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@andreasdueren Thanks for this.
Simultaneous writing/syncing -> Yes, most likely
Talk with each other -> not in the first instance, but would intend to later down the line, potentially with the HPB (thanks for this guide and hints already)

What storage space/method are you using?
Do you have a rule-of-thumb ratio CPU/RAM/Bandwith-per user range that you can follow/apply?

Many thanks again

@joseph Thanks for this - I though initially that this was a "Cloudron" plugin.

Hi,

I am trying to get a sense of real usability for the use of Nextcloud in relatively large environment.
Looking at 250-300 users and 500-600 devices.

Has anyone experience running such a Nextcloud instance on Cloudron and if so would not mind sharing what it feels like (server specs, administration, storage space etc..)? what's the Good Bad and ugly? Any challenges to look to for?

Thanks in advance,

A quick addition to this, the tiniest of the things and absolutely not a showstopper, but maybe worth mentioning:
the OIDC button is not centered on the login page.

At the moment, provided that the cloudron name is a bit of a long string, this jumps on the page, as not aligned with the rest of the elements on the page. Please see here:

Maybe it is by design, but also maybe not

Do you know if there a way to have OIDC login as the only way to login into the dashboard?

Can confirm - it all works after the manual install of the plugin.
Many thanks @joseph

Thanks @joseph - This command returns correctly the Cloudron name set in the branding page.

Thanks @girish @vladimir.d - However this does not seem to be working on my instance, even with the latest package.

I am on Cloudron v8.3.1 and WordPress (Developer) 6.7.2
Is there anything to do config wise to get this enabled?

In testing this, I have notice that any change to the Cloudron Name on the Branding page trigger a re-configuration as well as a restart of the app.
Log shows:

Apr 03 13:20:23 Success: Value passed for 'openid_connect_generic_settings' option is unchanged.

despite changing the Cloudron Name.

Any hints?

Many thanks,

@girish Indeed there is via the Chatwoot module available on the website:

Suggestions for new alternatives can be submitted via the chat in the bottom right corner or via social media (currently Mastodon, Twitter and LinkedIn). At the moment, we are mostly a one-person team, making it very challenging to respond to your messages "live". It is therefore very helpful if you provide an email address so that we can get back to you, even if you are no longer on the site. Of course, all suggestions will be read and considered even if you don't provide a reply email address.

If possible, the following information would be helpful for a listing:

• Name or website URL of the product
• Category in which the product should be listed (if one exists)
• Link to the logo (optimally in SVG format and close to square)
• Link to information about the company headquarters

It may take time for us to reply and list a product. So please be patient; we will surely get back to you.

Looks do-able

@fbartels said in Where does Cloudron fit best?:

I am not sure if Cloudron fits on that website to be honest. From my understanding these are all hosted services. Cloudron on the other hand is a software that you install to run some services on it.

Thanks for this. I hesitated a little around this too. Then I read this on their "About" page:

European Alternatives also lists open source projects that can be self-hosted. The criteria just mentioned are not relevant for these projects. However, it should be relatively easy to host the product itself.

and I though it does not hurt to give it a try - Unless this also goes against Cloudron staff wishes too.

I'm attempting to get Cloudron listed onto european-alternatives.eu

While there are evidently some unrelated to Cloudron, I struggle to see which category Cloudron fit in best.
https://european-alternatives.eu/categories

What do you think?

@jadudm Thanks for your further input. It helps me forming a better understanding whatever the outcome of this discussion is.

That packaging apps in general and maybe this one in particular has a resource cost (time, money etc..) is no doubt of mine. So I am already grateful for the time you, others, everyone is spending considering this.

I am looking forward to the input of others too and @staff if possible, to see if this is a "yay or nay" situation or if there is more nuance to it.

I would also still be keen in exploring to which extend relaying information upstream might have an influence on packaging this for Cloudron.

Hi @girish - thanks for this.
Is there any way to amend the button manually for the time being, until the package is updated and released?

Many thanks,

@jadudm Thanks for taking a look - this sounds more complicated than anticipated.

Please forgive my ignorance since I am trying to understand a bit better - I though that some elements for packaging this were already available from Cloudron infrastructure:

• nginx-ingress controller -> is this anything else that nginx being part of the package? if so I am pretty sure that this has already been done in other package
• an OIDC provider -> I think that this is definitely part of the cloudron infra. Many app packages use this now
• a PostgreSQL server -> I think that this is also part of the cloudron infra. Many app packages use Cloudron PostgresSQL as a service?
• a Memcached server -> Isn't this was Redis is for ? if so, does it differs from any other package?
• a S3 bucket -> while this is not integrated in Cloudron as a service, I believe other packages have a similar approach. For example, A mastodon Cloudron app is able to point to a S3 bucket. Is this any different here?

Again, I am probably mislead somewhere here and I have no experience (yet) in packaging any app, so I am grateful for any additional info here.

Also, If one was attempting to relay info upstream to hope to have this included in Cloudron one day, what info/request/wishes would be relevant to communicate?

Many thanks again,

Hi,

It seems as the OIDC button of to access the dashboard does not follow the Cloudron branding specification.

Is this because the Cloudron Wordpress package needs to be adapted or do I need to setup this up somewhere else (I could not find anything relevant in the Wordpress OIDC plugin option, or in the docs for maybe an env. variable)?

Bonus question: is there a way to have OIDC login as the only way to login into the dashboard?

Many thanks,

Hear Hear! Thanks a lot

• v3 is out: https://github.com/suitenumerique/docs/releases/tag/v3.0.0

@scooke said in What are your numbers on Cloudron instances?:

It's just me on my SSDNodes server (vCPUs - 12, Memory - 48 GB, Disk - 720 GB), with 63 apps... I'm basically running my entire digital life off of this server + Cloudron, using mail for only my.example.com domain (and MXRoute for ALL the rest), with just 23 domains. Never had a problem with email.

Not just you @scooke - I am yet to find a better price vs performance ratio / admin ease that what SSDNodes offers.
The regularly run attractive offers.

Nothing but good things to say service-wise. The only sides I am struggling with more and more, but this is highly personal, are:

• that this is a US-based company (but offers EU-based locations amongst others)
• that I am pretty sure they do nothing particularly notable sustainability-wise

Granted however that I have not looked into this in depth for a while though.
Might soon be time to review with what is on here https://european-alternatives.eu/category/vps-virtual-private-server-hosters for example.

They are not messing around with release schedule either:

• v2.5 is out - https://github.com/suitenumerique/docs/releases/tag/v2.5.0

@joseph Thanks for the suggestion. I have added the NPM IP as a trused IP and so far, no success, the 502 error is still there.