What's coming in 7.0 (was 6.4)
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Getting excited for 6.4 (especially since it fixes a bug that's currently keeping me locked in-place with my current hosting provider), and all the amazing improvements particularly around email!
Was just wondering if there was an ETA for us. I know I asked about 11 days ago, just really looking forward to it. haha.
Also a slightly selfish reason for asking... it'll save me from having to pay another month of hosting from my current host if I can migrate off before end of this month if that other defect is fixed which is supposed to be fixed with 6.4, not a ton of time left for me to plan it out since it has to be in the middle of the night (i.e. weekends only, 3 weekends left and I'm guessing this weekend will be too soon, so really only 2 weekends left for me to do this migration so I'm getting a bit antsy).
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Dustin Dauncey
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Getting excited for 6.4 (especially since it fixes a bug that's currently keeping me locked in-place with my current hosting provider), and all the amazing improvements particularly around email!
Was just wondering if there was an ETA for us. I know I asked about 11 days ago, just really looking forward to it. haha.
Also a slightly selfish reason for asking... it'll save me from having to pay another month of hosting from my current host if I can migrate off before end of this month if that other defect is fixed which is supposed to be fixed with 6.4, not a ton of time left for me to plan it out since it has to be in the middle of the night (i.e. weekends only, 3 weekends left and I'm guessing this weekend will be too soon, so really only 2 weekends left for me to do this migration so I'm getting a bit antsy).
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Possibly final update: the manual tests went fine. We are just getting the e2e tests to pass and then we are good.
@girish will this be out later today by any chance?
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Dustin Dauncey
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As a heads up, this release will get published as Cloudron 7.0 and not 6.4 . It's because we stop supporting Ubuntu 16 from this major version and also the format of backups have changed.
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As a heads up, this release will get published as Cloudron 7.0 and not 6.4 . It's because we stop supporting Ubuntu 16 from this major version and also the format of backups have changed.
@girish Take it easy no pressue or rush. We understnad things take time. Love all of your work. Keep up the Good Work please!
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This will mostly have email related improvements. There's also a few last mail related migrations to do for multi-host in Cloudron 8 (everything else is migrated, yay).
- Better email monitoring/visibility for admins. @d19dotca raised many important posts and there's also existing ones. We have to read the posts in more detail and discuss internally before we give more details on what we plan to do here.
- Add easier way to setup mailbox redirects
- Add way to setup sieve rules for mailboxes from the dashboard itself. One way we are thinking of doing this is to simply expose mail data via the file manager. Just like how app data is also exposed via file manager. Just to make it easier to use, we will probably add "download"/"restore" action in the mailbox view to add on top of this.
- Backup mail data separately (instead of as part of box code). This will allow restoring and backing up mail stuff separately just like it's an app.
- Add a way to run cronjobs (per app?)
- Operator role for specific app. This new role will allow assigning a user as "operator" for some apps and that user can then view logs, restart app, increase memory limit etc but without being a cloudron admin as such.
- Make it easy to install non-appstore apps.
EDIT: Since we stop supporting Ubuntu 16 from this release, we decided to call this Cloudron 7.0 and not 6.4.
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Great job guys! Super long changelog, happy to see many of the changes included there!
I'm going to upgrade likely tomorrow night.PS - Girish, the migration went well from you manually adding in the self-signed certs the other day. I really appreciate the awesome support and help with that! You guys rock!
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@murgero said in What's coming in 7.0 (was 6.4):
Why are we allowing POP3? It's an old, outdated, and insecure mail protocol.
For some reason it is still required for various things. e.g. Discourse reply-by-email features (as mad as that sounds), and I think perhaps sucking messages into Gmail too (which can help people to get started using Cloudron mail stuff before they are ready to fully transition away from where they've currently got everything)
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@murgero mostly for compatibility with apps and some services that we cannot control. Admittedly, I didn't want to enable it but it was trivial to enable it in dovecot.
It's also disabled by default for all mailboxes. We also only support POP3S (no plain POP3).
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@murgero said in What's coming in 7.0 (was 6.4):
Why are we allowing POP3? It's an old, outdated, and insecure mail protocol.
TBH all mail protocols are outdated and insecure if compared so secure messenger protocols. Email cannot be fixed or made secure (think encryption or shit like HTML emails)
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@murgero said in What's coming in 7.0 (was 6.4):
Why are we allowing POP3? It's an old, outdated, and insecure mail protocol.
TBH all mail protocols are outdated and insecure if compared so secure messenger protocols. Email cannot be fixed or made secure (think encryption or shit like HTML emails)
@necrevistonnezr said in What's coming in 7.0 (was 6.4):
all mail protocols are outdated and insecure if compared so secure messenger protocols
^this email was not designed as a secret medium. Unlike protocols such as matrix.
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@necrevistonnezr said in What's coming in 7.0 (was 6.4):
all mail protocols are outdated and insecure if compared so secure messenger protocols
^this email was not designed as a secret medium. Unlike protocols such as matrix.
@fbartels said in What's coming in 7.0 (was 6.4):
@necrevistonnezr said in What's coming in 7.0 (was 6.4):
all mail protocols are outdated and insecure if compared so secure messenger protocols
^this email was not designed as a secret medium. Unlike protocols such as matrix.
Exactly.
