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What's coming in 7.0 (was 6.4)

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  • girishG Offline
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    girish
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    #51

    There's a link in the profile page now to send password reset request:

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    • girishG Offline
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      #52

      POP3 support is enabled on the server but it's disabled for all mailboxes by default. It has to enabled per mailbox.

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        #53

        So, the status of the release is that mailbox forwarding is being worked on. Once that is done, we will cut a release.

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        • d19dotcaD Offline
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          #54

          Getting excited for 6.4 (especially since it fixes a bug that's currently keeping me locked in-place with my current hosting provider), and all the amazing improvements particularly around email! 🙂

          Was just wondering if there was an ETA for us. I know I asked about 11 days ago, just really looking forward to it. haha.

          Also a slightly selfish reason for asking... it'll save me from having to pay another month of hosting from my current host if I can migrate off before end of this month if that other defect is fixed which is supposed to be fixed with 6.4, not a ton of time left for me to plan it out since it has to be in the middle of the night (i.e. weekends only, 3 weekends left and I'm guessing this weekend will be too soon, so really only 2 weekends left for me to do this migration so I'm getting a bit antsy). 😉

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          Dustin Dauncey
          www.d19.ca

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          • d19dotcaD d19dotca

            Getting excited for 6.4 (especially since it fixes a bug that's currently keeping me locked in-place with my current hosting provider), and all the amazing improvements particularly around email! 🙂

            Was just wondering if there was an ETA for us. I know I asked about 11 days ago, just really looking forward to it. haha.

            Also a slightly selfish reason for asking... it'll save me from having to pay another month of hosting from my current host if I can migrate off before end of this month if that other defect is fixed which is supposed to be fixed with 6.4, not a ton of time left for me to plan it out since it has to be in the middle of the night (i.e. weekends only, 3 weekends left and I'm guessing this weekend will be too soon, so really only 2 weekends left for me to do this migration so I'm getting a bit antsy). 😉

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            #55

            @d19dotca we plan to release next week, for sure.

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              wrote on last edited by girish
              #56

              Possibly final update: the manual tests went fine. We are just getting the e2e tests to pass and then we are good.

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              • girishG girish

                Possibly final update: the manual tests went fine. We are just getting the e2e tests to pass and then we are good.

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                @girish will this be out later today by any chance?

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                Dustin Dauncey
                www.d19.ca

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                • d19dotcaD d19dotca

                  @girish will this be out later today by any chance?

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                  @d19dotca it is still in our end to end tests....

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                  • d19dotcaD d19dotca

                    @girish will this be out later today by any chance?

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                    wrote on last edited by girish
                    #59

                    @d19dotca I will contact you from support, I think we can fix up your instance so you are not blocked by this.

                    Main issue is DO DNS is really letting us down this week. It keeps failing sporadically causing our tests to fail.

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                    • girishG Offline
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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #60

                      As a heads up, this release will get published as Cloudron 7.0 and not 6.4 . It's because we stop supporting Ubuntu 16 from this major version and also the format of backups have changed.

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                      • girishG girish

                        As a heads up, this release will get published as Cloudron 7.0 and not 6.4 . It's because we stop supporting Ubuntu 16 from this major version and also the format of backups have changed.

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                        #61

                        @girish 😮 👏 🙌

                        Conscious tech

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                        • girishG girish

                          As a heads up, this release will get published as Cloudron 7.0 and not 6.4 . It's because we stop supporting Ubuntu 16 from this major version and also the format of backups have changed.

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                          adeelahmad
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                          @girish Take it easy no pressue or rush. We understnad things take time. Love all of your work. Keep up the Good Work please!

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                          • girishG girish

                            This will mostly have email related improvements. There's also a few last mail related migrations to do for multi-host in Cloudron 8 (everything else is migrated, yay).

                            • Better email monitoring/visibility for admins. @d19dotca raised many important posts and there's also existing ones. We have to read the posts in more detail and discuss internally before we give more details on what we plan to do here.
                            • Add easier way to setup mailbox redirects
                            • Add way to setup sieve rules for mailboxes from the dashboard itself. One way we are thinking of doing this is to simply expose mail data via the file manager. Just like how app data is also exposed via file manager. Just to make it easier to use, we will probably add "download"/"restore" action in the mailbox view to add on top of this.
                            • Backup mail data separately (instead of as part of box code). This will allow restoring and backing up mail stuff separately just like it's an app.
                            • Add a way to run cronjobs (per app?)
                            • Operator role for specific app. This new role will allow assigning a user as "operator" for some apps and that user can then view logs, restart app, increase memory limit etc but without being a cloudron admin as such.
                            • Make it easy to install non-appstore apps.

                            EDIT: Since we stop supporting Ubuntu 16 from this release, we decided to call this Cloudron 7.0 and not 6.4.

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                            LoudLemur
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                            @girish

                            It is a pity you can't hear the loud cheers and applause when you give us news like this.

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                              #64

                              Great job guys! Super long changelog, happy to see many of the changes included there! 🙂 I'm going to upgrade likely tomorrow night.

                              PS - Girish, the migration went well from you manually adding in the self-signed certs the other day. I really appreciate the awesome support and help with that! You guys rock!

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                              Dustin Dauncey
                              www.d19.ca

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                                Why are we allowing POP3? It's an old, outdated, and insecure mail protocol.

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                                https://urgero.org
                                ~ Professional Nerd. Freelance Programmer. ~

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                                • murgeroM murgero

                                  Why are we allowing POP3? It's an old, outdated, and insecure mail protocol.

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                                  @murgero : i think the dinosaurs were bellowing loudly

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                                  • murgeroM murgero

                                    Why are we allowing POP3? It's an old, outdated, and insecure mail protocol.

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                                    @murgero said in What's coming in 7.0 (was 6.4):

                                    Why are we allowing POP3? It's an old, outdated, and insecure mail protocol.

                                    For some reason it is still required for various things. e.g. Discourse reply-by-email features (as mad as that sounds), and I think perhaps sucking messages into Gmail too (which can help people to get started using Cloudron mail stuff before they are ready to fully transition away from where they've currently got everything)

                                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                    • murgeroM murgero

                                      Why are we allowing POP3? It's an old, outdated, and insecure mail protocol.

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                                      Staff
                                      wrote on last edited by girish
                                      #68

                                      @murgero mostly for compatibility with apps and some services that we cannot control. Admittedly, I didn't want to enable it but it was trivial to enable it in dovecot.

                                      It's also disabled by default for all mailboxes. We also only support POP3S (no plain POP3).

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                                      • murgeroM murgero

                                        Why are we allowing POP3? It's an old, outdated, and insecure mail protocol.

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                                        @murgero said in What's coming in 7.0 (was 6.4):

                                        Why are we allowing POP3? It's an old, outdated, and insecure mail protocol.

                                        TBH all mail protocols are outdated and insecure if compared so secure messenger protocols. Email cannot be fixed or made secure (think encryption or shit like HTML emails)

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                                        • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                                          @murgero said in What's coming in 7.0 (was 6.4):

                                          Why are we allowing POP3? It's an old, outdated, and insecure mail protocol.

                                          TBH all mail protocols are outdated and insecure if compared so secure messenger protocols. Email cannot be fixed or made secure (think encryption or shit like HTML emails)

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                                          @necrevistonnezr said in What's coming in 7.0 (was 6.4):

                                          all mail protocols are outdated and insecure if compared so secure messenger protocols

                                          ^this email was not designed as a secret medium. Unlike protocols such as matrix.

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