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Problem:
the current feature set only allows to exclude apps and schedule the frequency of backups.
At the same time all apps run one after the other and the backup speed is rather slow with 3-7 MBps.
This leads to two problems:

1. apps with many and/or large files Nextcloud) take longer than the set backup rhythm (in may case 12h). As a result I have no backups for all other apps or the backup run aborts completely.
2. apps with a high change rate need many backups, but these are prevented by the apps with the large files (Nextcloud).

Featureset proposal:

1. backups should be accelerated. E.g. by running the transfer in parallel for several apps.
2. there should be database backups with separate schedules. (in many cases one could do without files, but not database changes).
3. there should be different schedules for the apps (Nextcloud once a week, Redmine every 2 hours)
4. it should be possible to exclude external volumes from the backup

I would be happy if something would improve on this topic.

Website: https://www.hanko.io
Repo: https://github.com/teamhanko/hanko
About passkey and demo: https://www.passkeys.io

Hanko is an open source user management system with a passkey-first approach that takes you on the journey beyond passwords. For better security, higher conversion rates, and happier users.

Passkeys are a new way to sign in that works completely without passwords. By using the security capabilities of your devices like fingerprint or face recognition, passkeys are more secure and are easier to use than both passwords and all current 2-factor authentication methods.
– Based on public key cryptography
– Natively supported on all major platforms
– Synchronized across your devices

the Wishlist looks promising! But is there also a timetable? If I'm not mistaken, no new app has been released in the last 12 months.

As a suggestion for the App-Store: a category "last released App" would be great.

and to mention it again: a Netdata installation could run in the OS of the Cloudron host system like on any other server, which sends metrics to a Netdata Cloudron app via a configured stream.conf. In this case, everything would remain isolated. But of course you would have to test it!

@girish said in netdata - real-time monitoring:

The add node button was disabled and it asks me to go to the cloud.

This is also part of the dark pattern. If you are logged into the cloud, you will find instructions on how to add nodes behind this button.

As far as I understand it correctly (I wouldn't call myself a professional either!), Netdata basically works as follows:
There is ONE application that can:

1. monitor its own host system and output the result on a web interface. This is the case that you obviously have on your computer now.
2. alternatively, every Netdata application can also send data (additionally or exclusively) to other nodes. This is where Netdata's advertising comes in. If you want more than an unsecured output via port 19999 on the system to be monitored, you should preferably go to the cloud and pay! But it also works without a paid cloud, just not as convincingly.
3. or the Netdata installation acts as the master (or parent node) processes the data from other nodes (child nodes). In other words, it can display, act, send alarms, etc. That would be the variant that I could very well imagine as a Cloudron app. In this case, however, the child nodes are not added via the UI of the master, but via an entry in stream.conf on the sending Netdata. As soon as the master receives data, the UI changes slightly and you can switch between different nodes.

This is explained quite clearly at https://www.netdata.cloud/blog/netdata-parents-streaming-replication/.

It is also important to know that Netdata should always run behind a proxy: https://learn.netdata.cloud/docs/netdata-agent/configuration/running-the-netdata-agent-behind-a-reverse-proxy/

I run Nextcloud via the Cloudron user administration. User integration works fine, but I can't access the cloudron groups in Nextcloud. Does anyone know a solution?

I am a big fan of Statamic CMS.
A bit similar to Grav, but better in my opinion. Based on Laravel (i.e. PHP), can be used with or without a database (flatfile first), headless/JAMstack or classic, suitable for small or very large sites, great maintenance backend for editors, well documented, easy to update ...

To illustrate the problem a little more concretely:
I have about 10 apps in my Cloudron. The most important are Gitlab, Mattermost, Redmine and Nextcloud.
Mattermost and Redmine are constantly changing and a backup that is too old can be fatal. Therefore I would like to have many backups, at least every 12 hours.
Nextcloud is different. It's all about data exchange, and the files are usually still available locally on all clients. So here it would be enough to have a backup every few days.
If the creation of backups were very fast, the story would end here. Then I could just have a backup made every few hours.
But: the Nextcloud has 200 GB (external volume included) and a backup therefore runs very long (I already had a runtime of more than 24 hours). As a consequence, no other backup of the other apps is running either. If I now deactivate the regular backup for the Nextcloud, backups before an update will take much longer!

Currently I'm doing backups with rsync. I have also tested tgz, but it wasn't faster and much more expensive (more S3 requests?)

OneTimeSecrete as selfhosting would be a perfect Cloudron addition!
Securely distribute sensitive data such as passwords etc. with your own domain. Would be great!
https://github.com/onetimesecret/onetimesecret

Hello,
I just wanted to emphasise that this topic is super important.
Now that all browsers and the big tech giants support the topic, more and more websites are offering passkey as a secure and very convenient authentication method. At the latest after Amazon offers passkey as a password replacement (https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/23/23928589/amazon-passkey-support-web-ios-shopping-mobile-app), the topic has finally arrived on the broad market.

I see two areas of interest for Cloudron here:

1. cloudron apps with keypass (as 2fa or also as 1fa)
2. app for developers such as Hanko.io=> https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/8375/hanko-io-fido2-webauthn-passwordless-login

Yes exactly, that's what I described above. Everything goes to the Netdata cloud! This is very confusing at first. However, as I said, you can still run Netdata as a master node and then carry out the analysis for many agents in one place. However, I still use the old UI for this, which can be called up with monitoringmaster-example.com/v1/. Here you then have a sidebar and can call up the individual nodes. As I want to monitor individual servers and not a connected server farm, this exactly covers my use case.

But back to the Cloudron use case.
As mentioned above, I see two possibilities:

1. the app is used to monitor the Cloudron server/hardware. That would already do a lot: Hard drive, ram etc. there is also a Docker plugin which provides various insights into the containers running on the machine.
2. the use case described above: the app is a masternode and receives the metrics from child nodes (any web server). The advantage would be that you have the monitoring in one place and do not have to use the Netdata Cloud. Compared to a self-installation, another advantage would be that I could clarify the security (htpasswd?).

@girish Even though the post has been closed for a while: do I understand correctly that git push is currently not working? Or does it work in the meantime?
Would be super useful for us.

Hello to all,

I just realised today that I can no longer log in to my Matomo installation.
Not with any of the Cloudron users.

As I only log in from time to time, this may well have been the case for some time.

I currently have the app 1.44.1 (Matomo 5.0.1) installed. Two week ago, version 1.42.0 was switched to OICD. That could be the problem.
Unfortunately there is nothing in the log. Only a 403. The error message in the login frontend is "Error: Username and/or password is not correct."
Does anyone know a solution?

Hi there,

for some time now, I have noticed that the Nextcloud GUI freezes for a few minutes. Recently I wanted to empty the trash.

The log shows the following error.

[mpm_prefork:error] [pid 1] AH00161: server reached MaxRequestWorkers setting, consider raising the MaxRequestWorkers setting
=> Healtheck error: Error: Timeout of 7000ms exceeded

The problem has already been discussed in the forum with other apps, but always without a conclusive result.

I have had an unclear problem for two days: OnlyOffice App throws error 502, not responding.
Restarting, recovery mode etc. has not helped. Logs are not revealing (to me).
Currently there is an update to package 1.18.2, but this may not be installed due to the error and cannot be triggered manually.
Does anyone have any ideas?

Nov 13 08:53:36 - [2024-11-13T07:53:36.378] [ERROR] [localhost] [docId] [userId] nodeJS - DB table "task_result" does not contain columns: created_at,password,additional, columns info: change_id,status,status_info,last_open_date,user_index,tenant,callback,baseurl,id
Nov 13 08:53:40 - 2024/11/13 07:53:40 [error] 124#124: *1 connect() failed (111: Unknown error) while connecting to upstream, client: 172.18.0.1, server: , request: "GET /healthcheck HTTP/1.1", upstream: "http://[::1]:8000/healthcheck", host: "onlyoffice.example.com"
Nov 13 08:53:40 - 2024/11/13 07:53:40 [error] 124#124: *1 connect() failed (111: Unknown error) while connecting to upstream, client: 172.18.0.1, server: , request: "GET /healthcheck HTTP/1.1", upstream: "http://127.0.0.1:8000/healthcheck", host: "onlyoffice.example.com"
Nov 13 08:53:40 - 172.18.0.1 - - [13/Nov/2024:07:53:40 +0000] "GET /healthcheck HTTP/1.1" 502 150 "-" "Mozilla (CloudronHealth)"
Nov 13 08:53:40 => Healtheck error got response status 502

My problem is probably a bit off-topic as it only relates to the desktop app (Mac). However, nobody else seems to have the problem and it has only occurred very recently and without updating the app. So I'll try my luck here!

In the desktop app, the user's online status (green tick next to the profile picture) has only been displayed as ‘offline’ for a few days now.
If the user is logged into the browser, the status is displayed correctly both in the browser and in the app. However, if the user is only logged into the app, the status is marked as offline. Manual changes to the status are only retained until the next reload/restart of the app.

Reinstalling, updating the app, clearing the cache and restarting the server have been tried. Without success.
I can't find anything in the server logs, in the app logs or in the app's Dev Console. No comparable case can be found on Google, on Github (desktop app), there is only an older issue for the Windows app.

Is it the same for others? Does anyone have an idea?

Desktop App version 5.9.0 (but also 5.2.2), server version 9.10.1., Cloudron Package Version 2.2.0

@jdaviescoates

Thank you very much.
Absolutely right, that helped me.
ONLYOFFICE Docs 8.1.3 Package Version com.onlyoffice.coudronapp@1.17.2 restore from backup works. But updates then fail.
So I installed the latest version directly from the app store, changed the secret and made the corresponding changes in Nextcloud (/settings/admin/onlyoffice). So just a whole restart. You really don't lose anything.
Now it's running again. Thanks.

Thanks for the tip, I have entered it there: https://forum.mattermost.com/t/online-offline-status-indicator-in-the-mac-app-broken/19481/3