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Jam is an Open Source alternative to Clubhouse, Twitter Spaces and similar audio spaces.
With Jam you can create Jams which are audio rooms that can be used for panel discussions, jam sessions, free flowing conversations, debates, theatre plays, musicals and more. The only limit is your imagination.

https://gitlab.com/jam-systems/jam
https://jam.systems/

https://github.com/nurdism/neko (fork: https://github.com/m1k1o/neko/)

This app uses Web RTC to stream a desktop inside of a docker container, I made this because rabb.it went under and my internet can't handle streaming and discord keeps crashing when my friend attempts to. I just want to watch anime with my friends ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) so I started digging throughout the internet and found a few kinda clones, but none of them had the virtual browser, then I found Turtus and I was able to figure out the rest. This is by no means a fully featured clone of rabbit, it hs only one room. It's stateless, so no saved user names or passwords.

Thank you for having me here. Here at the Cloudron Community. Today marks the beginning of the third snow in Berlin. I want to send you an impression of my day before Christmas. Have a nice time. See you soon

spring/summer in Berlin. Have fun.

4 hours after installation, my first Typebot is live. I love it.
It's a replacement for a boring and complex form. Let's see how the conversion rate is.

First of all: Thank you for this thread. I like it

My name is Stephan Luckow and before I did "something with computers" I made a bet that I would be successful as a musician (playing bass guitar). But that was a dream in the mid 90s. Btw: this was our contribution to the European song contest in 1994 -> https://peertube.luckow.org/videos/watch/53b4c661-a308-44ab-9491-de6f14daa90b

In 1995 I founded my first Internet full-service agency in Berlin, and my whole business was based on open source software. Part of the proprietary software was downloaded from news servers. In 2006 I realized that giving back to the OSS communities is not only a return in software development. I'm not a developer, so I decided to help with other topics as well. In 2010 I took the position of president of the German Drupal association and in 2013 some people and I founded CMS Garden e. V. as an umbrella organization for the most active Open Source Content Management Systems.

Today I'm the managing director of the company for the development of things. A Berlin-based consulting & development company that supports clients in making decisions for their digital transformation and sovereignty.
We have learned in a customer project that there is Cloudron. In terms of content, we wanted to find out whether it is possible to address the SME market with software in which the system administrator is built-in. And because Cloudron exists, we decided to stop our own investments in the product, to change the process to promote the growth of Cloudron.

Build products users really need.
Featmap is an open source user story mapping tool for product people to build, plan and communicate product backlogs.

https://www.featmap.com/
https://github.com/amborle/featmap

Hi,

from time to time there is an app request for jitsi & BigBlueButton here in the forum. I would like to throw my 2 cents into this discussion.

First: We need a turn server on port 443 and 80 to help people join conferences. There are so many stupid networks / firewalls that a turn server is mandatory. Good news: We have a turn server as an app on Cloudron. Maybe later, it's possible to configure this app.

Second: What is the background to this request? A video conference with friends? Say up to 10 people on the server? A combination of moodle and BigBlueButton for your local school? All my experience with video conferencing for larger groups brings me to the conclusion: forget these apps on Cloudron. They are hungry. In terms of RAM, CPU and bandwidth. The underlying software stack is real-time critical. Better use bare metal instead of cheap VMs. For schools, you need a cluster of BBB nodes and an upstream load balancer. Because of latency, you need a hosting provider close to most of the people using the video conference. For really huge conferences you need a dedicated 10 Gbit network. You need a lot of customisation under the hood. In short, to have a reliable infrastructure for videoconferencing, you need a lot of time to dig deep into the subject.

(My) conclusion: We have Kopano Meet as an app. Let's make this app better for our use case (having a self hosted videoconference for our family and friends meetings). We have Greenlight as a frontend for dedicated BigBlueButton infrastructure. We can use Moodle, Nextcloud and WordPress as alternative frontends for BBB servers. We have Grafana and Prometheus for the metrics of BBB servers. We can use Statping.

Good news is:

The installation process for a dedicated BBB server is painless.
https://github.com/bigbluebutton/bbb-install

Wait for the configurable turn app on Cloudron or install a coturn yourself.

1. Click yourself a dedicated bare metal. Let's say https://www.hetzner.com/de/dedicated-rootserver/ax41-nvme
2. Install ubuntu 16 on it.
3. SSH into it
4. wget -qO- https://ubuntu.bigbluebutton.org/bbb-install.sh | bash -s -- -w -v xenial-22 -s bbb.example.com -e info@example.com -c <hostname>:<secret>
5. Install Greenlight on Cloudron
6. Take the output of bbb-conf --secret and put it into .env of Greenlight.
7. Restart the Greenlight app.
8. Happy videoconferencing with many users.

For a better understanding of "What's going on?" install https://github.com/greenstatic/bigbluebutton-exporter to your BBB instance and add Grafana and Prometheus to your Cloudron.

The basic installation of a dedicated Jitsi instance is also trouble-free.
https://jitsi.github.io/handbook/docs/devops-guide/devops-guide-quickstart

Since my larger conferences rely on BigBlueButton, I didn't feel the need to dig deep into jitsi's scaling. That's why I've installed jitsi meet on cheap VMs for up to 30 users.
But if you want to go deeper into this topic, here is a link to a talk by a maintainer of jitsi meet -> https://fosdem.org/2021/schedule/event/jitsi_scaling/

I just started a new Kickstarter campaign and had to send a few thousand mails to former subscribers. Mailtrain as an option looks like early 2000's. Listmonk does the job well.

Try it out for your next newsletter. And if everything works out, we have a cool new feature in Cloudron 7.3 for bounce handling, which is currently done manually.

Today I stumbled across https://github.com/switnet-ltd/quick-jibri-installer.
The basic installation was done in less than 25 minutes. After that I have a full Jitsi meeting with recordings, storage access to recordings via Nextcloud, Grafana for metrics, Etherpad for sharing documents and YouTube streaming.
The whole stack runs on a CPX31 Hetzner Cloud Vm for around 15€/M.
I have no idea how many people at a time. I also have no idea how easy it is to upgrade the whole machine.

But my first reaction after the installation was: Wow. Well done.

Video surveillance made easy

Kerberos.io is a video surveillance solution, which works with any camera and on every Linux based machine. You can deploy a fully configured video surveillance system within a few minutes on the environment you prefer: Raspberry Pi, Docker, Kubernetes cluster. Great UX and scalability is one of its keys differentiators.

@girish ping. week is over I can't wait to try Penpot on Cloudron.

This is the official server for FindMyDevice (FMD) written in Go.

The FMD app can register an account on FMD Server.
The app can then upload its location at regular intervals.
You can also push commands to the FMD app on your device from FMD Server, e.g. to make your device ring.

https://gitlab.com/Nulide/findmydeviceserver

Remote wipe for lost phones.

Every new Cloudron user without a custom profile picture has a Gravatar request by default. This is not nice and not GDPR-compliant. If you think we (as Cloudron users) need to rely on Gravatar, leave it in the settings, but as an option. A quick workaround might be to use the navbar-brand-icon as the default user profile image (because it's mandatory to select an image when switching from gravatar).

Oh nerds. A lot of technical thoughts

Please allow me: 2 steps back.
What is the intent of the original question? Is it a general frustration with the lack of time between an app request and a Cloudron app release (like a child waiting for Christmas)? Is the intent to have more things to play with or to compete with other apps in the same category? Is there a real need for a missing "business related" app?

Are we really missing some applications? And if so, how could we get a clear overview of the missing categories? Do we really need a third or fourth web analytics or RSS reader app in the App Store? And if so, why? IMHO, the answer should not be: because we can.

How can we find out if an app from the app wish list is worth investing time to package it as a Cloudron app with all the benefits we need as a reliable app for our daily work?

To try out apps, I have a dedicated VPS for Docker containers. I usually follow the installation instructions in the Github repository and can usually try the app after a short time. My experience is: after a short time I run into some issues where I decide that reading the announcement and playing with the app contradicts my own expectations. But sometimes I like what I get. One of my recent discoveries was Gitpod. After spending more time with Gitpod, I realized that it's not a perfect fit for Cloudron because it's very dynamic (and resource hungry) when you share the new tool with your teammates. The same goes for BigBlueButton, which is on the app wish list, but it's not worth investing time in packaging.

For me, Cloudron massively reduces my personal time spent on business critical applications. Kind of a "fire and forget." To be fair, most of the time I spend on new applications is configuring the tool, documenting it, and explaining it to my teammates. Once that's done, I forget about it until the next major release comes out, and I have to invest time to get an idea of the new features. But all that crap about updates, backups, reliability .... That's why I decided to subscribe (to pay people for their work).

Have you ever looked into a random docker.hub image? Have you ever looked into updating a random image? In my opinion, sometimes things go wrong, and sometimes they don't. So I know that mission-critical apps take time to understand, plan, and maintain. With that in mind, I've decided not to put some "cool new kid" on the app wish list. I invest time to get an idea of whether the app is worth investing time to package as a Cloudron app.

Maybe we should create a new forum category "cool new kids" where we can showcase new apps we've heard about. From there, we can invest some time (as a community) to find out if the app is worth investing time to package as a business critical app (aka Cloudron app)

Form.io is a revolutionary combined Form and API platform for Serverless applications. This repository serves as the core Form and API engine for https://form.io. This system allows you to build "serverless" data management applications using a simple drag-and-drop form builder interface. These forms can then easily be embedded within your Angular.js and React applications using the <formio> HTML element.

https://github.com/formio/formio
http://codepen.io/travist/full/xVyMjo/ <- Demo

When I compare Invidious on Yunohost with Cloudron, the update frequency of the Cloudron app wins. That's why I moved you.luckow.org to my Cloudron instance. Thank you @staff

For a weekend with good music, look into

https://you.luckow.org/watch?v=pRERgcQe-fQ

MyIP - A Better IP Toolbox
https://github.com/jason5ng32/MyIP
https://ipcheck.ing/

Main Features

🖥️ View Your IPs: Detects and displays your local IP, sourcing from multiple IPv4 and IPv6 providers.
🕵️ IP Information: Presents detailed information for all IP addresses, including country, region, ASN, geographic location, and more.
🚦 Availability Check: Tests the accessibility of various websites, such as Google, GitHub, YouTube, ChatGPT, and others.
🚥 WebRTC Detection: Identifies the IP address used during WebRTC connections.
🛑 DNS Leak Test: Shows DNS endpoint data to evaluate the risk of DNS leaks when using VPNs or proxies.
🚀 Speed Test：Test your network speed with edge networks.
🚏 Proxy Rule Testing: Test the rule settings of proxy software to ensure their correctness.
🌐 Global Latency Test: Performe lantency tests on servers located in different regions around the world.
📡 MTR Test: Perform MTR tests on servers located in different regions around the world.
🔦 DNS Resolver: Performs DNS resolution of a domain name from multiple sources and obtains real-time resolution results that can be used for contamination determination.
🌗 Dark Mode: Automatically toggles between dark and daylight modes based on system settings, with an option for manual switching.
📱 Minimalist Mode: A mobile-optimized mode that shortens page length for quick access to essential information..
🔍 Search IP Information: Provides a tool for querying information about any IP address.
📲 PWA Supported：Can be added as a desktop app on your phone as well as a Chrome app on your computer.
⌨️ Keyboard Shortcuts: Supports keyboard shortcuts for all functions, press ? to view the shortcut list.
🌍 Based on availability test results, it indicates whether global internet access is currently feasible.
🇺🇸 🇨🇳 🇫🇷 English, Chinese, and French support.

https://techcrunch.com/2022/03/22/okta-january-hack-breach/

Since Cloudron 7.1.x you are able to be your own identity provider. Let's hope something like keycloak comes to the App Store and you don't have to rely on third parties anymore.