I just did the update to 9.0.9 with 17 apps and everything went very smooth from what I can tell. I really dig the UI redesign, congrats on shipping this :)!
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What's coming in Cloudron 9 -
HeyForm - open source form builderHeyForm is an open-source form builder that allows anyone to create engaging conversational forms for surveys, questionnaires, quizzes, and polls. No coding skills required.
Features
- License: GPLv3
- Versatile Inputs: Up to 40+ form fields supported
- Logic: Conditional logic and URL redirections for dynamic, adaptable forms
- Integrations: Connect with webhooks, analytics, marketing platforms, and tools like Zapier
- Analytics: Detailed analytics, including drop-off rates and completion rates
Stack
- Mongodb
- Redis
This was open sourced in the last week and posted to Hacker News today. Would be great to have another alternative to Typebot and the somewhat old behemoth LimeSurvey for creating online forms.
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Onyx on Cloudron - AI assistant connected to your company's docs, apps, and people- Main Page: https://www.onyx.app/
- Git: https://github.com/onyx-dot-app/onyx
- Licence: MIT Expat for Community Edition, custom license for Enterprise Edition
- Docker: Yes (docs here)
- Demo: n/a
- Summary: Onyx (formerly Danswer) is the AI platform connected to your company's docs, apps, and people. Onyx provides a feature rich Chat interface and plugs into any LLM of your choice. Keep knowledge and access controls sync-ed across over 40 connectors like Google Drive, Slack, Confluence, Salesforce, etc. Create custom AI agents with unique prompts, knowledge, and actions that the agents can take.
- Notes: While I'm personally a bit sceptical about the quality of results from an AI assistant that has access to all your data sources, it's still great to see an open source (with enterprise edition) tool like this, especially for small businesses. The company raised 10M in March 25 so good chances they will be around for a bit.
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Chatbot UI for ChatGPTI just checked up on this project on Github and even though I couldn't find an official statement from the maintainer, two things point towards it being abandoned.
- There has only been one commit since April 2023, which only updated the readme to
- Make visitors aware that "Chatbot UI 2.0 is out as an updated, hosted product!"
There is a Github issue that contains a tweet from the maintainer that promises open sourcing "next week" but next week would have been mid August 2023 and so far nothing has happend.
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ONCE WritebookFrom the installation notes, it seems like a free copy needs to be purchased in order to receive a shell command that will install docker and then pull the latest Writebook docker image and go through an installation process.
IMPORTANT NOTE: Do not give this install command out to anyone, or share it on the public internet. It is personalized to you, and the license is tied back to you. Your personalized purchase token can be found in the email you received after you downloaded Writebook
The way Writebook is currently distributed, I don't think makes it possible to be packaged for Cloudron unfortunately.
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Just saying hi!I couldn't find an introductions thread so will just use the off-topic forum

I re-discovered self-hosting as a service (is SHaaS a thing even
?) like Cloudron a couple of weeks ago after having first read about it a few years ago and then promptly forgotten about it again
.The re-discovery was quite exciting because I have both a personal server that I use to host my website, as well as umami and wg-easy (wireguard VPN), and I work for a small non-profit organization based in Berlin where money for software is always always always an issue and the potential of being able to reasonably self-host our software honestly fills my heart with joy.
So, looking forward to scope out the platform and engage with the community

p.s. actually one quick question, does the Cloudron install script mess with Ubuntu users? After installing from a new 'cloudron' sudo user, I can't seem to ssh into the server anymore with either root or the cloudron user ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
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Ability to go back within the installation setup wizardOk, no worries, thank you for confirming!
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Setup mailjet as mailserver does not workI was able to resolve this. I created a subaccount API key that I used for authentication before generating a secret key for the primary API key (by default Mailjet creates a key but not a secret for that key, which is a manual action). Now I just generated a secret key for the primary API key and used this instead of the subaccount key and it worked.
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Danswer - OpenSource Enterprise Question-Answering AI SystemJust wanted to bump this as the project still seems to be under active development. They now offer a community edition freely available under the MIT Expat license, as well as a paid enterprise edition with additional features. The project was also rebranded under onyx.app.
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Passbolt password managerThis app still seems to be actively developed. Might be nice to have an alternative to Vaultwarden.
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Latitude on Cloudron - Prompt engineering platform to build, evaluate, and refine your prompts with AI- Main Page: https://latitude.so/
- Git: https://github.com/latitude-dev/latitude-llm
- Licence: LGPL-3.0
- Dockerfile: Jein - docker-compose: https://github.com/latitude-dev/latitude-llm/blob/main/docker-compose.yml
- Demo: /
- Summary:
Latitude is designed for cross-functional teams, enabling collaboration between developers, product managers, and domain experts throughout the entire AI development process:- Design and version prompts collaboratively
- Test iterations in an interactive playground
- Evaluate and improve prompts systematically
- Deploy prompts as API endpoints
- Monitor performance with automatic logging
- Notes: Given that the right prompt can make a big difference in efficiency and LLM output quality, this is a quite useful tool. Though I'm not sure how easy it would be to package for Cloudron since the Docker compose file looks pretty complex with many services.
- Alternative to: Anthropic Workbench
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Wallos OIDC support@Package-Updates said in Wallos - Package Updates:
[1.12.0]
Wallos seems to support OIDC as of version 4.0. Curious as to why this isn't configured with Cloudron's OIDC server

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Migrating data to non-Cloudron environmentI'm currently doing the opposite (migrating data from non-Cloudron to Cloudron environment) but I assume it's similar in ways @girish described so just wanted to mention some caveats for people trying this:
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It's not possible (or at least not trivially possible) to migrate your users. The Vaultwarden docker image uses sqlite while Cloudron uses mysql. The org that I'm trying to migrate has less than 30 users so I'm ok with having to re-invite everyone to the new instance. But if you're trying to migrate a bigger Vaultwarden installation, you'll either have to figure out how to transfer the users between mysql and the sqlite database, or everyone has to create a new account.
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File attachments have to be copied manually. You can't just
scptheattachmentsfolder from one server to the other, this means every attachment has to be downloaded manually through the gui and then uploaded again to the new instance.
Exporting and importing the vault itself was a matter of exporting a
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How do I downgrade Cloudron subscription to free?Hi @potemkin_ai, it sounds like you want to cancel your subscription. Keep in mind that once you cancel your subscription, your apps will keep running but will not receive any more updates.
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Just saying hi!Thank you Tim! Yup, installation was already really painless and I love how active the forums are!
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Just saying hi!@jdaviescoates said in Just saying hi!:
Why did you do this?

I actually didn't really think about it too much, just a common practice to lock down the root user as @BrutalBirdie mentioned
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adduser cloudron, followed byusermod -aG sudo cloudron, that was it. But yes, it's just on a small VPS server I set up to test things, I will probably move Cloudron over to a fresh install and bigger server in a couple of weeks so it doesn't really matter, just thought I'd mention it as I thought it was unexpected.