full. If they somehow manage to, it's a bonus treat we shall cherish.

                            We're doing this to help them and ourselves get Apps packaged in a faster pace than any one of us can do on their own.

                            So who can host "office hacking hours" for 30-60m this year?

                            Who can set up and maintain a list of 3-5 Apps we desperately need?

                            • N8n.io
                            • Zulip?
                            • Odoo?

                            Who can get the repos to get us started?

                            Who can make a video on how to write and do test coverage?

                            Conscious tech

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                            • robiR robi

                              Thank you all for showing your interest.

                              There is something about a regular cadence that is safe, warm and fuzzy, but that does take commitment and someone to at least host it.

                              Sometimes a chunk of time frees up and if others are also around, it's nice to hop on and hack on a part live, but from the feedback I am seeing, this is more likely to happen with async participation which is very much like GitHub/GitLab development.

                              There is still a need for some set "office hacking hours" where folks can come to learn and gain more confidence then go out and contribute a part to an App in packaging progress.

                              Until then, one such event has been recorded by @fbartels

                              Next we may need a running set of 3-5 Apps started with the right template(s), so that people actually have someplace to contribute to.

                              Then what you learn from the live "office hacking hours", you can apply the knowledge of moving config files, linking from the RO filesystem, adding to the Cloudron manifest and so on.

                              For this to work well, we shouldn't have dibs on doing x and run into not having it done/waiting, but only doing or not, so someone else can. Just do it.

                              And we shouldn't expect @girish or @nebulon to join as they have their hands full. If they somehow manage to, it's a bonus treat we shall cherish.

                              We're doing this to help them and ourselves get Apps packaged in a faster pace than any one of us can do on their own.

                              So who can host "office hacking hours" for 30-60m this year?

                              Who can set up and maintain a list of 3-5 Apps we desperately need?

                              • N8n.io
                              • Zulip?
                              • Odoo?

                              Who can get the repos to get us started?

                              Who can make a video on how to write and do test coverage?

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                              marcusquinn
                              wrote on last edited by marcusquinn
                              #13

                              @robi Something that might help is a session dedicated to just the test writing aspect, as I see many apps get packaged but then don't get into the store while they await that stage if I understand correctly? SO that would include:

                              • Croodle?
                              • Loomio?
                              • Im' sure some others?

                              Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                              Development https://brandlight.org
                              Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                              • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                @robi Something that might help is a session dedicated to just the test writing aspect, as I see many apps get packaged but then don't get into the store while they await that stage if I understand correctly? SO that would include:

                                • Croodle?
                                • Loomio?
                                • Im' sure some others?
                                marcusquinnM Offline
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                                marcusquinn
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #14

                                @marcusquinn I always ask for those things I see as the greatest asset to the most, and that would include:

                                • 4minitz
                                • Croodle
                                • n8n.io
                                • Odoo
                                • Restyaboard
                                • Astuto
                                • NodeRED
                                • Akaunting
                                • Jitsi
                                • Vuls
                                • Pretix

                                Looking at the future of work, business, teams and life you could do a lot with all of those.

                                There's many more in the Wishlists but I think this list would round off the capabilities for most common needs I hear of on my travels and would use almost all of them personally so could contribute back to supporting others with that.

                                Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                                Development https://brandlight.org
                                Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                                • robiR robi

                                  Thank you all for showing your interest.

                                  There is something about a regular cadence that is safe, warm and fuzzy, but that does take commitment and someone to at least host it.

                                  Sometimes a chunk of time frees up and if others are also around, it's nice to hop on and hack on a part live, but from the feedback I am seeing, this is more likely to happen with async participation which is very much like GitHub/GitLab development.

                                  There is still a need for some set "office hacking hours" where folks can come to learn and gain more confidence then go out and contribute a part to an App in packaging progress.

                                  Until then, one such event has been recorded by @fbartels

                                  Next we may need a running set of 3-5 Apps started with the right template(s), so that people actually have someplace to contribute to.

                                  Then what you learn from the live "office hacking hours", you can apply the knowledge of moving config files, linking from the RO filesystem, adding to the Cloudron manifest and so on.

                                  For this to work well, we shouldn't have dibs on doing x and run into not having it done/waiting, but only doing or not, so someone else can. Just do it.

                                  And we shouldn't expect @girish or @nebulon to join as they have their hands full. If they somehow manage to, it's a bonus treat we shall cherish.

                                  We're doing this to help them and ourselves get Apps packaged in a faster pace than any one of us can do on their own.

                                  So who can host "office hacking hours" for 30-60m this year?

                                  Who can set up and maintain a list of 3-5 Apps we desperately need?

                                  • N8n.io
                                  • Zulip?
                                  • Odoo?

                                  Who can get the repos to get us started?

                                  Who can make a video on how to write and do test coverage?

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                                  thetomester13
                                  App Dev
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #15

                                  @robi I mentioned previously, I'm not available in the coming weeks due to the Holiday's and family, but am open to hosting around mid-January! I've been wanting to package Traccar, but can also look at some other options in the App Wishlist to see if there's something interesting with a higher vote.

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                                  • T thetomester13

                                    @robi I mentioned previously, I'm not available in the coming weeks due to the Holiday's and family, but am open to hosting around mid-January! I've been wanting to package Traccar, but can also look at some other options in the App Wishlist to see if there's something interesting with a higher vote.

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                                    #16

                                    @thetomester13 Jitsi is one I’d definitely like to see as well. I guess I can host but after the 25th. I guess I don’t know how to best host this or what to plan and what my role would be????? What should something like this look like to you guys

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                                    • ? A Former User

                                      @thetomester13 Jitsi is one I’d definitely like to see as well. I guess I can host but after the 25th. I guess I don’t know how to best host this or what to plan and what my role would be????? What should something like this look like to you guys

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                                      thetomester13
                                      App Dev
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #17

                                      @atrilahiji I wasn't present at the one @fbartels did, but I'm assuming the host is sharing their screen and working their way through packaging an app. Maybe even in a kind of similar fashion to your video about packaging a static site through GitLab, just more interactive, where people can stop and ask questions along the way. Just my thoughts.

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                                        #18

                                        Maybe Atheos is something to package first so we have a shared IDE for the next one?

                                        If we can get a crack team that is good at all the different parts of packaging without stepping over each other, it'll be an avalanche of new apps!

                                        Conscious tech

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                                        • robiR robi

                                          Maybe Atheos is something to package first so we have a shared IDE for the next one?

                                          If we can get a crack team that is good at all the different parts of packaging without stepping over each other, it'll be an avalanche of new apps!

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                                          doodlemania2
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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #19

                                          @robi I did VS Code if that helps?

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                                            Anyone tried Atom's shared coding feature?

                                            Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                                            Development https://brandlight.org
                                            Life https://marcusquinn.com

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