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@girish Great

Thanks @girish for your prompt response. Above Fix is related also to “Blocked IPs & ranges"?

Because, I forgot to say, the same issue happened also to “Blocked IPs & ranges” after instance moved.

Thanks again

Hi,

I migrated a Cloudron 9.1.3 instance between two VPS.

When I migrated from VPS_A to VPS_B, network settings has not been effective.

I had an IP list in Network > Firewall > Trusted IPs & ranges

This IP list was populated, but to be effective.

To “solve” I had to save again settings. Then, the list has been applied.

Let me know if you can reproduce this issue.

@girish

I had same issue.

@necrevistonnezr Yes, this could bring in mid term to a reshoring of production plants?

@humptydumpty

@crazybrad Thanks for sharing your opinion.

There is also another aspect: could it be that Isp such as Hetzner has been offering below-cost prices in recent years to attract customers and can no longer afford to operate below cost in the market? If that were the case, the situation would be different at this point.

My main hypothesis is that with this increase, Hetzner will open or expand data centers paid for by us “loyal” users.

Over the years their service has remained the same: they haven't given anything extra - such as better customer service - to justify prices increase.

Raising prices for existing customers is a serious risk of losing them, and I agree with you when you say it's unfair.

Tomorrow morning, what will companies who base their infrastructure on Hetzner have to say to their customers?

@necrevistonnezr From my point of view as a Isp customer, changes should not be applied to long-standing users, and part of the costs should also be absorbed on to ISPs, who must be willing to reduce their gross margins.

When you say “we see,” are you speaking as an ISP? Which region are you referring to?

Edit: In 2022, several European providers raised their prices, justifying the increase due to higher gas prices. Now that gas prices have been normalized, have they lowered their prices?

@humptydumpty Let’s see in next weeks what will happens...

As I have pointed out, I believe that this increase is purely arbitrary and is simply an opportunity to generate cash flow, maybe to expand infrastructure in other countries.

Does anyone know of any other increases by other ISPs in these days?

Yesterday was for the “gas”, today is for the RAM, tomorrow will be for other reasons...

@timconsidine worst increase I had is on CCX23 from 23.99 to 31.49... equal to 7,50 euros... +31%... one third of price... A completely abnormal increase, in my opinion.

@necrevistonnezr

I think European ISP are looking each other... first OVH, then Hetzner, then Netcup... then another one...

Instead of reduce or keep low gross margin and promote reshoring, they are raising prices...

I believe the price increases they are making are because their demand is also increasing in view of reshoring in Europe...

Yes... global market, increasing RAM, scarce disks... all BS... IMHO... any excuse is good.

Edit: In terms of communication, I liked Netcup's approach best: posting on a forum I think it was a better way to communicate a “bad” news to customers...

@necrevistonnezr yes... let’s see what other providers will do... I’m monitoring Infomaniak and Netcup

@necrevistonnezr

If the market does not react to these unilateral changes, ISPs will always have the option to raise prices as they see fit...

For example, among the physical servers I have on Hetzner, that one is there, it does not use AI, and the RAM and HD were not purchased recently... why was it subject to an increase?

What would happen if I raised prices for my old customers tomorrow? They would look around... and be happy to switch...

Price increase should only apply to new customers and new orders, not old ones.

Instead, they – not only Hetzner, of course – uses existing customers to generate cash flow, liquidity, and finance themselves. Just as he said @humptydumpty

@fbartels “pricing update” ... Note used words...

so, thanks to Cloudron we will be able to migrate everything in very short time ... let’s start to find alternatives...

@humptydumpty maybe one day...

Very very bad...

Here price list: Hetzner Price Adjustment

Of course, any excuse is good to justify a price increase... Few years ago was “gas prices”.. now Ai...

They could at least avoid to increase prices to old customers or old orders...

Hi @3246 very interesting project, is interesting also to understand how do you orchestrate automations and different cases. You have all customer instances on the same machine, or you will deploy a different one via API?

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