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Hi @James - Many thanks for this. The changes already looks great and promising.

May I make a suggestion ? I think, in this case, Freescout approach offers a greater granularity between email notification and in-app notification, with potential for further development based on the communication channel (Mobile if ever, API ? etc..), leaving the end admin users decide what works best for them

Here is the screen I am referring to in Freescout.

If it is not too late in the development of this, maybe it might be worth considering?

If it is as easy to package as @tachy make it seem to be, it could be an easy win adding this in the Cloudron App Store - Yet I am probably overlooking/not aware of some part of the process of adding an app in the Cloudron App Store.

Thanks @luckow - I need to digest this before I can offer meaningful feedback but on the surface, this is something that formalise how I approach things too.

And here is the link for us, LazyOnes

https://opensourcemaintenancefee.org

Nice! Thanks for this.

It seem like there is a new AI player, but it is not clear to me if they are using their own model or outsourcing this with their privacy measures.

Well, it seems as Lumo answered the question by itself:

Lumo uses a combination of Proton's proprietary AI models and carefully selected third-party models. This hybrid approach allows us to leverage specialized capabilities while maintaining our commitment to privacy and security. We integrate models from trusted providers like Mistral.ai and others, but all are adapted to work within our strict privacy framework. Our team at Proton also develops custom models to ensure we can offer unique features tailored to our users' needs.

This went by me in the last couple of days:
https://proton.me/blog/lumo-ai

Here is where it is at:
https://lumo.proton.me/guest

It seem like there is a new AI player, but it is not clear to me if they are using their own model or outsourcing this with their privacy measures.

It seems very much like Kagi's assistant but European based:
https://kagi.com/assistant

However, I don't particularly appreciate the omission of Mistral.ai on their comparative table.

I am not entirely sure how the EuroStack initiative align with Cloudron underlying business approach.

Yet in principle Cloudron presents a lot of what this initiative is about and there is a lot of Cloudron apps supporting this (Nextcloud, CryptoPad, Mastodon etc...) already.

So maybe this is of interest/there is still some time to add Cloudron's name to this list:
https://eurostack.eu/250-signatories/

In turn, there is a published "EuroStack" Directory to European Cloud, Open Source, and Interoperable Digital Solutions:
https://euro-stack.com/

Proxmox VE Helper Script is a community-driven initiative that simplifies the setup of Proxmox Virtual Environment (VE) with 300+ scripts to help you manage your Proxmox VE environment.

Upon looking into the various scripts of the initiative, I noticed similar products to Cloudron, so I took the liberty to make a suggestion of adding Cloudron here too.

Hopefully this will be considered and might make it easier for some to deploy, test and adopt Cloudron.

What is EUPL?
The European Union Public Licence (EUPL) is the first open-source licence with a working value in all EU official languages. It is reasonably "share-alike/reciprocal," like the LGPL, but also covers remote distribution.

I stumble upon this and found it interesting / worth sharing.

The licensing assistant is also worth having a look to give an idea / overview / compare licenses

This might belong to off-topic so feel free to move.

It very much looks like Nextcloud.
However from what I understand: while Nextcloud is PHP based, Sync-in is TypeScript / Node.js.
Also, while v 1.1 has been made public fairly recently it seems, the development started 10 years ago according to the - currently sole - dev.

The demo is snappy for sure.

@nebulon Thanks for looking into this @nebulon . Much appreciated.

OK - Internally, this went from "looks cool" couple of days ago to "must have" a few moments ago.
Beside with my unlimited gratitude and limited packaging skills and experience, is there any other way I can help make Twenty on Cloudron happen sooner than later?

Reaching v1.0 seems like the milestone that should bring packaging this app for Cloudron into consideration no?
This, as a modern CRM, would be a great and worthy addition to Cloudron I feel.

@nebulon said in Docs - Alternative to Notion / Outline with OIDC, GDPR compliant, PDF Export (with template) etc...:

Indeed looks like they removed all the beta labels by now. Maybe I will get around looking at the package over the weekend.

This would be fantastic and much appreciated.

v3.4 is out and brings nested pages apparently: https://github.com/suitenumerique/docs/releases/tag/v3.4.0

@girish Thanks for this - This is a great workaround and fit the bill perfectly for us.

Hi James,
Thanks for the follow up.

@james said in Cannot log into admin area when authentication is done via Cloudron:

Can you please do the following:

Ssh into your server, run cloudron-support --troubleshoot just to make sure.

Done - the command returns a clean bill of health.

After that, try again.

Done - Same issue.

If the issue persists, run:

tail -f /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/box.log

and try to log in again.
If there is anything strange in the box.log after the login please provide the log.

Did that, but no relevant info appears in the box.log file. Only successful app healthcheck from what I can see.

Many thanks,

Hi James,
Thanks for looking into this.

@james said in Cannot log into admin area when authentication is done via Cloudron:

Reproduction log:

• Installed Yourls Version 1.11.1 aka latest.
• chose the option "Allow all users from this Cloudron"
• login with credentials > no issues

I had tested with the cloudron demo server too and had no problem there.

Could you please share:

• Cloudron version

Cloudron version is v8.3.2 (Ubuntu 24.04 LTS)

• username of the failing user/s

Tried multiple users - all are failing with the same symptoms
Also tried to impersonate a user with a simpler password (to potentially check password requirement mismatch between what is allowed on the app and what is allowed on Cloudron), but still encountered the same issue.
I could share the usernames in private message if needed/relevant.

• Browser used with version and perhaps extensions

Tried multiple browsers, with and without extensions and it makes no differences.

Hi,

I am having problem using Yourls when leaving user access management to Cloudron.

I have setup 3 instances of Yourls:

• Instance 1 is using the "Only allow the following users and groups" to control access to the app
• Instance 2 is using the "Allow all users from this Cloudron" to control access to the app
• Instance 3 is using its own user management

Instance 3 works fine with its own user.

However, at the moment, for instance 1 and 2, a similar problematic behavior is observed:

1. upon first attempt to login with a valid user:

• The event log of the app shows a successful login:
• after the login post, the admin page reload and and the app shows "Please log in" prompt
• the app log shows no relevant entries

2. upon any following attempts:

• after the login post, the admin login page reload and the app shows "Invalid username or password":
• the event log of the app show no entries
• the app log shows no relevant entries

In both instances 1 and 2, an app restart yields no different results.

To note but possibly unrelated, all app instances app logs are showing the similar/identical entry:
[Thu Jul 10 10:26:15.513463 2025] [core:error] [pid 48] [client 172.18.0.1:39118] AH00037: Symbolic link not allowed or link target not accessible: /app/code/index.php

Hopefully the above is clear and illustrate the current issue.
Any idea how to process further?