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Does that mean it won’t be installable / usable, for the time being (until some day Cloudron‘s backup supports xattr)?

Hashicorp (now IBM) Vault (and all other Hashicorp products such as Terraform) e.g. has a similar license, the BUSL.
Other examples with similar licenses are MongoDB, Kibana, Elasticsearch, Redis…

Here’s a good overview: https://www.goodwinlaw.com/en/insights/publications/2024/09/insights-practices-moving-away-from-open-source-trends-in-licensing

Just a guess, maybe because of https://forum.cloudron.io/post/111732?

3 1/2 years ago? Sorry, no
I don’t even remember what I had for dinner yesterday….

@imc67 … or Firefox?

@swheeler78 said in OpenCloud - Package Updates:

Also, I saw in another post that you were looking for it. It's actually available as a docker container at https://github.com/opencloud-eu

This is the release thread, meaning, it’s already available.

https://github.com/roundcube/roundcubemail/issues

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@girish Thanks! After running
sudo -u yellowtent cp -aRlv /media/WD4TB/CloudronBackup/snapshot/mail /media/WD4TB/CloudronBackup/2025-11-10-230001-644/mail_v9.0.7
without error, backups went through without error, as well.
Is there something that can be done to prevent such an error?

I get cp exited with code 1 errors on a backup via rsync to a locally attached USB-HDD:

Nov 11 00:16:14 box:backuptask upload: path snapshot/mail site 59742348-c3f1-490a-aa43-3dc1f1701f47 uploaded: {"transferred":24537785098,"size":24537785098,"fileCount":96084}
Nov 11 00:16:14 box:tasks updating task 21646 with: {"percent":91.47619047619045,"message":"Uploading integrity information to snapshot/mail.backupinfo (mail)"}
Nov 11 00:16:15 box:backupupload upload completed. error: null
Nov 11 00:16:15 box:backuptask runBackupUpload: result - {"result":{"stats":{"transferred":24537785098,"size":24537785098,"fileCount":96084},"integrity":{"signature":"72d32a4ba3105b1a7290323f430f85463992ce714e059553c3995f86bd8584364cf44b481149fe4731e4c2cde6174a7b2c07e19e2c938589594c04bae387550c"}}}
Nov 11 00:16:15 box:backuptask uploadMailSnapshot: took 671.27 seconds
Nov 11 00:16:15 box:backuptask backupMailWithTag: rotating mail snapshot of 59742348-c3f1-490a-aa43-3dc1f1701f47 to 2025-11-10-230001-644/mail_v9.0.7
Nov 11 00:16:15 box:tasks updating task 21646 with: {"percent":91.47619047619045,"message":"Copying /media/WD4TB/CloudronBackup/snapshot/mail to /media/WD4TB/CloudronBackup/2025-11-10-230001-644/mail_v9.0.7"}
Nov 11 00:16:15 box:shell filesystem: cp -aRl /media/WD4TB/CloudronBackup/snapshot/mail /media/WD4TB/CloudronBackup/2025-11-10-230001-644/mail_v9.0.7
Nov 11 00:16:17 box:shell filesystem: cp -aRl /media/WD4TB/CloudronBackup/snapshot/mail /media/WD4TB/CloudronBackup/2025-11-10-230001-644/mail_v9.0.7 errored BoxError: cp exited with code 1 signal null
Nov 11 00:16:17 at ChildProcess.<anonymous> (/home/yellowtent/box/src/shell.js:82:23)
Nov 11 00:16:17 at ChildProcess.emit (node:events:519:28)
Nov 11 00:16:17 at maybeClose (node:internal/child_process:1101:16)
Nov 11 00:16:17 at ChildProcess._handle.onexit (node:internal/child_process:304:5) {
Nov 11 00:16:17 reason: 'Shell Error',
Nov 11 00:16:17 details: {},
Nov 11 00:16:17 stdout: <Buffer >,
Nov 11 00:16:17 stdoutLineCount: 0,
Nov 11 00:16:17 stderr: <Buffer 63 70 3a 20 63 61 6e 6e 6f 74 20 63 72 65 61 74 65 20 68 61 72 64 20 6c 69 6e 6b 20 27 2f 6d 65 64 69 61 2f 57 44 34 54 42 2f 43 6c 6f 75 64 72 6f 6e ... 210 more bytes>,
Nov 11 00:16:17 stderrLineCount: 1,
Nov 11 00:16:17 code: 1,
Nov 11 00:16:17 signal: null,
Nov 11 00:16:17 timedOut: false,
Nov 11 00:16:17 terminated: false
Nov 11 00:16:17 }
Nov 11 00:16:17 box:backuptask copy: copy to 2025-11-10-230001-644/mail_v9.0.7 errored. error: cp exited with code 1 signal null
Nov 11 00:16:17 box:tasks setCompleted - 21646: {"result":null,"error":{"message":"cp exited with code 1 signal null","reason":"External Error"},"percent":100}
Nov 11 00:16:17 box:tasks updating task 21646 with: {"completed":true,"result":null,"error":{"message":"cp exited with code 1 signal null","reason":"External Error"},"percent":100}
Nov 11 00:16:17 box:taskworker Task took 975.553 seconds
Nov 11 00:16:17 BoxError: cp exited with code 1 signal null
Nov 11 00:16:17 at copyInternal (/home/yellowtent/box/src/storage/filesystem.js:217:26)
Nov 11 00:16:17 at process.processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:105:5)
Nov 11 00:16:17 at async Object.copyDir (/home/yellowtent/box/src/storage/filesystem.js:235:12)
Nov 11 00:16:17 at async Object.copy (/home/yellowtent/box/src/backupformat/rsync.js:311:5)

EDIT: The error persists even after increasing RAM from 4 to 16 GB.

@joseph said in Task 'mvvolume.sh' dies from oom-kill during move of data-directory from local drive to NFS share:

I think rsync requires a server, no?

?
No, not even over SSH. There’s a daemon mode and it can work as a server but it’s not required

Is the manual setup of subdomains still required after https://forum.cloudron.io/post/114771?

@nebulon said in SnappyMail dead?:

more importantly at least one other company seems to be interested in helping out. So lets see how that goes first.

Oh, that's a nice development! Their message almost exactly coincided with me opening this topic

SnappyMail has not have had any updates for over a year now - that‘s not good for a web facing app that holds a trove of sensitive information…
The lack of updates is due to health issues of the maintainer (https://github.com/the-djmaze/snappymail/issues/1911) - yet I wonder whether this app should be delisted?

This is why we can't have nice things:
https://github.com/alam00000/bentopdf/releases/tag/v1.1.4

It recently came to my attention from a user of ours that a company was taking advantage of our open Apache 2.0 license. They repackaged BentoPDF, sold it as a proprietary product at a high price, and offered zero credit or contributions back to the community.
To be blunt, that’s not okay. It undermines the work of every single contributor and the entire spirit of the project.
That’s why we are switching BentoPDF to the AGPLv3 license.
[...]
Here’s what you need to know:

• Commercial use is still allowed. You can continue to use BentoPDF in your products and for your company.
• If you modify BentoPDF and run it as a public-facing service (like a SaaS product), you must now share your source code under the same AGPLv3 license.
  [...]

Most importantly BentoPDF is still free and open source and always will be.

I‘m following the project, but they‘re far from a usable release

The processing in the browser seems interesting, as indicated above.
Also, the „Pro“ version of Stirling worried me (maybe unjustified): https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/12683/stirling-pdf-pro-version-coming?_=1761310845378

• Title: BentoPDF: BentoPDF is a powerful, privacy-first, client-side PDF toolkit that allows you to manipulate, edit, merge, and process PDF files directly in your browser. No server-side processing is required, ensuring your files remain secure and private.

• Main Page: https://bentopdf.com/
• Git: https://github.com/alam00000/bentopdf
• Licence: Apache
• Dockerfile: Yes (as well as docker-compose)
• Demo: https://bentopdf.com/#tools-header

• Summary: BentoPDF is a powerful, privacy-first, client-side PDF toolkit that allows you to manipulate, edit, merge, and process PDF files directly in your browser. No server-side processing is required, ensuring your files remain secure and private. Alternative to Stirling PDF.

• Notes: comprehensive list of tools, permissive license, actively developed, privacy-minded and compliant, pretty .

• Alternative to / Libhunt link: Stirling PDF
• Screenshots:
  

I see this notification

but when I click "Check update" in settings, nothing happens?