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  • robiR robi

    Thank you all for showing your interest.

    There is something about a regular cadence that is safe, warm and fuzzy, but that does take commitment and someone to at least host it.

    Sometimes a chunk of time frees up and if others are also around, it's nice to hop on and hack on a part live, but from the feedback I am seeing, this is more likely to happen with async participation which is very much like GitHub/GitLab development.

    There is still a need for some set "office hacking hours" where folks can come to learn and gain more confidence then go out and contribute a part to an App in packaging progress.

    Until then, one such event has been recorded by @fbartels

    Next we may need a running set of 3-5 Apps started with the right template(s), so that people actually have someplace to contribute to.

    Then what you learn from the live "office hacking hours", you can apply the knowledge of moving config files, linking from the RO filesystem, adding to the Cloudron manifest and so on.

    For this to work well, we shouldn't have dibs on doing x and run into not having it done/waiting, but only doing or not, so someone else can. Just do it.

    And we shouldn't expect @girish or @nebulon to join as they have their hands full. If they somehow manage to, it's a bonus treat we shall cherish.

    We're doing this to help them and ourselves get Apps packaged in a faster pace than any one of us can do on their own.

    So who can host "office hacking hours" for 30-60m this year?

    Who can set up and maintain a list of 3-5 Apps we desperately need?

    • N8n.io
    • Zulip?
    • Odoo?

    Who can get the repos to get us started?

    Who can make a video on how to write and do test coverage?

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    @robi I mentioned previously, I'm not available in the coming weeks due to the Holiday's and family, but am open to hosting around mid-January! I've been wanting to package Traccar, but can also look at some other options in the App Wishlist to see if there's something interesting with a higher vote.

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    • T thetomester13

      @robi I mentioned previously, I'm not available in the coming weeks due to the Holiday's and family, but am open to hosting around mid-January! I've been wanting to package Traccar, but can also look at some other options in the App Wishlist to see if there's something interesting with a higher vote.

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      @thetomester13 Jitsi is one I’d definitely like to see as well. I guess I can host but after the 25th. I guess I don’t know how to best host this or what to plan and what my role would be????? What should something like this look like to you guys

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        @thetomester13 Jitsi is one I’d definitely like to see as well. I guess I can host but after the 25th. I guess I don’t know how to best host this or what to plan and what my role would be????? What should something like this look like to you guys

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        @atrilahiji I wasn't present at the one @fbartels did, but I'm assuming the host is sharing their screen and working their way through packaging an app. Maybe even in a kind of similar fashion to your video about packaging a static site through GitLab, just more interactive, where people can stop and ask questions along the way. Just my thoughts.

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          #18

          Maybe Atheos is something to package first so we have a shared IDE for the next one?

          If we can get a crack team that is good at all the different parts of packaging without stepping over each other, it'll be an avalanche of new apps!

          Conscious tech

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          • robiR robi

            Maybe Atheos is something to package first so we have a shared IDE for the next one?

            If we can get a crack team that is good at all the different parts of packaging without stepping over each other, it'll be an avalanche of new apps!

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            @robi I did VS Code if that helps?

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              Anyone tried Atom's shared coding feature?

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              • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

                @robi I did VS Code if that helps?

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                @doodlemania2 as in a tutorial on how to set it up and use it? or how to share a project collaboratively?

                Either will be useful really.

                Conscious tech

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                  https://teletype.atom.io/

                  Not use VSC but guess that has something similar?

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                  • robiR robi

                    @doodlemania2 as in a tutorial on how to set it up and use it? or how to share a project collaboratively?

                    Either will be useful really.

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                    @robi both - such inception! 🙂

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                      #24

                      A couple of VS Code chat options:

                      • https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=karigari.chat (if it works)
                      • https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=Ademking.vschat

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                        Can we get back to this and start packaging Apps?

                        Who's in?

                        Any progress we make will help @staff not have to start from scratch and gets us closer to an app in the App Store.

                        Conscious tech

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                        • robiR robi

                          Can we get back to this and start packaging Apps?

                          Who's in?

                          Any progress we make will help @staff not have to start from scratch and gets us closer to an app in the App Store.

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                          doodlemania2
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                          @robi I'd be delighted to get any help available to wrap up paperlessng - it seems pretty straight forward (still working through it), leverages many of the features we need across many apps (supervisor, pgsql, redis), fun with sed, sadly no ldap auth... if we can find a good time, i'd be happy to do the event and walk through how I package up to the point I'm stuck haha - stuck just do to time, but perhaps we could crowdsource getting it across the goal line

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                            @robi I'd be delighted to get any help available to wrap up paperlessng - it seems pretty straight forward (still working through it), leverages many of the features we need across many apps (supervisor, pgsql, redis), fun with sed, sadly no ldap auth... if we can find a good time, i'd be happy to do the event and walk through how I package up to the point I'm stuck haha - stuck just do to time, but perhaps we could crowdsource getting it across the goal line

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                            @doodlemania2 Roughly how long do you think a session would be? I can try and gather a number of devs, they are on the timezone GMT +3. From experience working across timezones something like 2-3pm GMT tends to cover most from west to east.

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                              @robi I'd be delighted to get any help available to wrap up paperlessng - it seems pretty straight forward (still working through it), leverages many of the features we need across many apps (supervisor, pgsql, redis), fun with sed, sadly no ldap auth... if we can find a good time, i'd be happy to do the event and walk through how I package up to the point I'm stuck haha - stuck just do to time, but perhaps we could crowdsource getting it across the goal line

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                              thetomester13
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                              @doodlemania2 I'd be happy to (try and) help! I'm on EST so weekday evenings are good typically or weekend mornings. I'm not super proficient with packaging apps but have done a few before so can try and help get you through where you're stuck.

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                              • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                @doodlemania2 Roughly how long do you think a session would be? I can try and gather a number of devs, they are on the timezone GMT +3. From experience working across timezones something like 2-3pm GMT tends to cover most from west to east.

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                                doodlemania2
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                                @marcusquinn I'd say let's start with a one hour session and then we can work async offline to push it through if there is sufficient interest?

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                                • T thetomester13

                                  @doodlemania2 I'd be happy to (try and) help! I'm on EST so weekday evenings are good typically or weekend mornings. I'm not super proficient with packaging apps but have done a few before so can try and help get you through where you're stuck.

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                                  @thetomester13 feel free to jump in on the repo if you'd like to help out - i can do it all, just haven't had the time. Whatever's left when we do the packaging event can be spent going through it from start to finish, talking about best practices (of which I am by no means the authority) and where we want to go from here.

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                                  • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

                                    @thetomester13 feel free to jump in on the repo if you'd like to help out - i can do it all, just haven't had the time. Whatever's left when we do the packaging event can be spent going through it from start to finish, talking about best practices (of which I am by no means the authority) and where we want to go from here.

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                                    @doodlemania2 tbh, I was hoping to go through it during the live session, debugging in tandem can be pretty powerful. That being said, if I get a chance between now and then, what hiccups exactly are you coming across? Haven't cloned it and ran it yet, but looks to be a good amount of the way there!

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                                    • T thetomester13

                                      @doodlemania2 tbh, I was hoping to go through it during the live session, debugging in tandem can be pretty powerful. That being said, if I get a chance between now and then, what hiccups exactly are you coming across? Haven't cloned it and ran it yet, but looks to be a good amount of the way there!

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                                      doodlemania2
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                                      @thetomester13 you bet - you're welcome of course to wait. No hiccups, just haven't had time to finish it and thought this might be a good one to get into the store.

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                                        Good example of when having Croodle available would be good for polling preferred times & days 🙂

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                                        • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                          Good example of when having Croodle available would be good for polling preferred times & days 🙂

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                                          @marcusquinn You can use the polls app in nextcloud and chuck out a public link, obviously not quite as simple as croodle, but nice if you are already using nextcloud

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